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TOLLE
Nov 29, 2010 14:25:07 GMT -5
Post by m on Nov 29, 2010 14:25:07 GMT -5
Now that some cleaning has been made, (thanks to all of you) I am really curious about how he became so famous.
Without guessing about his being a fake or not, i couldn't find in his books anything to be compared to the usefulness and the depth of hundreds of other "teachers".
I heard of a TV show, I can understand the huge marketing, I wonder about a "right man in the right place in the right time" phenomenon, but I may be missing something else. I'm just curious.
m
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TOLLE
Nov 29, 2010 14:57:04 GMT -5
Post by michaelsees on Nov 29, 2010 14:57:04 GMT -5
On Tolle,
He became famous because he was the first one to bring the idea of nonduality into the mainstream. When his power of now book came out it was being read by office workers, VIP's even Presidents of a company. Now you would never see these same people reading Niz book "I am That" but the power of now was and is still widely accepted.
I doubt very much that Tolle is not awaken. When he wrote his first book and then others many of the pointers he gives could only be given by someone that knows and was there. As far as making money he's a very rich man so what most of the rich people in business never give back anything to the people . The problem we have in this country is marketing. When we see a inf commercial r really anything on TV selling something we tend to believe it's a rip off and most of the times it is. When someone like Tolle uses the same marketing formats our conditioning stays the same and we begin to distrust. Tolle widely uses these formats simply because they are proven to work.
I saw Tolle one time at inner directions conference he seemed very authentic to me.
Michael
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TOLLE
Nov 29, 2010 15:24:15 GMT -5
Post by m on Nov 29, 2010 15:24:15 GMT -5
Thank you Michaesees. m
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TOLLE
Nov 29, 2010 17:27:57 GMT -5
Post by michaelsees on Nov 29, 2010 17:27:57 GMT -5
de nada
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lexi
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TOLLE
Nov 30, 2010 12:38:50 GMT -5
Post by lexi on Nov 30, 2010 12:38:50 GMT -5
Eckhart Tolle is a Spiritual Master. A Spiritual Master is one who is Self Realized- has realized who they really are. Whose sense of separation- ego- has dissolved.
This is liberation, freedom, freedom from suffering, emanicipation, salavation, enlightenment.
I have read his books, watched his videos, saw him twice, even held his hand. After decades as a truth seeker- I can say without a doubt, Tolle is the real thing, and his teachings are True.
His portal practices are exits from mind indentification and are amazingly effective.
Eckhart Tolle is sublime, divine.
And innocent and child-like, with astounding purity.
All the rest of the story collapses upon one true look.
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louij
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TOLLE
Dec 1, 2010 19:00:09 GMT -5
Post by louij on Dec 1, 2010 19:00:09 GMT -5
Tolle is just a human, a man in form, the only thing he offers is a TAO take on what this physical is all about. read 11 days at the edge by wombacher same thing.... a personal take on what has worked for him. Tolle is echoed by past books like louise hay etc or chopra ... the message is the same threads..... the secret is an echo of anthony robbins so many years ago with positive thinking. There is nothing - new - actually, so if you read tolle and get no lightbulb moments then his thread is not your thread, create and take responsibility for your own journey. I am read the journey it is a take on acceptance of your own responsibility for you..... it has meaning for me, because I am in the last years of diabetes with internal organs giving me pain keeping me awake at night the insulin feelable coursing through my body, there is so called pain associated with night sweats and discomfort. So I am doing a healing book, talking to my own body, allow it to do what it has to do, always bringing in the promise of health and healing... the renewing of cells. For this i swim a lot and walk a lot... from even the most intellectualised 7th man ouspensky view we remain a physical being... and yet this too, is a concept. An ordinary woman coming to work as a char for someone after three weeks said i have to leave this job, the woman understood that work seeking had taken many months and knew that the job was needed.... she asked why, are you not happy with us. the char said yes but every time you leave the house the man with the turban walks around while i work, she said he is the same man as in the photographs in your bedroom...... she was seeing the Master Charan Singh Ji.... he revealed himself to her, she was given books about sant mat and later asked for initiation. Why does this happen spontaneously, ....... there is more happening that you see within.... with aura, with intuition, with seeing other beings.... we all have this ability to access the parallel regions....... to witness a tree growing and playing in the wind and sunshine.... yet we have shut this off, as some unimportant gift. When your reaction to a teacher is so powerful as the poster of this topic, Tolle, then they are accessing information which causes them to fragment at the possibility of it all, the reaction is deep seated and personal............... better to look at your own core response and move from there.......... love evolve louij
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louij
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TOLLE
Dec 1, 2010 19:06:16 GMT -5
Post by louij on Dec 1, 2010 19:06:16 GMT -5
we need to respect each walk from own perspective what is simple and unnecessary for any of us at any given time, is extremely personalised...... food like sunshine comes in its exact form for you to glean truth, my truth is now your truth and truth in its purity is not the same truth, we are all hanging on to the Jesus on the cross truth, or some Siddarta truth, what about louij truth, my truth..... it is difficult enough to glean your own truth in its entirity.... what masks you still wear, and how we engage people........ rage is one of my attributes a rage so powerful it is impossible that it is a present life challenge........ yet it is in direct conflict with my soul music....... it is what makes my painting hugely dark with absolute light in contrast.... being kind to the child within it an important step towards... en.lighten.ment.
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mits
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TOLLE
Dec 3, 2010 15:11:23 GMT -5
Post by mits on Dec 3, 2010 15:11:23 GMT -5
I am not a big fan of Eckhart Tolle but when you read his books I do think that he has seen beyond the illusion. And by this I mean your true nature
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TOLLE
Dec 5, 2010 3:39:07 GMT -5
Post by m on Dec 5, 2010 3:39:07 GMT -5
When I read what he said or wrote, when i see the marketing I do think he is no more awaken, realized, enlightenment than anybody... so what? Nothing bad about opinions. Opinion is opinion. Thank you for yours; m I am not a big fan of Eckhart Tolle but when you read his books I do think that he has seen beyond the illusion. And by this I mean your true nature
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TOLLE
Dec 13, 2010 23:59:34 GMT -5
Post by teetown on Dec 13, 2010 23:59:34 GMT -5
I read in one interview that he doesn't actually have much to do with the business side of his teachings. His handlers deal with most of that stuff because he's not all that interested in it.
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TOLLE
Dec 29, 2010 14:50:37 GMT -5
Post by m on Dec 29, 2010 14:50:37 GMT -5
Tolle not all that interested in the money he makes ?. How surprising !... A clever guy start some business, wanting to rule everybody in the surroudings of Ramana. And Maharshi did not do anything about it. He just moved away. The business dude moved as well and restart the whole business. Again Ramana just moved away. And this game continued till the guy gave up.... Do you think Tolle was the first to give up ? Do you think he is not aware ? Do you think he really don't care ? Do you think he thinks this no big deal or in the benefit of people or what ? Taking for granted he is "done" (as people say), I am really just curious. m I read in one interview that he doesn't actually have much to do with the business side of his teachings. His handlers deal with most of that stuff because he's not all that interested in it.
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TOLLE
Dec 29, 2010 17:22:19 GMT -5
Post by teetown on Dec 29, 2010 17:22:19 GMT -5
I dunno what he thinks, I'm only speculating. ;D I don't like how his teachings have been commercialized either. I do think it's possible this huge machine has risen up around him without him having much input on it. His teachings are powerful. Much like how Christs teachings spawned huge institution. Maybe I'm biased because I read Power of Now way before he was on Oprah and became so well-known. I think the book was published by some little nothin' of a publishing company and there was very little promotion down for it. It spread by word of mouth alone. Tolle not all that interested in the money he makes ?. How surprising !... A clever guy start some business, wanting to rule everybody in the surroudings of Ramana. And Maharshi did not do anything about it. He just moved away. The business dude moved as well and restart the whole business. Again Ramana just moved away. And this game continued till the guy gave up.... Do you think Tolle was the first to give up ? Do you think he is not aware ? Do you think he really don't care ? Do you think he thinks this no big deal or in the benefit of people or what ? Taking for granted he is "done" (as people say), I am really just curious. m I read in one interview that he doesn't actually have much to do with the business side of his teachings. His handlers deal with most of that stuff because he's not all that interested in it.
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TOLLE
Dec 30, 2010 13:01:09 GMT -5
Post by wynn on Dec 30, 2010 13:01:09 GMT -5
"After decades as a truth seeker- I can say without a doubt, Tolle is the real thing, and his teachings are True." - lexi
I agree. I think Eckhart is the real deal too, and I'm pretty skeptical about teachers that charge money. I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with becoming prosperous, its when your possessions end up owning you, instead of the reverse, that there's a problem.
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TOLLE
Jan 3, 2011 15:04:01 GMT -5
Post by mayesvara on Jan 3, 2011 15:04:01 GMT -5
Eckart Tolle is a post suicidal fraud and it's actually very scary how many people seem to think he has anything worth while to say. What is his qualification to say ANYTHING about subjects as esoteric and illusion prone as the nature of the Absolute Truth?
For more detail I invite the readers of this to check the new topic I just posted called: "Who AM I".
mayesvara dasa American Vedic Association Ojai, Ca.
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TOLLE
Jan 3, 2011 15:40:14 GMT -5
Post by karen on Jan 3, 2011 15:40:14 GMT -5
Yeah! Where is his certificate of Enlightenment?
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