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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 16:42:40 GMT -5
more antics .. more quotes. non-denominational this time, lest goofy thinks there is more conditioning at play. "Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something." Plato "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do." Benjamin Franklin This is really what all you longtime TAT splat posters do, farmer. It's like watching a bunch of idiots debating on a daily basis where they think the next piece in the non dual jigsaw puzzle should be placed, all the while unaware that there are no pieces.
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Post by Ishtahota on Aug 5, 2013 18:15:56 GMT -5
Non-duality is a state of conscious awareness, which helps us to see the world as it really is. Ending all of our inner coflict by doing our personal clearing and changing how we think allows us to see the world as it really is, and helps us enter into non-duality consciousness. Meditation also helps to build synapses between both halves of our brains. Our split brain is a direct product of duality consciousness.
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Post by hybrid on Aug 5, 2013 20:50:44 GMT -5
nonduality=no self not here not there not you not me
not the same yet not another
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Post by laughter on Aug 5, 2013 21:03:22 GMT -5
Greetings.. As far as "Tzu's beliefs" are concerned. THIS and THIS are "what is". Now Tzu' ... you tell me what "belief" I've stated here. Oh, Bill.. really? Okay.. i'll help you out.. No, you don't have it 'right'.. it is entirely possible to be 'attached' to 1).. in which case that 'attachment' also defines "1)" as a 'belief'.. it is the openness and willingness to let go of beliefs and knowledge, and for new information to counsel fluid dynamism in one's relationship with their existence that liberates the experiencer from 'beliefs'.. While I'm sure you'd be happy to make every thread about your belief structure I've replied to you on this here instead as it's far off topic. It is not the belief you've stated, Exactly. You can't quote any. You should have stopped there. So ... you can't quote, link or otherwise recite what my beliefs are because you admit that I've haven't stated any, but despite this you're maintaining that these alleged beliefs "counsel my attachments" as "evidenced by my quest". That's five different things you created out of thin air, pure fantasy and sheer imagination in the course of one sentence. I'll be happy to answer that question for you if you restate it slightly, because as I said in my reply to OHC: ... and don't get misdirected by what might appear as a double-negative to you: not-two is a pointer and putting a not in front of it doesn't negate the part of the pointer that is the word not.
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Post by silver on Aug 5, 2013 21:04:01 GMT -5
Non-duality is a state of conscious awareness, which helps us to see the world as it really is. Ending all of our inner coflict by doing our personal clearing and changing how we think allows us to see the world as it really is, and helps us enter into non-duality consciousness. Meditation also helps to build synapses between both halves of our brains. Our split brain is a direct product of duality consciousness. Sounds good. If you want to learn more about the evolution of our brains, I highly recommend checking out Julian Jaynes' book: The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind. I'm trying to say that there's no shame in whatever evolutionary step we happen to be on at any given moment. Don't mind me, I'm just sayin' stuff.
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Post by Ishtahota on Aug 5, 2013 21:50:22 GMT -5
Non-duality is a state of conscious awareness, which helps us to see the world as it really is. Ending all of our inner coflict by doing our personal clearing and changing how we think allows us to see the world as it really is, and helps us enter into non-duality consciousness. Meditation also helps to build synapses between both halves of our brains. Our split brain is a direct product of duality consciousness. Sounds good. If you want to learn more about the evolution of our brains, I highly recommend checking out Julian Jaynes' book: The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind. I'm trying to say that there's no shame in whatever evolutionary step we happen to be on at any given moment. Don't mind me, I'm just sayin' stuff. On one of my spirit journeys the showed me what our true potential is. We as human beings are far more then we have ever dreamed. The duality consciousness is what keeps us shut down, and only using a small part of our brains potential. The brain being just an interface so to speak for or true self to come threw. There is nothing wrong with saying stuff.
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Post by tzujanli on Aug 6, 2013 0:16:30 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. Oh, Bill.. really? Okay.. i'll help you out.. No, you don't have it 'right'.. it is entirely possible to be 'attached' to 1).. in which case that 'attachment' also defines "1)" as a 'belief'.. it is the openness and willingness to let go of beliefs and knowledge, and for new information to counsel fluid dynamism in one's relationship with their existence that liberates the experiencer from 'beliefs'.. While I'm sure you'd be happy to make every thread about your belief structure I've replied to you on this here instead as it's far off topic. It is not the belief you've stated, Exactly. You can't quote any. You should have stopped there.So ... you can't quote, link or otherwise recite what my beliefs are because you admit that I've haven't stated any, but despite this you're maintaining that these alleged beliefs "counsel my attachments" as "evidenced by my quest". That's five different things you created out of thin air, pure fantasy and sheer imagination in the course of one sentence. I'll be happy to answer that question for you if you restate it slightly, because as I said in my reply to OHC: ... and don't get misdirected by what might appear as a double-negative to you: not-two is a pointer and putting a not in front of it doesn't negate the part of the pointer that is the word not. You asked: Which appeared to reference your present post, but.. it seems that you want to create the illusion it referenced ALL of your posts, so.. you have stated your belief that Oneness and nonduality are true, and you and i know that is an accurate statement, so no, unlike others i will not go dumpster diving.. If you were happy to answer questions you would.. not with cryptic riddles, pictures, videos, music, etc.. but direct open honest discussion.. not conditioned or stipulated to create illusions, or to manipulate the discussion, just plain talk, honest discussion.. Seriously Bill.. why bother? You just keep appearing weaker and weaker, like you just gotta prove something about 'you', that 'you're right', better, or whatever you believe it is that defines 'you'.. let it go, brother, you wear it like a cheap suit.. Be well..
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Post by onehandclapping on Aug 6, 2013 1:55:28 GMT -5
You can call it a belief if you so choose to label it that, but that isn't what it is. Just like a tree isn't really a tree. These words aren't really words. And you aren't really you. It's as much of a belief as the sound of one hand clapping is silent. Yes, of course, the point is that you "believe" it exists whether it can be named or not... Believe... No. Know.... Yes. Of course that isn't the "know" you think it is....
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Post by onehandclapping on Aug 6, 2013 2:03:40 GMT -5
Greetings.. While I'm sure you'd be happy to make every thread about your belief structure I've replied to you on this here instead as it's far off topic. Exactly. You can't quote any. You should have stopped there.So ... you can't quote, link or otherwise recite what my beliefs are because you admit that I've haven't stated any, but despite this you're maintaining that these alleged beliefs "counsel my attachments" as "evidenced by my quest". That's five different things you created out of thin air, pure fantasy and sheer imagination in the course of one sentence. I'll be happy to answer that question for you if you restate it slightly, because as I said in my reply to OHC: ... and don't get misdirected by what might appear as a double-negative to you: not-two is a pointer and putting a not in front of it doesn't negate the part of the pointer that is the word not. You asked: Which appeared to reference your present post, but.. it seems that you want to create the illusion it referenced ALL of your posts, so.. you have stated your belief that Oneness and nonduality are true, and you and i know that is an accurate statement, so no, unlike others i will not go dumpster diving.. If you were happy to answer questions you would.. not with cryptic riddles, pictures, videos, music, etc.. but direct open honest discussion.. not conditioned or stipulated to create illusions, or to manipulate the discussion, just plain talk, honest discussion.. Seriously Bill.. why bother? You just keep appearing weaker and weaker, like you just gotta prove something about 'you', that 'you're right', better, or whatever you believe it is that defines 'you'.. let it go, brother, you wear it like a cheap suit.. Be well.. Hahaha. Classic General's stuff. Love it. The stuff legends are made of....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 4:42:25 GMT -5
Haha, guess there's two of us ;-) come on in Q, the water's fine :-)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 8:15:31 GMT -5
“According to Vedanta, there are only two symptoms of enlightenment, just two indications that a transformation is taking place within you toward a higher consciousness. The first symptom is that you stop worrying. Things don't bother you anymore. You become light-hearted and full of joy. The second symptom is that you encounter more and more meaningful coincidences in your life, more and more synchronicities. And this accelerates to the point where you actually experience the miraculous.” ? Deepak Chopra
“Love has no meaning without understanding" ? Thich Nhat Hanh
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 8:17:18 GMT -5
“According to Vedanta, there are only two symptoms of enlightenment, just two indications that a transformation is taking place within you toward a higher consciousness. The first symptom is that you stop worrying. Things don't bother you anymore. You become light-hearted and full of joy. The second symptom is that you encounter more and more meaningful coincidences in your life, more and more synchronicities. And this accelerates to the point where you actually experience the miraculous.” ? Deepak Chopra “Love has no meaning without understanding" ? Thich Nhat Hanh There is no “pushing” through illusion. It needs to naturally lift by virtue of your rising awareness, the way early morning fog lifts with the mid-morning sun. Attachment is the identification of the self to objects of experience due to ignorance of your true nature. As your self-realization increases your attachment will decrease. Be easy and patient with yourself during the process. -Chopra
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 10:57:22 GMT -5
Yes, of course, the point is that you "believe" it exists whether it can be named or not... Believe... No. Know.... Yes. Of course that isn't the "know" you think it is.... Believe.... No. is a belief... Know... Yes. is a belief... Of course that isn't the "know" you think it is.... is a belief...
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Post by serpentqueen on Aug 6, 2013 11:01:10 GMT -5
Believe... No. Know.... Yes. Of course that isn't the "know" you think it is.... Believe.... No. is a belief... Know... Yes. is a belief... Of course that isn't the "know" you think it is.... is a belief... Belief is an anagram for Be Life.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 11:07:20 GMT -5
Believe.... No. is a belief... Know... Yes. is a belief... Of course that isn't the "know" you think it is.... is a belief... Belief is an anagram for Be Life. It's also an anagram for 'FBI eel'...
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