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Post by Portto on Dec 3, 2010 8:41:39 GMT -5
Thank you for your post, monkkey.
What I see is that there are thoughts and there are perceptions, and some thoughts are trying to explain/analyze the perceptions.
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Post by m on Dec 3, 2010 10:36:29 GMT -5
Very interesting,.. don't you think monkkey? My self ( Yes I have still one, it's fun) I am going in the mountains on the 9th, ... may be the season for it m Good job monkey in explaining this is what happens when you begin to get close. I will only add the point is not to get out of the show but to go through the show to the other side where non conceptual awareness sits waiting. However before this happens you will go through some stuff that only the very brave will make it through. remember when I write words are extremely limited what I try to do is paint a very general heads up. In a day or 2 I am going by myself into the mountains where a cabin is so I will not be on here until I am on here again. Michael
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Post by monkkey on Dec 3, 2010 11:50:46 GMT -5
porto- cool. my rant just carried on and on; sorry about that. i had meant to just provide the links, but then the c r a p just kept coming out! it more or less was just a babble script to myself, but i posted it anyway. could you perceive the hand as yours when you were one year old? i just find it interesting that all of thes ideas that we know anything is built up on this foundation created around a central figure. freaky fun far out cool stuff. www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/vilayanur_ramachandran_on_your_mind.html
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Post by Portto on Dec 3, 2010 14:59:02 GMT -5
could you perceive the hand as yours when you were one year old? I don't perceive them as mine, just more intimate/personal than other objects. Regarding the one-year old guy, or the yesterday's guy, I can only imagine what they perceived. From memory/imagination I could say that all sorts of perceptions showed up. The main discussion was regarding whether or not thinking is required for these perceptions to occur.
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Post by monkkey on Dec 4, 2010 0:15:57 GMT -5
cool.
i was just suggesting (in too many words) they could be considered as two heads of the same phenomenon.
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