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Post by esponja on Feb 29, 2012 18:20:35 GMT -5
Thanks B, listened to a bit last night, although fell asleep, was inspiring.
Question, lmfao...you are v funny! I had a primary school trip to Shrewsbury once!
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Post by silence on Mar 2, 2012 0:30:31 GMT -5
adya is da bomb, in my opinion. hands down, my favorite teacher. he's the first person in 30+ years of life who i felt enough clarity toward and for that i could offer up my heart to him and feel, yes, this is my teacher. he's as clear as a window without any glass. he gives you nothing to hold onto. plus, he's hilarious. i have a ton of his satsang (like 11GB, sheesh!) and would be honored to share some files with anyone interested. i have a hard time sending them over the internet, but can always share a few that way. i'd also be willing to share them old school style (you mail me a USB and i'll fill it with stuff).... anyway. adya is amazingly clear and kind and funny. good stuff all around. oh, and he does a live internet radio broadcast, usually once or twice a month. check his website for the details on the calendar. it's a nice treat, satsang alone in my room in my slippers.  I caught a small portion of his live broadcast today. I think I read you mentioning that he has some type of palsy in another thread. It was definitely apparent in this broadcast. He was still as clear as ever though. |
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Post by anandakosha on May 1, 2012 2:48:37 GMT -5
Adhyshanti is a cool geezer - i feel he really talks out of compassion and is very sincere abt his teaching, but I also think that he could have matured his practiced a bit more.... he feels "weak" in many places, like he is not so clear about certain things...
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Post by waddicalwabbit on May 5, 2012 13:40:25 GMT -5
Generally at Adya's satasangs, the attendees are asked to meditate, Adya comes in and joins the meditation while everyone's eyes are closed, when the satsang is over, people are asked to stay in their chairs for a few minutes. Adya walks out and doesn't look back. There is a desire in him to NOT be the focus of people's adoration. I think he's experienced what that's like. He used to approve certain people to go out and teach. He doesn't do that anymore. He was given his name Adyashanti by his teacher. He spent 15 years in Zen and now doesn't claim any lineage, frequently quoting Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism or whatever serves his purpose. I like his clarity and his ability to meet people where they are whether they are going through the process of disassociation with ego ID or wondering why there is evil in the world. In other words, he has a pretty good road map and no apparent judgement of where people are at.
His main teaching is 'Sit down, shut up and figure it out for yourself', that if something is not self verified, it is useless. His teaching style has been occasionally helpful for me AND i like to listen to Papaji, Mooji and others as well.
I do wonder about someone who can spend hours and hours talking about this stuff. Seems like he enjoys it, is called to do it. I see nothing wrong with that.
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Post by farmer on Aug 14, 2012 14:50:30 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 20:31:28 GMT -5
Free book download -- it's not too long. The Way to Liberation. www.adyashanti.org/index.php?file=productdetail&iprod_id=533I've been reading it. It is a pretty boiled down version of an Adyashanti prescription. One of the first things he advises is becoming very clear with one's aspiration with regards to this whole seeking/spiritual biz. Also advised are a trio of meditation, inquiry and contemplation. Alot of the stuff we talk about here has a parallel feel to what he's talking about. His Open Gate Sangha seems to be using this as a sort of study guide for discussion groups around the country. It might be something we could do here, though it would be rogue and blasphemous, no doubt.  BTW, adyashanti strikes me as being very welcome to blasphemy, even if he is the one burned in effigy. |
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Post by quinn on Jan 6, 2013 8:41:01 GMT -5
This sounds good to me, Max. I downloaded the book and will do some reading.
I particularly liked these from the intro:
"The Reality that these teachings are pointing toward is not hidden, or secret, or far away. You cannot earn it, deserve it, or figure it out. At this very moment, Reality and completeness are in plain sight. In fact, the only thing there is to see, hear, smell, taste, touch, or feel, is Reality, or God if you like. Absolute completeness surrounds you wherever you go. So there is really no reason to bother yourself about it, except for the fact that we humans have long ago deceived ourselves into such a confined tangle of confusion and disarray that we scarcely even consider, much less experience for ourselves, the divinity within and all around us.
The Way of Liberation is a call to action; it is something you do. It is a doing that will undo you absolutely. If you do not do the teaching, if you do not study and apply it fearlessly, it cannot effect any transformation. The Way of Liberation is not a belief system; it is something to be put into practice. In this sense it is entirely practical."
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2013 13:17:57 GMT -5
Nice to hear from you quinn! I've been imagining you are completely in the Flow this whole time. (How could you not be?)
I'm going to read WOL through again.
I'm trying to get clear with the aspiration thing. For me it's something like Be an instrument of Thy Peace. Sort of like if John Coltrane was God and I was his saxophone. The only thing is that I don't believe in God, so who's blowing the horn? But the point is, no belief is true, and exposing those beliefs to natural erosion upon scrutiny makes the instrument sound better. Adya's recipe is a way of practicing scales. Still working on clarifying it.
What is your aspiration?
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Post by quinn on Jan 6, 2013 16:33:41 GMT -5
Flow? I don't really know. Mostly just doing the next thing that needed to be done - which was a lot. So there was some ease in that. But I don't really like the holidays, I didn't at all feel like doing all the hoopla that's expected. Got real sick. Am trying to quit smoking. None of it feels very flow-like, but I guess it sort of is.
Got some real interesting dialog going on in my head when I get an urge to smoke. It's like living with an invisible crack-head. ;D
Aspirations, eh? I guess it's good to be clear on that. Sometimes it feels almost painful to start reflecting on myself - so to come up with an answer for that is tough.
All I can think of is negatives. I don't want to run away or be in denial. I don't want to twist everything up that I see or experience - don't want to distort what's actually going on. I want to be true - speak and live what I believe is true, but I also think kindness is important. Sometimes those are mutually exclusive. Lately I seem to be unintentionally insulting people a lot!
Aspiring to be John Coltrane's sax sounds pretty sexy, but too vague for me to get a handle on. I'm with you on the 'who's blowing the horn?' part, so that maybe makes it even more vague. Is it ease that you want? An end to the struggle?
I'm only on the Intro to Way of Liberation, but I'll keep at it when I can. Good stuff.
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Post by silver on Jan 6, 2013 18:58:40 GMT -5
Free book download -- it's not too long. The Way to Liberation. www.adyashanti.org/index.php?file=productdetail&iprod_id=533I've been reading it. It is a pretty boiled down version of an Adyashanti prescription. One of the first things he advises is becoming very clear with one's aspiration with regards to this whole seeking/spiritual biz. Also advised are a trio of meditation, inquiry and contemplation. Hey, it's free - I'm only to page 9 (70 altogether) - one nice thing about it is it's large print, fyi. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2013 11:30:36 GMT -5
How You Treat Others
Spiritual people often want unconditional support and understanding from their friends, family, and mates, but all too often seem blind to their own shortcomings when it comes to the amount of unconditional support and understanding that they give to others. I have seen many spiritual people become obsessed with how unspiritual others are and assume an arrogant and superior attitude while completely missing the fact that they themselves are not nearly as spiritually enlightened as they would like to think they are.
Enlightenment can be measured by how compassionately and wisely you interact with others—with all others, not just those who support you in the way that you want. How you interact with those who do not support you shows how enlightened you really are.
As long as you perceive that anyone is holding you back, you have not taken full responsibility for your own liberation. Liberation means that you stand free of making demands on others and life to make you happy. When you discover yourself to be nothing but Freedom, you stop setting up conditions and requirements that need to be satisfied in order for you to be happy.
It is in the absolute surrender of all conditions and requirements that Liberation is discovered to be who and what you are. Then the love and wisdom that flows out of you has a liberating effect on others. The biggest challenge for most spiritual seekers is to surrender their self importance, and see the emptiness of their own personal story. It is your personal story that you need to awaken from in order to be free.
To give up being either ignorant or enlightened is the mark of liberation and allows you to treat others as your Self. What I am describing is the birth of true Love.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2013 12:12:33 GMT -5
Flow? I don't really know. Mostly just doing the next thing that needed to be done - which was a lot. So there was some ease in that. But I don't really like the holidays, I didn't at all feel like doing all the hoopla that's expected. Got real sick. Am trying to quit smoking. None of it feels very flow-like, but I guess it sort of is. Got some real interesting dialog going on in my head when I get an urge to smoke. It's like living with an invisible crack-head. ;D Aspirations, eh? I guess it's good to be clear on that. Sometimes it feels almost painful to start reflecting on myself - so to come up with an answer for that is tough. All I can think of is negatives. I don't want to run away or be in denial. I don't want to twist everything up that I see or experience - don't want to distort what's actually going on. I want to be true - speak and live what I believe is true, but I also think kindness is important. Sometimes those are mutually exclusive. Lately I seem to be unintentionally insulting people a lot! Aspiring to be John Coltrane's sax sounds pretty sexy, but too vague for me to get a handle on. I'm with you on the 'who's blowing the horn?' part, so that maybe makes it even more vague. Is it ease that you want? An end to the struggle? I'm only on the Intro to Way of Liberation, but I'll keep at it when I can. Good stuff. good luck with letting that habit go -- I've read that nicotine is worse than heroin. Methinks neither is as addictive as thinking. I'm a total think-junkie. Breaking that habit is one of my aspirations, come to think of it. The saxophone thing is more akin to what you were saying. Clearing out addiction to thinking, various beliefs and delusions and whatever else obscures being completely plugged into what is happening. Being a perfectly played instrument happens when completely plugged in. No one's trying to play it, actually. Just ____. At least that's what I imagine. And I can see how that might mean unintentional insults from time to time too. Jesus did his whole overturning money changer tables rampage -- I'm sure the dudes working those tables weren't feeling a whole lot of loving kindness at the moment. Also there is the iconic angry buddha. Apparently awakened ones let the fury fly at appropriate moments. |
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Post by quinn on Jan 8, 2013 13:45:01 GMT -5
good luck with letting that habit go -- I've read that nicotine is worse than heroin. Methinks neither is as addictive as thinking. I'm a total think-junkie. Breaking that habit is one of my aspirations, come to think of it. The saxophone thing is more akin to what you were saying. Clearing out addiction to thinking, various beliefs and delusions and whatever else obscures being completely plugged into what is happening. Being a perfectly played instrument happens when completely plugged in. No one's trying to play it, actually. Just ____. At least that's what I imagine. And I can see how that might mean unintentional insults from time to time too. Jesus did his whole overturning money changer tables rampage -- I'm sure the dudes working those tables weren't feeling a whole lot of loving kindness at the moment. Also there is the iconic angry buddha. Apparently awakened ones let the fury fly at appropriate moments. I'd have to agree with you about the thinking-habit. I've begun to get very suspicious of most of my thoughts, though. Not practical thoughts of course - just those 'commentary' type thoughts. How true are they really? And, more to the point, how useful are they? How many times has the thought about a problem actually been the problem. Without the thought, where is the problem? This is kind of interesting - I'm seeing a parallel with the smoking habit. With both, there are some underlying assumptions that we buy into. With smoking, it's "it feels good" or "I just like it", when the reality is that the nicotine creates a negative-state that only a cigarette will lift you out of. Which is a pretty twisted way of feeling good. With thinking, for me anyway, the underlying assumption is that thinking is useful, maybe even crucial to survival. How true is that really? Some of it certainly is useful, but there's an awful lot that is not. Not only useless, but harmful. Well off the subject of aspirations here Are you feeling real clear on your current spiritual aspirations? I think I need to go a bit deeper, take some time with it. (Don't mean to make this just a conversation between Max and me - anyone wants to jump in, that's a good thing!) |
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Post by silver on Jan 8, 2013 13:58:33 GMT -5
good luck with letting that habit go -- I've read that nicotine is worse than heroin. Methinks neither is as addictive as thinking. I'm a total think-junkie. Breaking that habit is one of my aspirations, come to think of it. The saxophone thing is more akin to what you were saying. Clearing out addiction to thinking, various beliefs and delusions and whatever else obscures being completely plugged into what is happening. Being a perfectly played instrument happens when completely plugged in. No one's trying to play it, actually. Just ____. At least that's what I imagine. And I can see how that might mean unintentional insults from time to time too. Jesus did his whole overturning money changer tables rampage -- I'm sure the dudes working those tables weren't feeling a whole lot of loving kindness at the moment. Also there is the iconic angry buddha. Apparently awakened ones let the fury fly at appropriate moments. I'd have to agree with you about the thinking-habit. I've begun to get very suspicious of most of my thoughts, though. Not practical thoughts of course - just those 'commentary' type thoughts. How true are they really? And, more to the point, how useful are they? How many times has the thought about a problem actually been the problem. Without the thought, where is the problem? This is kind of interesting - I'm seeing a parallel with the smoking habit. With both, there are some underlying assumptions that we buy into. With smoking, it's "it feels good" or "I just like it", when the reality is that the nicotine creates a negative-state that only a cigarette will lift you out of. Which is a pretty twisted way of feeling good. With thinking, for me anyway, the underlying assumption is that thinking is useful, maybe even crucial to survival. How true is that really? Some of it certainly is useful, but there's an awful lot that is not. Not only useless, but harmful. Well off the subject of aspirations here Are you feeling real clear on your current spiritual aspirations? I think I need to go a bit deeper, take some time with it. (Don't mean to make this just a conversation between Max and me - anyone wants to jump in, that's a good thing!) Hi Quinn. Miss seein' ya about. Caffeine/coffee is almost as bad - I've known nurses to down pots of coffee during their shifts - I only down a big cup of instant a day, most of the time, and I still 'need' that 1 cup. Without it, you can still get those caffeine withdrawal headaches and they're not pretty at all. I don't think it's nearly as dangerous as nicotine and I wish you the best outcome asap with quitting smoking. |
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Post by laughter on Jan 8, 2013 14:01:15 GMT -5
I'd have to agree with you about the thinking-habit. I've begun to get very suspicious of most of my thoughts, though. Not practical thoughts of course - just those 'commentary' type thoughts. How true are they really? And, more to the point, how useful are they? How many times has the thought about a problem actually been the problem. Without the thought, where is the problem? Quinn, FWIW, in my experience, you're following Tolle's prescription exactly as he intended it to be followed. |
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BTW, adyashanti strikes me as being very welcome to blasphemy, even if he is the one burned in effigy.
