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Post by silence on Feb 18, 2012 1:15:47 GMT -5
I would almost be so inclined to say that if all of this doesn't in some way somehow result in some serious laughter then one is probably still lost in la la land.
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Post by angela on Feb 18, 2012 1:23:04 GMT -5
yeah, totally. i mentioned it elsewhere on this board, but my favorite moment with adya was when i got to thank him for making us laugh.... and he goes 'well, it's the least i can do. this whole thing is a huge hilarious joke.... it just takes a while to get to the joke part' and i said 'oh, my sense of humor is still in tact' and he said 'well, that's good. it's probably your biggest ally on this journey going nowhere'.  |
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Post by quinn on Feb 18, 2012 6:51:39 GMT -5
Oops..........wrong The Outsider I'll try to come up with a quote describing the Outsider....... sdp Haha! Oops! Yeah, and Hinton's is "The Outsiders", not Outsider. Whoops. Still a really good novel for teens about stereotypes and society's pressure to be 'a certain way'. We had lots of discussions about the subtle (and not so subtle) influences on them. I looked up Wilson's book on Amazon and the write-ups and reviews are fascinating. Thanks! |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Feb 18, 2012 11:26:58 GMT -5
I'll try to come up with a quote describing the Outsider.......sdp And then there is Camus's book 'The Stranger' which was also published in certain countries as 'The Outsider'. That one has been on a few school reading lists over the years as well. I haven't read the book you mention, SDP, but it does sound very much my kind of thing. I am going to hunt it down - thanks for the tip! I'm a bit excited Barbusse (the first author Wilson discusses, wrote a novel called L'Enfer) has suggested that it is the fact that his hero sees deeper that makes him an Outsider........This is the problem of the Outsider.....disease or insight? The Outsider may be an artist, but the artist is not necessarily an Outsider. What can be said to characterize the Outsider is a sense of strangeness, of unreality. Even Keats could write (Wilson says even Keats, because he did not consider Keats an Outsider) in a letter to Browne just before he died: 'I feel as if I had died already and am now living a posthumous existence'. This is the sense of unreality that can strike out of a perfectly clear sky. .....And once a man has seen it, the world can never afterwards be quite the same straightforward place. Barbusse has shown us that the Outsider is a man who cannot live in the comfortable, insulated world of the bourgeois, accepting what he sees and touches as reality. 'He sees too much and too deep' and what he sees is essentially chaos. ....For the Outsider the world is not rational, not orderly. When he asserts his sense of anarchy in the face of the bourgeois' complacent acceptance...it is a distressing sense that truth must be told at all costs, otherwise there can be no hope for an ultimate restoration of order. Even if there seems to be no room for hope, truth must be told. The Outsider is a man who has awakened to chaos. ...................Sartre and (HG) Wells have decided that man is never free; he is simply too stupid to recognize this. Then to what precisely is it that the Outsider has an inalienable right to? The question must take us into a new field: the Outsiders who have had some insight into the nature of freedom. pgs 14,15, 26 The Outsider, Colin Wilson, 1956 (Published when he was 24). |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Feb 18, 2012 11:57:45 GMT -5
Oops..........wrong The Outsider I'll try to come up with a quote describing the Outsider....... sdp Sure. I realized I was an Outsider when I was about ten, life didn't make sense. It was only later that I started adding labels. My journey really started in 11th grade ('68/'69) in English class with a visit by Mr. Mac, a teacher/administrator. I said something (I wish I could recall what) whereby MM said, 'That sounds like something an Existentialist would say. Well, that evolved into English teacher suggesting I research Existentialism, and give a talk on it to her personally, versus writing a paper, because I had made an A+ on my last paper. MM had recommended I read the Camus book, The Stranger. Well....teacher told another teacher about what I was doing so 2nd teacher asked to hear my talk also, she did. I got a B....I didn't read the novel The Stranger, teacher saying if I had (merely) read the novel I would have gotten an A. Will add quote by Wilson: He is an Outsider because he stands for truth. That is his case. But he is weakened by his obvious abnormality, his introversion. pg 14 I was the most introverted person you will probably ever meet. I was almost terminally introverted.......and I am still, essentially, a hermit......  ..... ......  .....  ......  .....  ........ sdp |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Feb 18, 2012 13:15:16 GMT -5
Adya is a pretty on point guy I must say. He seems to also be a chick magnet for female spiritual seekers. Yes girls are like that. All one has to do is giggle their pants right off. It's so boring. I'm like take a pill, why don't you and save me a little time! freejoy, just curious, ever taken LSD? sdp |
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Post by runstill on Feb 18, 2012 14:20:58 GMT -5
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Post by nobody on Feb 18, 2012 14:58:10 GMT -5
He seems to also be a chick magnet for female spiritual seekers. That's how you know you found a good teacher. "Is he a babe magnet? No? Then he must not be legit." Enlightenment is all about hot babes and wild orgies. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Feb 18, 2012 22:10:30 GMT -5
freejoy, just curious, ever taken LSD? sdp No, never seen it. Have you? No. However, while I was in Ojai, Calif. in 1980 I met and camped (at Lake Casitas) beside a musician named Elad Ophir from Israel. He was a student of Muktananda. He had done LDS and had some on him, and I had an invitation to partake. I declined. sdp |
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Post by silence on Feb 18, 2012 22:59:09 GMT -5
He seems to also be a chick magnet for female spiritual seekers. That's how you know you found a good teacher. "Is he a babe magnet? No? Then he must not be legit." Enlightenment is all about hot babes and wild orgies. Yeah, I hear Tolle is branching out into porn. |
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Post by acewall on Feb 18, 2012 23:31:37 GMT -5
link?
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Post by exactamente on Feb 18, 2012 23:31:45 GMT -5
That's how you know you found a good teacher. "Is he a babe magnet? No? Then he must not be legit." Enlightenment is all about hot babes and wild orgies. Yeah, I hear Tolle is branching out into porn. makes sense.  |
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Post by kate on Feb 18, 2012 23:43:00 GMT -5
Am I going mad or is this thread shrinking???
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Post by kate on Feb 18, 2012 23:44:23 GMT -5
Never mind, just figured it out. As you were.
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Post by silence on Feb 18, 2012 23:46:09 GMT -5
Yeah, I hear Tolle is branching out into porn. makes sense. Skip to 1:20 where he regurgitates a golden egg hehe. I wonder if Steven has mastered that yet? |
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