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Post by enigma on Jun 12, 2013 10:31:03 GMT -5
Greetings.. That's the point, it's called the unknown because it is unknown. What you understand 'about' the unknown forms part of your comfort zone. Your understanding 'about' it is what you imagine will keep you from sh*tting your pants if you ever meet it... You really are frightened of what you 'believe' the unknown is, aren't you? 'i'm not, and i have no comfort zone that fits into 'your beliefs'.. i suspect that 'my' comfort zone, would fill you with terror.. Be well.. I can only conclude that you must be a great warrior.
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Post by tzujanli on Jun 12, 2013 10:31:16 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. I 'understand' some things 'about' the unknown.. i didn't say or imply that i "know all about the unknown", that's your attempt at manipulation by creating the illusion that i said that with a question that subtly suggests something that is not accurate.. again, you're grasping.. Be well.. Okay, you know something about the unknown? Yes.. Be well..
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Post by tzujanli on Jun 12, 2013 10:33:07 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. You really are frightened of what you 'believe' the unknown is, aren't you? 'i'm not, and i have no comfort zone that fits into 'your beliefs'.. i suspect that 'my' comfort zone, would fill you with terror.. Be well.. I can only conclude that you must be a great warrior. That is inaccurate.. you have evidenced many other conclusions.. Be well..
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Post by enigma on Jun 12, 2013 10:34:58 GMT -5
What do you know about the unknown Enigma? I don't even know what the term refers to, but whatever it is isn't known, by definition, so what is this nonsense about knowing some things about it?
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Post by enigma on Jun 12, 2013 10:39:41 GMT -5
Greetings.. What things do you understand about the unknown? I'll share one thing i understand, the rest you are free to explore on your own.. the unknown is the source of the known.. Be well.. TRF says it's death. I don't think either of you know.
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Post by silver on Jun 12, 2013 10:40:44 GMT -5
Greetings.. I'll share one thing i understand, the rest you are free to explore on your own.. the unknown is the source of the known.. Be well.. TRF says it's death. I don't think either of you know. That's because thus far, they haven't gotten around to defining it...
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Post by enigma on Jun 12, 2013 10:41:32 GMT -5
Greetings.. Okay, you know something about the unknown? Yes.. Be well.. So you've created knowledge out of nothing. Yes, I rez with that.
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Post by enigma on Jun 12, 2013 10:42:30 GMT -5
Greetings.. I can only conclude that you must be a great warrior. That is inaccurate.. you have evidenced many other conclusions.. Be well.. Are you serial??
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Post by enigma on Jun 12, 2013 10:47:00 GMT -5
TRF says it's death. I don't think either of you know. That's because thus far, they haven't gotten around to defining it... That's how the known is created, by imagining it into apparent existence. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but the idea that something unknown is discovered, is just more imagined knowing. Tzuth defined it as the source of the known, and TRF defined it as death.
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Post by silver on Jun 12, 2013 10:56:18 GMT -5
That's because thus far, they haven't gotten around to defining it... That's how the known is created, by imagining it into apparent existence. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but the idea that something unknown is discovered, is just more imagined knowing. Tzuth defined it as the source of the known, and TRF defined it as death. Oh...I thought there would be more to it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 11:07:49 GMT -5
What do you know about the unknown Enigma? I don't even know what the term refers to, but whatever it is isn't known, by definition, so what is this nonsense about knowing some things about it? Good question!
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Post by tzujanli on Jun 12, 2013 11:28:29 GMT -5
Greetings.. That's because thus far, they haven't gotten around to defining it... That's how the known is created, by imagining it into apparent existence. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but the idea that something unknown is discovered, is just more imagined knowing. Tzuth defined it as the source of the known, and TRF defined it as death. LOL.. really? still you try to misrepresent what is actually posted? i didn't define the 'unknown', i reported that i understand that "the unknown is the source of the known".. i stated that it is ' one thing i understand about the unknown'.. you really do try to manipulate people and their understandings. Be well..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 11:34:23 GMT -5
Greetings.. You really are frightened of what you 'believe' the unknown is, aren't you? 'i'm not, and i have no comfort zone that fits into 'your beliefs'.. i suspect that 'my' comfort zone, would fill you with terror.. Be well.. I can only conclude that you must be a great warrior. It's funny that you say that lol i've long thought of men as fitting into various archetypes. You have the Merchant, the Warrior, The Blacksmith or Farmer, and the Shaman or "Holy Man". Whatever your were when you had "realization" informs your approach afterwards. I was a Warrior, so was Tzu apparently, a fighter before is a fighter after ;-) Warriors are generally useless in daily life, but are really good under duress, as such, they seek conflict, because its a kind of comfort zone where they are calm, useful, and at their best...while not under duress, we become deranged from lack of meaning, value, and engagement. Merchants are what they are, people who are continuously selling things with some propensity for it. Merchants care not of the mysteries, but find their comfort zone in the practicalities. Blacksmith/Farmers, are those guys that show up everyday and do a good days work, in some ways they are the opposite of the Warriors, they are not good under duress....Warriors derange under everyday life with no battle to find their calm center in, Farmers derange under duress with no daily routine and security to center themselves in. Holy Men care not of this world, and find their comfort zone in the mysteries, while floundering in the practicalities that merchants thrive in. Odly enough, Niz, who was a merchant by profession, was probably the Warrior Archetype, Ramana and Jesus were probably the Holy Men Archetype. Seems like Enigma is a merchant, Max is a Farmer, yadduh yadduh yadduh. While Warriors and Farmers are kinda opposites in their comfort zone, there is an affinity in that they are doers, and where Merchants and Holy Men are opposites in their comfort zone, there is an affinity in that they are inherently thinkers. In this thought based reality, it's kinda no surprise that the thinkers, the Merchants and Holy Men, have had the most influence in shaping humanity. Whatever your archetype before coming to the ineffable, will probably inform your approach after.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 11:38:20 GMT -5
That's because thus far, they haven't gotten around to defining it... That's how the known is created, by imagining it into apparent existence. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but the idea that something unknown is discovered, is just more imagined knowing. Tzuth defined it as the source of the known, and TRF defined it as death. That's the trouble with words as they become symbols of symbols... When I say 'Death' is the unknown, it is not meant so much as a definition of the undefinable, but rather as a departure point to the unknown. It's the point where imagination runs into reality.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 11:44:40 GMT -5
I can only conclude that you must be a great warrior. It's funny that you say that lol i've long thought of men as fitting into various archetypes. You have the Merchant, the Warrior, The Blacksmith or Farmer, and the Shaman or "Holy Man". Whatever your were when you had "realization" informs your approach afterwards. I was a Warrior, so was Tzu apparently, a fighter before is a fighter after ;-) Warriors are generally useless in daily life, but are really good under duress, as such, they seek conflict, because its a kind of comfort zone where they are calm, useful, and at their best...while not under duress, we become deranged from lack of meaning, value, and engagement. Merchants are what they are, people who are continuously selling things with some propensity for it. Merchants care not of the mysteries, but find their comfort zone in the practicalities. Blacksmith/Farmers, are those guys that show up everyday and do a good days work, in some ways they are the opposite of the Warriors, they are not good under duress....Warriors derange under everyday life with no battle to find their calm center in, Farmers derange under duress with no daily routine and security to center themselves in. Holy Men care not of this world, and find their comfort zone in the mysteries, while floundering in the practicalities that merchants thrive in. Odly enough, Niz, who was a merchant by profession, was probably the Warrior Archetype, Ramana and Jesus were probably the Holy Men Archetype. Seems like Enigma is a merchant, Max is a Farmer, yadduh yadduh yadduh. While Warriors and Farmers are kinda opposites in their comfort zone, there is an affinity in that they are doers, and where Merchants and Holy Men are opposites in their comfort zone, there is an affinity in that they are inherently thinkers. Whatever your archetype before coming to the ineffable, will probably inform your approach after. I kinda like that, but I was just wondering how you know there would be an approach needed 'after' meeting the ineffable?
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