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Post by michaelsees on Dec 12, 2010 20:09:27 GMT -5
Shhhh..if I told you the mystery would be lost and where are we without our mystery  Michael So he had yoga under the belt. Now, where is Ravji keeping his realization, and what is he doing with it? |
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Post by Portto on Dec 12, 2010 23:50:53 GMT -5
Shhhh..if I told you the mystery would be lost and where are we without our mystery Michael Hehe, you want to keep it all to your only self!  |
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Post by michaelsees on Dec 13, 2010 10:04:12 GMT -5
Onik Onik!  Hehe, you want to keep it all to your only self! |
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Post by ananda on Dec 14, 2010 7:07:14 GMT -5
Hi Micheal,
Thank you. I see I missed that information.
I now see that Rajiv starts at a advanced level itself.
The book talks about various levels of Consciousness. So it will seem better to contact one of these.
Micheal whome you suggest? Do you know them personally?
Do they teach?
Regards and in Divine Friendship,
Ananda
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Post by selfseeker on Dec 31, 2010 3:27:46 GMT -5
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Post by selfseeker on Dec 31, 2010 3:45:08 GMT -5
By the way if anyone want to listen to the silence? Here is Robert Adams satsangs in mp3 format. Listen myself to and from work everyday. Such a blessing to just sink.... robertadamssatsangs.yolasite.com/Free of charge as per Roberts request. See the beautiful "cooking" lesson he gave Ed Muzika on the subject below. “Some of you who only come on Thursday nights are not aware that we've got transcripts of some of these lessons. And we have lessons one to five, they are free of charge.” “The fellow who prints them up, went to a lot of trouble so he was charging for them so I told him not to do that. I think the way we should do it is when we get some of these lessons some of us should make five or ten copies each and hand them out to each other. That would be the best way, so Ed doesn't have to make two-hundred copies by himself.” “I allow the transcripts for one reason, because you only see me for 3-4 hours a week and the transcripts are an extension of my Self.” |
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Post by ivory on Jul 22, 2011 22:59:44 GMT -5
Not sure what happened to the last post, I read it earlier and wanted it to respond. I was not a big meditator in the beginning, but the last few months I've been meditation my a$$ off simply because I feel drawn to silence these days.
I feel that the whole "autobiography of a jnani" document is mostly a waste. It's too technical. The part that I do find relevant is this:
I remember after my session was over that it was haphazard, all over the place to start with. It made no sense, no direction but it was the way consciousness decided. I was no party to it. I was only resting letting it do what it wants. The ways of Consciousness makes no sense, no direction, and no method. It was like chaos, total chaos. I control nothing for I am very clear on my position. I have no will. It felt stupid that I didn‘t wish to do anything at all. I was too busy resting I thought let it do what it wants.
This has been my experience with meditation recently. In the beginning there was a lot of concentration, but now I just sit with no effort at all and the mind quiets on its own. Silence seems to have a pull. Thoughts arise and pass, emotions arise and pass, and then there's just silence. One minute awareness will shift to sound, the next moment there will just be this vast spaciousness that opens up on its own. At that point I notice a very thin, blurred sense of physical sensation, almost as if it sensation itself could collapse at any moment.
Then again, there's much less interest in thought these days. Most of it has been seen to be illusory. I feel that the buddhist teaching of impermanence to be quite relevant at this stage in the game.
All of the above seems to be inline with Adyashanti's "True Meditation" CD, which is all about sitting and just letting everything be as it is. I'm fairly new to sitting meditation, but I've heard the Zen guys discuss this style of effortless meditation.
Maybe ZD can comment on this. Curious to hear his perspective.
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Post by ivory on Jul 22, 2011 23:04:12 GMT -5
Oh, the other thing I found interesting is that Edji seemed to be seeking all the way to the end. His desire for truth never fell away. He alluded to this in parts of the document, but it seems that he no longer believed in thought, despite thought's persistence. In other words, I think he recognized thought's proclaimed desire for truth as nothing more than impermanent, arising and falling phenomena.
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Post by acewall on Jul 22, 2011 23:13:13 GMT -5
Charlie,
here I Am@your service but it seems that everything has already been erased...
please link me to the spot if its not in this domain.
cheers!
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Post by acewall on Jul 22, 2011 23:15:16 GMT -5
Hi
Well I need to be honestly here I read Ed's and Ravji new book "Autobiography of a Jnani"
it was filled with very useful knowledge that any seeker would benefit from as what they have written about actual experiences on the way to beyond consciousness have never been written any place else.
You can go to the blog site I gave above this post and it's a free download.
They have it in Google docs which is not as good as pdf so I made a pdf file and the link is here and remember it's all legal so you legal gales need not be concerned it's really a wonderful book. good link www.4shared.com/document/bzNKi20B/Autobiography_of_a_Jnani.htmlMichael Link isnt valid Michael. Can you refresh?  |
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Post by acewall on Jul 22, 2011 23:17:48 GMT -5
I think he recognized thought's proclaimed desire for truth as nothing more than impermanent, arising and falling phenomena. thoughts-desire or the egos desire? Thoughts were here before we were born. Our parents Parents were choosey about thought also. What about the gap which occurs between thoughts... when one allows their mind to relax? |
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Post by acewall on Jul 22, 2011 23:29:33 GMT -5
I feel that the whole "autobiography of a jnani" document is mostly a waste. It's too technical. The part that I do find relevant is this: I remember after my session was over that it was haphazard, all over the place to start with. It made no sense, no direction but it was the way consciousness decided. I was no party to it. I was only resting letting it do what it wants. The ways of Consciousness makes no sense, no direction, and no method. It was like chaos, total chaos. I control nothing for I am very clear on my position. I have no will. It felt stupid that I didn‘t wish to do anything at all. I was too busy resting I thought let it do what it wants.Maybe ZD can comment on this. Curious to hear his perspective. Like that lil bit of writing about lettings things be in your post Ivory. Mind can create all sorts of delightful(an non-delightful) experiences, which are just momentary-experiences as our concious energy that is condenced in some part of ourselves, becomes un-done due to 'no-one' being @home to attend the maintanance of the honeycomb. When our minds relax, 'mind' beguins to become un-done. We create 'mind' at our earliest beguinings and the spiritual journey is basically, returning to ones purity of perception. |
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Post by karen on Jul 22, 2011 23:46:04 GMT -5
Link isnt valid Michael. Can you refresh? He left the forum a while back. |
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Post by acewall on Jul 22, 2011 23:49:33 GMT -5
Link isnt valid Michael. Can you refresh? He left the forum a while back. thank you karen. |
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Post by ivory on Jul 23, 2011 0:33:27 GMT -5
I think he recognized thought's proclaimed desire for truth as nothing more than impermanent, arising and falling phenomena. thoughts-desire or the egos desire? same thing. but there isn't a distinct entity that desires. there's just the arising and falling of desire. automagically. Thoughts were here before we were born. Our parents Parents were choosey about thought also. you lost me there. parents weren't choosy about thought. there were just thoughts which they mistook as THEIR thoughts. |
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