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Post by relinquish on May 27, 2012 4:40:01 GMT -5
When there are no memories happening about 'the past', no expectations happening about 'the future', and no opinionated commentary happening about 'the present', comparing it to either 'the past' or 'the future', what remains?
Be still, and know.
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Post by andrew on May 27, 2012 5:07:21 GMT -5
When there are no memories happening about 'the past', no expectations happening about 'the future', and no opinionated commentary happening about 'the present', comparing it to either 'the past' or 'the future', what remains? Be still, and know. Its something good right? Otherwise, you wouldn't be pointing to it, right?
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Post by lolly on May 27, 2012 5:11:25 GMT -5
When there are no memories happening about 'the past', no expectations happening about 'the future', and no opinionated commentary happening about 'the present', comparing it to either 'the past' or 'the future', what remains? Be still, and know. I'm sorry the about the ill beast. I remember stuff and the future is like a hopeful thought. Sometimes that can be a pain but people can be a bit funny like that.
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Post by question on May 27, 2012 5:45:03 GMT -5
I still don't know.
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Post by relinquish on May 27, 2012 6:07:52 GMT -5
When there are no memories happening about 'the past', no expectations happening about 'the future', and no opinionated commentary happening about 'the present', comparing it to either 'the past' or 'the future', what remains? Be still, and know. Its something good right? Otherwise, you wouldn't be pointing to it, right? Outside of memory, how do you know what 'good' is?
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Post by andrew on May 27, 2012 6:13:19 GMT -5
Its something good right? Otherwise, you wouldn't be pointing to it, right? Outside of memory, how do you know what 'good' is? We don't. But you are not pointing this out because you think that what remains is bad are you? Even if its not actually good or bad, I hope that you think its good, otherwise you are just being mean by pointing people to something you think is bad!
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Post by relinquish on May 27, 2012 6:23:22 GMT -5
I still don't know. That's coz you're not being still enough. Maybe you just don't want to know. Nothin wrong with that.
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Post by relinquish on May 27, 2012 6:27:13 GMT -5
Outside of memory, how do you know what 'good' is? We don't. But you are not pointing this out because you think that what remains is bad are you? Even if its not actually good or bad, I hope that you think its good, otherwise you are just being mean by pointing people to something you think is bad! No, no. It's DEFINATELY not bad!! As a result, it could be described as good, but not without engaging memory. I'm pointing beyond that.
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Post by relinquish on May 27, 2012 6:34:31 GMT -5
And anyway, you'd need to engage memory to describe it as bad as well. Or as anything else.
I'm not requiring a conceptual answer from you.
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Post by question on May 27, 2012 6:35:48 GMT -5
I still don't know. That's coz you're not being still enough. Maybe you just don't want to know. Nothin wrong with that. I'm still not still enough? I'm sure that Stillness will teach us how to be still so that we can learn how to know.
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Post by andrew on May 27, 2012 6:44:47 GMT -5
We don't. But you are not pointing this out because you think that what remains is bad are you? Even if its not actually good or bad, I hope that you think its good, otherwise you are just being mean by pointing people to something you think is bad! No, no. It's DEFINATELY not bad!! As a result, it could be described as good, but not without engaging memory. I'm pointing beyond that. Ah, well Im glad to hear you are not pointing me to something that you think is bad hehe. I know you think you are pointing beyond good and bad, but you're not really because you would like peeps to 'get' something that you have 'got', which you think is good, right?
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Post by relinquish on May 27, 2012 6:55:14 GMT -5
That's coz you're not being still enough. Maybe you just don't want to know. Nothin wrong with that. I'm still not still enough? I'm sure that Stillness will teach us how to be still so that we can learn how to know. All I can say is that it is not contained within memory, expectation or comparing commentary of the mind. However, these things don't remove it. If you want to know, look for yourself. If you don't, well, don't.
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Post by relinquish on May 27, 2012 7:00:46 GMT -5
No, no. It's DEFINATELY not bad!! As a result, it could be described as good, but not without engaging memory. I'm pointing beyond that. Ah, well Im glad to hear you are not pointing me to something that you think is bad hehe. I know you think you are pointing beyond good and bad, but you're not really because you would like peeps to 'get' something that you have 'got', which you think is good, right? Again, it certainly aint bad! I'm just looking for 'others' to rez with, what ever that means.
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Post by andrew on May 27, 2012 7:10:30 GMT -5
Ah, well Im glad to hear you are not pointing me to something that you think is bad hehe. I know you think you are pointing beyond good and bad, but you're not really because you would like peeps to 'get' something that you have 'got', which you think is good, right? Again, it certainly aint bad! Haha. Right. I'm sure you think it is something a bit better than bad, coz you wouldn't deliberately point peeps to something you think is bad.
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Post by relinquish on May 27, 2012 7:19:18 GMT -5
Actually, thinking about it now, because what I'm pointing can not contain 'badness', I do indeed like it. It's not ACTUALLY good, but my reaction to it in retrospect (once memory is re-engaged) is to call it good.
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