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Post by Beingist on Dec 22, 2011 23:21:05 GMT -5
In the past 5 years, I've been doing a lot of reading. I read ACIM, and associated literature; I've read both Tolle books, TPON several times; I read I AM THAT twice; I've read 3 of David R. Hawkins' books, two of those, twice; I've read online stuff of Ramana; and I've watched online videos of all of these that I could. After all this reading, I came to understand that fundamentally, they all pointed to the same thing: Being, Consciousness, God, whatever you want to call it. It was like all these fingers pointing to the same moon. Once I realized that I (or, rather, my Being) was the moon, I stopped reading, and followed Niz's advice to simply put all my attention into the "sense I am". I can say confidently that my consciousness has been expanding wonderfully ever since, but at the same time, I have noticed that such expansion seems to highlight a fundamental set of spiritual principles. Yet, because I have been intent on focusing on the "sense I am", I have lacked both the interest and capacity to focus on those principles. After all, they're just thoughts, no? Then along comes a pm by Chris (silence), suggesting that I check out Adyashanti. "Holy cow", I thought, "here are the principles!" I haven't read any of his books, yet, but have been watching him a ton, (unfortunately, I missed a satsang he gave right down the street from me a couple of weeks ago  ). He's on YouTube with the principles at: www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgtOL9kl7fc , and his taught applications are at: www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlIuOOFBe0cIn a nutshell, and for anyone not willing to sit through the videos, his teachings are thus: Principles1. Suffering is caused by identification with egoic consciousness 2. Ego is a fiction created in the mind by circular patterns of thinking based on separation 3. Freedom from egoic consciousness comes about by awakening to one's true nature as conscious spirit 4. All ego values (conflict, etc) are surrendered to awakened values inherent in conscious spirit Application1. Be still: allow everything to be just as it is 2. Inquiry: "Who or What am I?" 3. Conscious living: discover awakened values None of this is new to anyone here, I'm sure, so he may appear to some of you all as nothing really new. But in nothing I have read, have I known anyone to boil everything down to such a concise set of principles and the application of those principles. I am, however, interested to know what anyone else thinks of this guy. |
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Post by nobody on Dec 23, 2011 9:21:52 GMT -5
whoa. someone sniped tathagata with a -1, and it wasn't me. hehe.
hey beingist. i love adya. i found his "true meditation" cd to be pretty awesome.
welcome to the board by the way.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2011 11:19:26 GMT -5
i like him -- fun to listen to. warns of spiritual ego alot, which is good, imo.
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Post by angela on Dec 23, 2011 11:31:25 GMT -5
adya is da bomb, in my opinion. hands down, my favorite teacher. he's the first person in 30+ years of life who i felt enough clarity toward and for that i could offer up my heart to him and feel, yes, this is my teacher. he's as clear as a window without any glass. he gives you nothing to hold onto. plus, he's hilarious. i have a ton of his satsang (like 11GB, sheesh!) and would be honored to share some files with anyone interested. i have a hard time sending them over the internet, but can always share a few that way. i'd also be willing to share them old school style (you mail me a USB and i'll fill it with stuff).... anyway. adya is amazingly clear and kind and funny. good stuff all around. oh, and he does a live internet radio broadcast, usually once or twice a month. check his website for the details on the calendar. it's a nice treat, satsang alone in my room in my slippers.  |
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Post by randomguy on Dec 28, 2011 10:09:33 GMT -5
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Post by guiyom on Jan 4, 2012 19:01:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2012 19:49:01 GMT -5
well my rudimentary experience with the 4NT and Adya sees some diff. He puts more emphasis on self inquiry. He overlaps in this way with the advaita crowd more explicitly than a lot of the buddhists out there -- i can't recall a single time in my experience in various dharma talks and readings in Zen and Vipassana traditions where there was coaching to contemplate 'Who or What am I' as Adyashanti does. Annata comes up in buddhist traditions but I didn't suss it out in the 4NT.
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Post by Beingist on Jan 5, 2012 14:08:08 GMT -5
Well, he does have a background in Zen, so that one can draw parallels between his teaching and Buddhism is no surprise. |
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Post by tomas on Jan 6, 2012 13:14:05 GMT -5
Living in the Bay Area, where Adya is based, I've attended 10-15 of his satsangs, a 5 day retreat, and read all of his books. He's great, he's funny, he's articulate, and attractive.
About a year ago, he did an afternoon satsang with Hameed Ali, from Diamond Heart. It was like Dad (Hameed) with son (Adya). Adya's all "just wake up", while Hameed is "Let's inquire into what's underneath".
Adya seems to have star quality, being an athlete, a California boy, the kinda dude you could meet on the beach, and hang with, and have a mind expanding conversation with. In my judgment, he has a quality of being a spiritual celebrity, and an ego based "student - teacher" shadow (from both himself and those who follow him). I finally quit going to see him last year, after I realized the real search was within, rather than going outside and chasing a guru.
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Post by Beingist on Jan 6, 2012 18:20:16 GMT -5
Living in the Bay Area, where Adya is based, I've attended 10-15 of his satsangs, a 5 day retreat, and read all of his books. He's great, he's funny, he's articulate, and attractive. About a year ago, he did an afternoon satsang with Hameed Ali, from Diamond Heart. It was like Dad (Hameed) with son (Adya). Adya's all "just wake up", while Hameed is "Let's inquire into what's underneath". Adya seems to have star quality, being an athlete, a California boy, the kinda dude you could meet on the beach, and hang with, and have a mind expanding conversation with. In my judgment, he has a quality of being a spiritual celebrity, and an ego based "student - teacher" shadow (from both himself and those who follow him). I finally quit going to see him last year, after I realized the real search was within, rather than going outside and chasing a guru. Glad you pointed this out, Tomas. Even Adya would likely agree with this. |
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Post by question on Jan 6, 2012 19:37:48 GMT -5
Agreed. Adya could be a superstar. Mooji is in the same league. Bentinho Massaro is also a great candidate if he does it correctly. There is a huge gap in the market and it's going to get filled. The fact that a guy like Tolle made it is an indicator that the market is desperate for them.
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Post by nobodyishome on Jan 7, 2012 10:50:35 GMT -5
Agreed. Adya could be a superstar. Mooji is in the same league. Bentinho Massaro is also a great candidate if he does it correctly. There is a huge gap in the market and it's going to get filled. The fact that a guy like Tolle made it is an indicator that the market is desperate for them.
Interesting point. I sat with Adya and Mooji and a host of others.
My own experiences were always the same. All of them talk the same lingo. They say the same things albeit some are more efficient with the delivery.
It was only when I went to India and spent time with a unknown Indian teacher that taught in silence that I was able to make real progress. I loved it! He would simply sit with me and tell me to go within, go deep and I did. The relief(mental) and result of this simple way has no words of understanding.
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Post by quinn on Jan 7, 2012 16:19:23 GMT -5
In my judgment, he has a quality of being a spiritual celebrity, and an ego based "student - teacher" shadow (from both himself and those who follow him). Curious what you mean by an ego-based student-teacher shadow, tomas. I've attended one of Adya's satsangs (he's not on the east coast too often) and read his books and watched his dvd's. His words are always the truest to me. Many times I'll re-read passages or throw on a dvd I've already seen and something new jumps out at me - often exactly what I needed (or maybe was ready?) to hear. What I especially like about him is that he isn't just about the 'look within'. Yeah, that's the main message, but Adya recognizes the variety of packages that we all come to him in and can speak to - and through - that. He also recognizes that there's a huge variety in the way the seeing (for lack of a better word) can happen. It can be sudden, or slow or accompanied by psychic experiences or not. Or pleasant or hideously hard. He's open, and meets everyone where they are. |
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Post by silence on Jan 7, 2012 23:47:20 GMT -5
Agreed. Adya could be a superstar. Mooji is in the same league. Bentinho Massaro is also a great candidate if he does it correctly. There is a huge gap in the market and it's going to get filled. The fact that a guy like Tolle made it is an indicator that the market is desperate for them.
Interesting point. I sat with Adya and Mooji and a host of others.
My own experiences were always the same. All of them talk the same lingo. They say the same things albeit some are more efficient with the delivery.
It was only when I went to India and spent time with a unknown Indian teacher that taught in silence that I was able to make real progress. I loved it! He would simply sit with me and tell me to go within, go deep and I did. The relief(mental) and result of this simple way has no words of understanding.
Peace
NBisH[/i][/quote] Yea, even most of the well known teachers would probably tell you that a good portion of the people who come to see them are just sort of digesting words and cruising for the next mental high. A bit of honesty might reveal the same trends on spiritual forums as well. |
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Post by nobodyishome on Jan 8, 2012 16:49:02 GMT -5
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Yea, even most of the well known teachers would probably tell you that a good portion of the people who come to see them are just sort of digesting words and cruising for the next mental high. A bit of honesty might reveal the same trends on spiritual forums as well. [/quote]
Lol yeah but silence on spiritual forums is challenging for most.
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). He's on YouTube with the principles at: www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgtOL9kl7fc , and his taught applications are at: www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlIuOOFBe0c
