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Post by Beingist on Jan 20, 2012 17:59:24 GMT -5
Forget truth, remember essential awareness....once you have had a taste of essential awareness, make it your highest priority to value it more than anything else in life...do whatever life activities you would normally do, but stay centered in perfect crystalline awareness...while in every activity, value your awareness more than the activity or the desired outcome of the activity This is the secret of the great sages that do not come and go from awareness into mind abiding. Forget truth, value awareness above all else, make it more valuable to you in every moment than everything else while living your life. Truth, Awareness, Beingness, Love, THIS, What is, God, whatever. All the same, eh.
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Post by andrew on Jan 20, 2012 17:59:40 GMT -5
Zaklee. I'm pointing away from whatever you are thinking I'm pointing to. World Peace is kinda like a World of Unconditional Love... It won't happen as long as you think there's a World out there that needs Peace or Unconditional Love. Yes they are the same thing (world peace and world of unconditional love) In my opinion it will happen when we have lost interest in experiencing duality. And it could happen in waves. There could even be 2 earths in 2 different realities.
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Post by enigma on Jan 20, 2012 18:06:59 GMT -5
Word games. How fun! That wasnt a word game. I meant it. For as long as the need to attach is present, I think attaching to releasing attachment is helpful. Being willing to release attachment is the same as releasing attachment. Attaching to the idea of releasing attachment is gerbil spinning at it's finest.
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Post by enigma on Jan 20, 2012 18:09:11 GMT -5
Zaklee. I'm pointing away from whatever you are thinking I'm pointing to. World Peace is kinda like a World of Unconditional Love... It won't happen as long as you think there's a World out there that needs Peace or Unconditional Love. Right, those are conditions.
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Post by andrew on Jan 20, 2012 18:26:16 GMT -5
That wasnt a word game. I meant it. For as long as the need to attach is present, I think attaching to releasing attachment is helpful. Being willing to release attachment is the same as releasing attachment. Attaching to the idea of releasing attachment is gerbil spinning at it's finest. Whereas I would say its the most direct route. But then I dont think the willingness to release attachment is the SAME as releasing attachment. I think we can be willing but too frightened to release. I think we can be willing but not know what to release. I think we can be willing but not know how to release.
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Post by enigma on Jan 20, 2012 20:05:58 GMT -5
Being willing to release attachment is the same as releasing attachment. Attaching to the idea of releasing attachment is gerbil spinning at it's finest. Whereas I would say its the most direct route. But then I dont think the willingness to release attachment is the SAME as releasing attachment. I think we can be willing but too frightened to release. Then we're not willing. Then what could it mean to be willing to release it? Confusion about how to let go of what one is holding onto, is a mind game used to avoid the fact that there isn't the willingness to let go.
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Post by Beingist on Jan 20, 2012 20:11:37 GMT -5
Whereas I would say its the most direct route. But then I dont think the willingness to release attachment is the SAME as releasing attachment. I think we can be willing but too frightened to release. Then we're not willing. Then what could it mean to be willing to release it? Confusion about how to let go of what one is holding onto, is a mind game used to avoid the fact that there isn't the willingness to let go. Hold on. Where does volition fit into this?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2012 20:14:45 GMT -5
Well, to be perfectly honest, I used to think that 'Truth at all costs' meant that I would pursue Truth, at all costs. However, as I stop to consider it now, such would obviously indicate an attachment, which I would admit, if I had one. However, I don't see that, currently, so it would probably be more accurate to say that Truth is now pursuing me. as lightmystic said: "Awakening is coming for you. You're screwed."
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Post by Beingist on Jan 20, 2012 20:22:27 GMT -5
"Awakening is coming for you. You're screwed." ;D ;D ;D That one deserves an 'exalt', if anything ever did.
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Post by enigma on Jan 20, 2012 20:28:41 GMT -5
Then we're not willing. Then what could it mean to be willing to release it? Confusion about how to let go of what one is holding onto, is a mind game used to avoid the fact that there isn't the willingness to let go. Hold on. Where does volition fit into this? Nowhere, man.
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Post by Beingist on Jan 20, 2012 20:39:20 GMT -5
Hold on. Where does volition fit into this? Nowhere, man. Oh, great, there it goes again! He's a real nowhere man Sitting in his nowhere land... (Otherwise, I got it--willingness and volition: two separate things )
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Post by angela on Jan 20, 2012 20:53:26 GMT -5
he's as blind as he can be just sees what he wants to see
((heehee. i like this game!))
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Post by enigma on Jan 20, 2012 20:59:14 GMT -5
Nowhere, man. Oh, great, there it goes again! He's a real nowhere man Sitting in his nowhere land... (Otherwise, I got it--willingness and volition: two separate things ) Yes, willingness is either present or not. Nobody 'wills' it to be present, though as you well know, life has a way of bringing one to one's knees.
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Post by nobodyishome on Jan 20, 2012 21:12:53 GMT -5
It's a strange cat. Willingness and volition. We could say do we have free will or not? Ultimately my own revealing shows we don't have free will. Having said that when we place attention or notice something most feel that our will is involved in the placement of attention or in the eagerness to notice? If someone makes a comment "I find life works better when I employ noticing then it leaves the question or option to not notice since the person used the word (better). So do we really have a choice to notice or not? To make a choice shows we have free will or not? One could say you were destined to make that choice before you made it. This type of conversation can go on for a long time. NBisH
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Post by enigma on Jan 20, 2012 21:34:26 GMT -5
It's a strange cat. Willingness and volition. We could say do we have free will or not? Ultimately my own revealing shows we don't have free will. Having said that when we place attention or notice something most feel that our will is involved in the placement of attention or in the eagerness to notice? If someone makes a comment "I find life works better when I employ noticing then it leaves the question or option to not notice since the person used the word (better). So do we really have a choice to notice or not? To make a choice shows we have free will or not? One could say you were destined to make that choice before you made it. This type of conversation can go on for a long time. NBisH If your own revealing shows there is no free will, there's no need for conversation.
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