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Post by michaelsees on Dec 1, 2010 16:55:10 GMT -5
Peter I do not have 2 active accounts. Yes I was on this forum some years ago. I was away for so long I did not remember what name I used or password so I just registered a new one. The old account has been dead for years now Peter. Stop trying to deflect this you have multiple accounts here to funnel members into your website and to give to yourself Karma points. To be that is very sad Peter Anyhow I will not debate with you. You are a trouble maker Peter and you would enjoy nothing better than a nasty debate. I think it gives you energy or something. From this point forward I have stopped any communicate with you so others in the group do not have to listen to your many....
Michael
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Post by charliegee on Dec 1, 2010 16:56:17 GMT -5
and WTF? ...
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Post by enigma on Dec 1, 2010 17:14:10 GMT -5
As I think you know, I'm morbidly curious about how and why the mind forms illusion, because it's central to the process of revealing it to ourselves, and possibly others, and so this thread hasn't been entirely pointless to me. The illusions can be spotted and the underlying motivations for seeing things the way they are seen can be discovered. Nothing is hidden, though the motivation to look is rarely present. The illusions being imagined here aren't as insidious as some, but they point directly to the mental process that creates all of human suffering. Hehe, I'm pretty curious about that too. I have seen people imagining a whole fairy tale just from somebody's look or from a word. Or people who have such vivid nightly dreams that they continue to be involved with them even after waking up in the morning. Are you sure that mental processes create suffering? Are these processes building suffering and storing it somewhere? Yeah, there's a little suffering gland just under the parietal lobe. Hehe.
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Post by Portto on Dec 1, 2010 18:32:00 GMT -5
Yeah, there's a little suffering gland just under the parietal lobe. Hehe. Ahaaa, so that's why lobotomy is so effective!
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Post by enigma on Dec 1, 2010 18:36:54 GMT -5
Yeah, there's a little suffering gland just under the parietal lobe. Hehe. Ahaaa, so that's why lobotomy is so effective! Yes, though I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Hehe.
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Post by charliegee on Dec 1, 2010 18:48:57 GMT -5
to quote Groucho. 'that's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard' ... (wave of cigar and arch of eyebrow) ...
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Post by Portto on Dec 1, 2010 19:36:49 GMT -5
Yes, though I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Hehe. Indeed, good old ethanol. Thinking takes time, while suffering is more of an instantaneous kind of thing.
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Post by Portto on Dec 1, 2010 19:38:02 GMT -5
to quote Groucho. 'that's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard' ... (wave of cigar and arch of eyebrow) ... "The most ridiculous thing ever heard so far!"
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Post by enigma on Dec 1, 2010 22:43:06 GMT -5
Yes, though I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Hehe. Indeed, good old ethanol. Thinking takes time, while suffering is more of an instantaneous kind of thing. Suffering can't happen without thinking.
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Post by zendancer on Dec 1, 2010 22:46:37 GMT -5
"Zendancer for example i see him as having a big house in a rich area, almost like a perfect utopia. He has not been exposed to the problems of todays youth in inner city life."
Cabin: No and yes. No, I currently live in an 780 square foot apartment in an industrial park. It is so tiny that my wife and I have to exhale before passing each other in the hallway. LOL. We used to live in a big home, but got tired of cleaning it. Yes, I have not been exposed (on a regular basis) to the kind of life you described, and hearing your situation makes me sad that anyone has to live in that kind of enviroment. If you leave the forum, many of us will miss you, but we wish you the very best. Your posts often bring up poignant memories for me from the distant past. You have my heart. Take good care of yourself.
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Post by monkkey on Dec 1, 2010 22:51:11 GMT -5
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Post by enigma on Dec 1, 2010 23:03:29 GMT -5
You don't know Ciaran at all, do you? Hehe.
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Post by monkkey on Dec 1, 2010 23:08:07 GMT -5
i have found that in the light of fundamental awareness, thinking stops, and therefore so does suffering. not as in "you" the character stop it, which can not exist without the thinking, but more like the impetus to think or move consciousness is not there. stillness.
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Post by monkkey on Dec 1, 2010 23:13:40 GMT -5
enigma-
not even in the slightest way. nor have i ever communicated with anyone offline here.
i am a simpleton really. just figured how to quote people!
add: i do find it wonderfully ironic that he has a quote on his fb page "I'm the guy who just worked out the core process of human pooyness and how to interrupt it permanently."
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Post by enigma on Dec 1, 2010 23:16:14 GMT -5
i have found that in the light of fundamental awareness, thinking stops, and therefore so does suffering. not as in "you" the character stop it, which can not exist without the thinking, but more like the impetus to think or move consciousness is not there. stillness. Yup, suffering is in our interpretation.
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