Adyashanti

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May 27, 2016 16:43:29 GMT -5 anja said:

No, by the limited knowledge in quoting properly, I have to go like this:

Adyashanti: "If we are spiritual practitioners, one of the things that we hope for is the dissolution of ego."

Anja: "No. There is no such thing as the dissolution of ego. We always do have egoic needs, wants and desires. We can only REDUCE them to a lesser degreee. A dissolution of ego is impossible and un-neccessary."

Adyashanti: "We recognize the pain of the egoic state, and we hope we won’t be confined to it forever."

Anja: "No! We need to have a HEALTHY ego and there is nothing wrong with having an ego. The suffering is not because we have an ego. It is because we, the innocent, do not have enough ego. That, and only that, is the real problem."

Adyashanti: "We can wake up whether the ego has dissolved or not."

Anja: "There is no such thing as waking up in reality. There is only one knows, consciously, what kind of world we live in or not. But even if one does NOT know it, it does not make any difference for the individial on a spiritual level, other than being FREE from the desire to be validated and accepted by some sort of peers. That, the knowledge that NOBODY is a teacher in spiritual matters, and only that, is what makes one independent and therefore FREE from the need to be "educated" by anybody in any kind of so called spiritual matters."

What kind of world do you live in?

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May 27, 2016 17:12:45 GMT -5 anja said:

(continued....part II:)

Adyashanti: "In fact, very strong and even destructive egos can awaken. Awakening begins the process. The result of the awakening— its fallout or aftermath—is a radical dissolving of ego."

Anja: "The so called "awakening", the so called "dissolving of ego" is in fact, in christian terminology just this: demonic possession. Where there is no ego, no needs, wants and desires of the individual, there is only a void that will be filled by evil spirits, who are called sat-anic (anti-truth). Only the non-egoic state of mind can be filled with something like anti-truth. A healthy ego is an ego that is to 50% egoic and to 50% selfless. That is what makes the middle-way the Buddha taught."

Adyashanti: "This does not mean that the ego will be in cooperation. The ego may resist this dissolution with everything it has."

Anja: "Of course it does. And from now on we do not call it an ego, we call it the soul, the ATMAN. And indeed the Atman does have personal needs, wants and desires when it incarnates here. How can it not have? It is used to be in complete agreement with its surroundings because it came from another universe, in which there is no suffering."

Adyashanti: " It may bring out the entirety of its arsenal."

Anja: "Yes, indeed. And therefore it, the ATMAN, what you call the ego, is rich, wealthy and content beyond believe. And morons like you make it feel inadequate by telling them they have to dissolve their ego, which actually means you recommend them to dissolve their soul. That kind of teaching I call demonic, dude."

If it was in complete agreement with it's surroundings in it's previous universe, how has that changed in this one?

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May 27, 2016 17:41:32 GMT -5 anja said:

(Continued...part III):

And to make it as plain as possible, what I try to do here is some sort of exorcism. And no, I'm not a christian. I'm an advaita-vedanta philosopher ARTIST by nature.

Adyashanti: "Nevertheless, the process has begun. And ultimately, once you’ve had a glimpse of reality, there’s nothing you can do to stop the ego from dissolving in time."

Anja: "No! There is no dissolving of ego, the Atman, at all. There is only utter crap, pseudo teachers like you, who have been abused from an early age on, to think themselfs as being superiour in regard of spiritual matters and that is what you engage in now. You have NOTHING to teach a seeker at all. You are empty and you know it!"

Adyashanti: "But this dissolution, when it takes place, can be very disorienting."

Anja: "Of course it is utterly unpleasant. Don't you remember the time you have been abused by your so called superiours, dude? They made you suffer and now you wanna make others suffer too. And that you call enlightenment. Because you have nothing else to give, but that crap you have been through. Just stop it, dude. You have nothing to give and you know it. You are a needy little piece of void that does not even know its own name anymore. A-dya-shanti...nomen est omen. A dead peace, that is what your name is refering to. Stop it! If you can. But I think you can't because you are too far gone by now anyway."

In my eyes, Adyashanti is the typical mind-controlled slave from birth on, who is now a so called spiritual teacher. And I think I can not do anything for him because there is nothing left to build the house on. Too much effort has been put into being a "spiritual teacher" and there is nothing left for me to fill it with joy. The void, the emptiness of such type, can not be saved at all and all effort to do so must fail.

And yes, he also is "innocent" kinda sorta, because he never had a chance to be himself anyway. But now he is too old to be young.

THAT is what demonic possession is all about. And one has to know when to walk away from it for the sake of knowing what can not be saved anymore.

Sorry!

What would the entity known as Adyashanti need saving from?

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May 27, 2016 19:32:45 GMT -5 anja said:

(Continued...part IV...for the sake of fun, not for the sake of salvation!)

Adyashanti: "There are no pat answers that a spiritual teacher can give, because any answer would just be turned into another goal by the ego. What’s more useful is to understand that to be disoriented is part of the process of awakening; it is natural to be disoriented, because everything is new. You are new, your perception is new, and your perception of everything and everyone has now changed."

Anja: "There of course are answers that will be given to the earnest and sincere seeker by a real Guru. There is no doubt about it on my side, since my Guru is Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj. And he's not of the lying sampradaya and can also talk to you although he is considered as being dead. Go figure, if you can. But I assume you would have done it, if you could. So...what was your name again? Mwaha-ha-ha-ha-ha!"

Adyashanti: "The disorientation arises because the mind is struggling to orient itself in a new context. It’s like you are falling out of a plane. If you just let yourself fall, there is no problem. But as soon as you start to grasp at space as if to find your bearings, you feel very disoriented; you realize you don’t know which way is up and which way is down."

Anja: "There is no disorientation at all, IF one is of pure heart. And no, it's not like "falling out of a plane" at all. It's like being entertained by something/someone who is utterly funny and loving by nature. Selfknowledge is not just the most joyfull knowledge in the whole wide world. It's also insanely satisfying and can not be unknown, once it is known. Nothing, absolutely nothing, can make it unknown. HA!"

True.

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May 27, 2016 19:16:17 GMT -5 anja said:

(Continued...part IV):

Adyashanti: "Awakening itself can be very disorienting. Everything you thought was true, you now see is not. The person you thought you were, you now see you are not."

Anja: "The opposite is the case, Adyashanti. To get to know yourself is not disorienting at all. It's a pleasant, joyfull and totally satisfying experience. The person I thought I am I INDEED AM!"

Adyashanti: "That itself can be blissful and a tremendous relief, and it can simultaneously be experienced as disorienting. “Who am I going to be now? What’s going to move me? What’s going to motivate this human being?”

Anja: "Yes, that can happen IF one is insecure as a person (per-son means where the sound comes from). And yes, you try to get those seekers by their insecurities. That's what demon (not me) possessed dudes do, sheit-face-boy."

Adyashanti: "Of course, if one is fully awake, one does not have these questions. But that is rare initially. For most people, there is a further process after awakening. So for most people these questions remain."

Anja: "No! I have no further questions regarding who I am, mofo! I asked, honestly, earnestly and persistently and got my answers. Once and for all, baby-satan. I'm the big one, dude. Guess my name."

Hasn't Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj told you that you're not a person?

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Jun 5, 2016 8:10:22 GMT -5 anja said:

"What kind of world do you live in?"

In a world in which Adyashanti sounds like the mentally challenged twin of Bill Burr.

Bill Burr - Religion
www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6lXGkOWBzM


"If it was in complete agreement with it's surroundings in it's previous universe, how has that changed in this one?"

Well...if one is used to swimm and dive in a clean ocean but one day finds oneself doing the same thing in a lake that is so poisoned that all fish swim with their bellys upside down, the difference will surely be recognized.


"What would the entity known as Adyashanti need saving from?"

From the delusion that he has anything of any value to say to seekers other than, "Look at me! I'm an attention-hooker! I'm too boring and lame to be a proper stand-up comedian therefore I prey on the ones who don't know what a good joke is."


"Hasn't Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj told you that you're not a person?"

The "you're not the body/person" kinda teaching is pre-school spiritual stuff for beginners. I'm at "....mountains are mountains again" fortunatly. I prefer Bill Burr over his retarded twin brother Adayshanti.

That's all.

Ha ha. You make me laugh. Seriously, I mean that in a good way. And yes, mountains are mountains.

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Jun 5, 2016 11:05:53 GMT -5 anja said:

I just would like to add this: Any so called spiritual teacher who is preaching the dissolution, destruction or death of the ego is a demon possessed baby-satan, who is spreading crap for the sake of having company in misery.

You mean like Ramana Maharshi? 

I love Stewart Lee. 

[quinn]

"Keep questioning right down to the marrow,
until the questioner dissolves -
leaving only a passing draft
where there was once a solid illusion called me."

~ Adyashanti

[laughter]

Jun 5, 2016 11:20:49 GMT -5 satchitananda said:

Jun 5, 2016 11:05:53 GMT -5 anja said:

I just would like to add this: Any so called spiritual teacher who is preaching the dissolution, destruction or death of the ego is a demon possessed baby-satan, who is spreading crap for the sake of having company in misery.

You mean like Ramana Maharshi? 

I love Stewart Lee. 

See now it was 'cause he was baby-satan that he wore a diaper. Mystery solved. Thanks anja.

[laughter]

Jun 6, 2016 12:33:27 GMT -5 quinn said:

"Keep questioning right down to the marrow,
until the questioner dissolves -
leaving only a passing draft
where there was once a solid illusion called me."

~ Adyashanti

up in smoke it drifts away
and it won't come back
no not today
nor not tomorrow or after that
the eternity train it leaves no tracks
they'd just run out now, anyway
nowhere to run, nowhere to hide, nothing to gain, no sound to say

[anja]

When the game is over,
the children go home.

Next day a new game will be invented,
for the sake of it.

Games never end,
they just get more serious
when childhood ends.

What kind of games are played,
is what our world is all about.

Choosing our games wisely,
THAT is called enlightenment.

Forget enlightenment.
It's just a silly game.

[quinn]

Posted on an Adya board from an audio cd:
"This is about as much conceptualizing of the truth as I can handle without laughing hysterically or throwing up."
-Adya



(Hey, we're all just trying to communicate here. )

[maxdprophet]

CURRENTS OF POSSIBILITY
From the "Redemptive Love" Study Course

A participant writes: How do you define “Acceptance of what is now,” and how does that differ from resignation to what is now? How can I get to real acceptance rather than resignation?

I am in great gratitude for what I do have and experience, but often life now seems quite flat. The more I have released, the more empty I have become. Nothing in the world seems of real interest now, yet my heart is desiring something it cannot clearly define but longs to feel.

Adyashanti: To be resigned to What Is can still be an act of resistance, in the sense of there being a sort of standoff or deadlock between you and your inner state.

Redemptive Love blooms when you as an ego let go of your resistance and your resignation, and allow room for something to arise that the ego cannot create. The key here is to completely and absolutely let go without reservation. Only then can the divine power of Love gain access to your heart and mind. You have to completely let go of what you cannot control and utterly depend on the loving presence of Grace. This is not an act of resignation (which is of the mind); it is an act of surrender (which is of the heart).

We go through life walking in the immense darkness of unknown realities with a little flashlight in our hands, imagining that only what our little light makes visible is real. We generally see and experience only an infinitesimally small sliver of what actually exists and remain strictly within the confines of what our tiny light illumines. The true power of life does not lie within the confines of our tiny light, but in the immense darkness of unknown realities that are the greater story of our lives.

Our lives are much more immense than we know, and connected to vast currents of hidden influences and possibilities. But we must stretch out into the darkness with the full measure of our longing, and surrender to the greater unknown context of our lives in order to begin to embrace and be embraced by a Love that is awaiting our invitation. And it is not only an invitation in word but also in deed—the act of offering our Being and the fullness of our lives to the darkness of the unknown currents—eternal possibilities that we cannot control but must instead invite with heartfelt surrender.

[quinn]

"You don’t just wake up from your little personality — you have to wake up in it."

[quinn]

"In every retreat that I hold, I can feel the minute that the retreat as a whole - certain individuals before, certain individuals after - starts to harmonize spirit and matter. When it clicks, some people get happy and some people get scared because it gets more powerful. This harmonization is the reason it's been said that, if you want to wake up, you need to hang around awakened beings. It can be awakened human beings, awakened trees, awakened mountains, awakened rivers - it can be any environment.

If we are sensitive, we can feel when environments are awakened. Human beings can be more or less awakened. So can trees or a mountain, canyon, hilltop, or a particular street corner in our neighborhood. When we expose ourselves to that awakeness, to that environment where spirit and matter are harmonized, it helps us awaken. Ultimately, that's what satsang is. That's also what meditation really is. We are exposing ourselves, and then, quite naturally, spirit and matter harmonize. All of a sudden it just clicks, without you doing anything. The less you do the better."

~ Adyashanti

Emptiness Dancing