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Post by michaelsees on Nov 6, 2010 19:50:04 GMT -5
ZD and others I would like to hear your comments on this guy and group. Be warned they do not think much of Neo-Advaita but seriously follow the path of Advaita. Please take a look at the Blog site. itisnotreal.blogspot.comlooking forward to some feedback thanks Michael |
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Post by michaelsees on Nov 10, 2010 16:06:35 GMT -5
Hi
Well I need to be honestly here I read Ed's and Ravji new book "Autobiography of a Jnani"
it was filled with very useful knowledge that any seeker would benefit from as what they have written about actual experiences on the way to beyond consciousness have never been written any place else.
You can go to the blog site I gave above this post and it's a free download.
They have it in Google docs which is not as good as pdf so I made a pdf file and the link is here and remember it's all legal so you legal gales need not be concerned it's really a wonderful book. good link www.4shared.com/document/bzNKi20B/Autobiography_of_a_Jnani.htmlMichael
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Post by bestill on Nov 25, 2010 15:29:31 GMT -5
Ed is the real deal! And he has now started online Satsangs and allows his students to publish all his teachings for free... videos, audio file and transcripts of all of these. There are no 'memberships', no 'give your email address to get info'. There is no pressure, just excellent info for spiritual seekers. He even has some students putting up info in different languages... all for free. Some of his students' websites: www.WeAreSentience.org (this has all his videos, audio files and transcripts and Autobiography of a Jnani in English, French and Italian!) www.itisnotreal.net (Italian website) itisnotreal-fr.blogspot.com/ (French blog) Ed's teaching may not be for everyone, but it is Advaita at the highest level. |
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Post by michaelsees on Nov 25, 2010 17:04:26 GMT -5
Hi bestill,
Yes I know him it's why I started this thread. I do have some issues with his view concerning other teachers. They believe that all the new teachers on the scene within the last 15 years or so are not really awaken but only think they are. Folks such as adyashanti,gangaji, papji etc are a bunch of crazy neo-advaita teachers that are deceiving the masses. However for myself I see nothing wrong with his and Robert Adam's teaching. I would only wish that they did not put down other teachers down+.
Also you may not know but Edji had to remove all of Robert Adams writings, transcripts etc because of the pain in the butt attorney going after the poor guy because of copyrights . I will not go into this as the board knows how I feel about the issue of copyrights and how I feel about self-serving attorney's that make money off the rich and hurt the poor.
But as far as Edji's teachings he is right up there in my opinion
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Post by bestill on Nov 26, 2010 15:02:52 GMT -5
Hi again Michael,
Here is some deep food for thought... At the deepest level we both know that Edji is your own personal projection/dream, as is all he does or says.
In 'my' projection/dream, I have seen him criticize neo-advaitins but not the specific teachers you have mentioned.
He is 'our' mirror!
Interesting isn't it! :-)
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Post by michaelsees on Nov 26, 2010 18:45:27 GMT -5
Hi, Yes you are correct I mentioned certain teachers because his blog lumps all of them together maybe that was a mistake. However Edji's teachings are very precise such as the need to go through all 4 bodies before you awaken. Edji and others cannot get past the idea that many times awakening just happens regardless of past history. They clearly propose that if awakening happens without a good amount of meditation history it's not a real awakening and neo-advaita teachings therefore are misleading and causing damage to the progress of anyone that follows these teachings. It's all there on his blog you need not believe me. My own feeling is somewhere between Edji teachings and neo-advaita the truth is to be found. I am a rebel by nature and I have always had a difficult time with the follow me I am the correct one while putting down other paths and this is what is happening if you read his blog with non-partial eyes. To me this is very disconcerting because whether you believe me or not I will tell you the absolute truth which is it matters not 1 micron if you meditated for 17 years in front of a wall or you were just walking across a park like Tony Parsons. Now I will say that I feel the sincere desire for the truth needs to be there but beyond this awakening stands on it's own for it either happens or not happens. But Edji speaks about a definite progression in order to truly awaken and it may be true for some I really don't know but I do know without a doubt it is a very false statement for most seekers. Peace Michael- Hi again Michael, Here is some deep food for thought... At the deepest level we both know that Edji is your own personal projection/dream, as is all he does or says. In 'my' projection/dream, I have seen him criticize neo-advaitins but not the specific teachers you have mentioned. He is 'our' mirror! Interesting isn't it! :-) |
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Post by bestill on Nov 26, 2010 22:59:24 GMT -5
Hi Michael... did you see this recent post on Edji's blog and Edji's answer? Edji knows it can happen very quickly but does not want to discourage people...
Dear Edji,
Taking several years for true awakening in Not prerequisite.
Even Rajiv as I believe you posted was able to do this in 3 months if I understood you correctly now I know he practice kryia yoga for 12 years but here's my take no one knows what another person has done prior to taking this path.There's no special power a guru gives but he gives himself to whoever follows him so the person can practice humility. He also dives direction. But make no mistake there are plenty of people in the world that are truly very humble and go within daily my feeling is these people are already doing this path but have not named it as such by placing a label on what they are doing.
Please do not misunderstand me I am not insulting you or your path.
I am only saying your own estimate of time may be off considerable depending on the seeker background.
with love
November 13, 2010
Ed Muzika said...
True, but I don't want people to be in a hurry for awakening or experiences. Just relaxed yet alert. Many come wanting everything right away, get disappointed and leave. So, I tell them practice as if it will take forever.
November 13, 2010
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Post by michaelsees on Nov 27, 2010 0:08:57 GMT -5
Yes I read this but you must look at both posts carefully.
The first comment from the seeker implied strongly that it takes years to awaken. Also in that post is past history etc etc.
Please do not misunderstand me I like Edji I don't see him as a guru at all but I can tell he's authentic.
I will end our conversation with this as I do not wish to belabor this issue which is clear as a bell to me. It really does not matter what Edji thinks or says or anyone for that matter awakening has it's own agenda it happens or it does not. I just took this at random off Edji's blog. No explaining is needed.
peace
Michael
Yes Edji is right most of Neo-Advaita is completely shallow and superficial.
I do come across a few of Neo-advaitin teachers’ writings here and there and I have to admit that they write very nice words. Words that are soothing and beautiful to hear, especially these words “THERE IS NOTHING TO DO.” I mean who wouldn’t love such a person who offers a candy for free. Many fall for it and then realize later this was all a big scam. They will realize that they have paid big time for the time they wasted believing to be “realized” because they were told “You are already that.”Hi Michael... did you see this recent post on Edji's blog and Edji's answer? Edji knows it can happen very quickly but does not want to discourage people... Dear Edji, Taking several years for true awakening in Not prerequisite. Even Rajiv as I believe you posted was able to do this in 3 months if I understood you correctly now I know he practice kryia yoga for 12 years but here's my take no one knows what another person has done prior to taking this path.There's no special power a guru gives but he gives himself to whoever follows him so the person can practice humility. He also dives direction. But make no mistake there are plenty of people in the world that are truly very humble and go within daily my feeling is these people are already doing this path but have not named it as such by placing a label on what they are doing. Please do not misunderstand me I am not insulting you or your path. I am only saying your own estimate of time may be off considerable depending on the seeker background. with love November 13, 2010 Ed Muzika said... True, but I don't want people to be in a hurry for awakening or experiences. Just relaxed yet alert. Many come wanting everything right away, get disappointed and leave. So, I tell them practice as if it will take forever. November 13, 2010
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Post by bestill on Nov 27, 2010 9:40:35 GMT -5
Dear Michael,
Thank you for 'chatting' with me :-)
Love and peace,
JM
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Post by michaelsees on Nov 27, 2010 13:50:27 GMT -5
Thanks anytime JM
Michael
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Post by advaitdas on Dec 1, 2010 4:03:46 GMT -5
Yes Michael you are 100% right .
Autobiography of Jnani is indeed a priceless text. A text not to be seen before.
I follow Eds teachings and his wonderful blog. The book and his blog restores hope for me, truly inspires me like nothing has.
Sunita
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Post by m on Dec 8, 2010 15:55:26 GMT -5
I just red "Autobiography of a jnani". That's it!
Experiences are nothing but experiences. Stay where the real I/ME is.
Effort don't make it, but without effort you will never make it.
"Enlightenment", "Awakening" can but be in no-time & no space, here and now. So it looks like "instant" from our "ordinary" perspective.
But,and lots of (no)things are going on before and after. The end of it may whenever somebody decide it so... for a while :-) ...
IMO for most of us it seems that many "instant-enlightenment" mays happen in a life-time. Only-One, first & last "instant-enlightenment" (Ramana style) is probably very very very rare.
So nothing new in "Autobiography of a jnani". ...but no B.S... and that is rare.
m
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Post by ananda on Dec 11, 2010 2:15:35 GMT -5
Autobiography of a Jnani is a rare book.
Very rare. It claims how any seeker can attain in a matter of just 3 months.
3 MONTHS !!! And provides a precise direction and laid out map for that. Its unbelievable stuff. All that the seeker needed was deep surrender and faith in his teachers instructions.
So clear, defined and cut out of all bullshit indeed.
Ananada
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Post by michaelsees on Dec 12, 2010 14:59:29 GMT -5
Hi Ananda,
Happy you enjoyed the book but you may have your info a little off.
The subject in the book Ravji had full realization in 3 months however this person was not your average seeker of truth he had 12 years of daily Kryia yoga practice under his belt and had already experienced different forms of samadhis.
Having said this it is a great book that shows his stages of experiences in a intimate dialogue between disciple and master.
Michael
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Post by Portto on Dec 12, 2010 18:05:19 GMT -5
The subject in the book Ravji had full realization in 3 months however this person was not your average seeker of truth he had 12 years of daily Kryia yoga practice under his belt and had already experienced different forms of samadhis. So he had yoga under the belt. Now, where is Ravji keeping his realization, and what is he doing with it? |
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