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Post by exactamente on Feb 1, 2012 22:24:13 GMT -5
ok. effortlessness is going on my to do list ;D Practice effortlessness at least 10 hours/day for 3 months, then report back to us. ;D Yeah, and stay away from slave driver ashrams! ;D |
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Post by nobodyishome on Feb 1, 2012 23:05:35 GMT -5
Practice effortlessness at least 10 hours/day for 3 months, then report back to us. ;D Yeah, and stay away from slave driver ashrams! ;D
Of course the biggest slave driving ashram is right here in the US.
The ashram of the American Dream.
Very very few ever get enlighten there unless you own a hot dog cart in NYC.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Feb 1, 2012 23:34:13 GMT -5
The Way begins with having an aim. If your aim corresponds to the Way, you continue, if it doesn't, you don't. Your aim can help find and then recognize interior practices (finding and recognizing are not necessarily the same). Your aim can change (to become more aligned with the Way).
Continuing the Way, self-knowledge is necessary.
Self-knowledge begins with self-study.
Self-study begins with self-observation.
Self-observation is done with voluntary attention. You become subject.
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Post by exactamente on Feb 2, 2012 0:11:41 GMT -5
Yeah, and stay away from slave driver ashrams! ;D
Of course the biggest slave driving ashram is right here in the US.
The ashram of the American Dream.
Very very few ever get enlighten there unless you own a hot dog cart in NYC.
NBisHInteresting concept of enlightenment you've got there ;D |
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Post by mamza on Feb 2, 2012 0:41:27 GMT -5
Whenever I go to Nebraska, there's always a lot of mosquitoes because I'm always there in summer after it rains. They piss me the hell off. It always feels like my skin is crawling when I sit outside with my grandpa. After laughing at me for a while he always ends up saying: If you don't mind, it don't matter.
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Post by enigma on Feb 2, 2012 3:21:36 GMT -5
A couple of real life stories. My Dad and I never really bonded much but when it came to shooting we did. When I was 14 the first year I could go big game hunting (as long as I was with a adult hunter) they had the annual turkey shoot. This is the time a week before deer season opens before thanksgiving that the hunters would go up and shoot the guns at a target. The one that got the closest to the bulls eye won a turkey. I remember so many men getting with such intense looks in their eyes. They held their rifle with one eye shut and hope for the best. I being just 14 went up with a smile on my face and shot. I really did not care about the outcome I was just happy to be there. Well at first the spotter thought I missed the target and on closer examination I knocked out the bull! The best tasting Turkey I ever had. The second time was learning to trap shoot. I was always a good shot but for some reason I could not hit a clay pigeon for the life of me. I tried so hard and another shooter came to me and said when you have the target on your sights just jerk your gun about a inch in front and fire. Bingo that was what was missing. After that I was shooting some perfect scores 25 out of 25. It still took attention to win the turkey and to hit the clay's. My point being effortless does not mean being attentiveness. NBisH Right, in our duck satsang today, Marie and I were talking about empty alertness. A high state of alert attention without closing down (constricting) the attention on any thought or object. It may not work well for target shooting but it will keep you out of the 'river'. |
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Post by enigma on Feb 2, 2012 3:23:03 GMT -5
Yeah and that too..
Of course the biggest slave driving ashram is right here in the US.
The ashram of the American Dream.
Very very few ever get enlighten there unless you own a hot dog cart in NYC.
NBisH Interesting concept of enlightenment you've got there ;D Make me one with everything? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2012 11:04:02 GMT -5
Chance the Gardener: This is just like television, only you can see much further
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Post by nobodyishome on Feb 2, 2012 11:11:09 GMT -5
Interesting concept of enlightenment you've got there ;D Make me one with everything? ;D |
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Post by nobodyishome on Feb 2, 2012 11:13:24 GMT -5
Chance the Gardener: This is just like television, only you can see much further
NBisH
Great moving btw Being There |
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Post by silence on Feb 2, 2012 13:11:42 GMT -5
If you are interested, let me know, once you have gotten to the point of being able to confidently reside in the emptyness, there is a further, a next "stage" of "progression" if you will. Awareness of the awareness to the 12th power! |
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Post by enigma on Feb 2, 2012 14:03:51 GMT -5
If you are interested, let me know, once you have gotten to the point of being able to confidently reside in the emptyness, there is a further, a next "stage" of "progression" if you will. Awareness of the awareness to the 12th power! To infinity and beyond! |
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Post by enigma on Feb 2, 2012 18:07:14 GMT -5
Right, in our duck satsang today, Marie and I were talking about empty alertness. A high state of alert attention without closing down (constricting) the attention on any thought or object. It may not work well for target shooting but it will keep you out of the 'river'. This is a good system, I teach you, you make fun of what I say, and then teach it to Marie a few days or weeks later....might go faster if you just had Marie send me an email or PM directly though ;-) Of course, you will have to keep relaying stuff to the ducks in your area yourself.... Quote of the day: "It's amazing what you can accomplish if you don't care who gets credit for it." Former chief researcher at Xerox Labs That sounds "'pompous', 'dismissive', 'condescending', 'patronizing". Hehe What I remember making fun of is the awareness of the awareness of the awareness, unless you're talking about another time I made fun of you. You have a tendency to spot all sorts of giraffes and derive all sorts of conclusions. You'll probly also say the same thing about my comments about practices, because you think you're hearing that I dismiss all forms of practice, and then you hear me talking about a practice and you figure I came to a new realization about your rightness and that you learned me something and then decide that you're satisfied that your teaching methods are so effective. Your thinking reminds me of something Andrew often does; misperceiving, then concluding, concluding, concluding until you have it all figured out, but it's just lipstick on a giraffe. |
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Post by exactamente on Feb 2, 2012 20:21:34 GMT -5
That sounds "'pompous', 'dismissive', 'condescending', 'patronizing". Hehe What I remember making fun of is the awareness of the awareness of the awareness, unless you're talking about another time I made fun of you. You have a tendency to spot all sorts of giraffes and derive all sorts of conclusions. You'll probly also say the same thing about my comments about practices, because you think you're hearing that I dismiss all forms of practice, and then you hear me talking about a practice and you figure I came to a new realization about your rightness and that you learned me something and then decide that you're satisfied that your teaching methods are so effective. Your thinking reminds me of something Andrew often does; misperceiving, then concluding, concluding, concluding until you have it all figured out, but it's just lipstick on a giraffe. Wow, you invented about 14 giraffes about me in one post just to say I like putting lipstick on giraffes.... Wait, that makes 15 lol 15 giraffes in one paragraph, not bad... I think you misread enigma's post. What he was trying to say was that Andrew is a giraffe who likes to dress up a little, that's all.  |
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Post by enigma on Feb 2, 2012 21:07:42 GMT -5
Wow, you invented about 14 giraffes about me in one post just to say I like putting lipstick on giraffes.... Wait, that makes 15 lol 15 giraffes in one paragraph, not bad... I think you misread enigma's post. What he was trying to say was that Andrew is a giraffe who likes to dress up a little, that's all. Sure, if somebody want to be a Furry that's okay with me. Besides, some shades of lipstick look pretty good on giraffes. ;D |
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