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Post by laughter on Feb 9, 2016 1:24:53 GMT -5
ok, now you're just being silly, but I do look forward to "gopal's" resurrection .. especially if you maintain this multi at the same time. ha ha ha ha ha , why do I need to maintain the multi at all when Gopal comes? I am different person, so i do not need to. We both can appear on the screen.
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Post by Theodore on Feb 9, 2016 1:26:23 GMT -5
If you indulge my party pooping, I remember in a book referring to a talk invitation he got from a village, and how he will talk about devotion only, in the spirit of avoiding the fate of Christ No, good point I remember reading that too, though I don't think it's in "I AM THAT" (could be wrong), I think someone just posted it. I didn't mean to imply that Niz always thought he was evoking violence or that he didn't sometimes care that he might. The point is, he was practically aware of it. He knows it's there, and I suspect he feels it periodically throughout his guru life, throwing fits as to the ways this existence sucks from time to time. Perfectly reasonable ones, too. On an unrelated note, violence is all that can be known. Violence is all I experience. If I don't experience it, it's not in conflict with something else in my experience (for the time being). Or the background of it. Everything is at war, as long as there are things.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 1:27:00 GMT -5
ha ha ha ha ha , why do I need to maintain the multi at all when Gopal comes? I am different person, so i do not need to. We both can appear on the screen. Dude, what else can I do to make you believe that I am not Gopal? I don't understand, You are such an intelligent person but you too get deceived like others is what made me wonder!!
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Post by laughter on Feb 9, 2016 1:28:33 GMT -5
No, good point I remember reading that too, though I don't think it's in "I AM THAT" (could be wrong), I think someone just posted it. I didn't mean to imply that Niz always thought he was evoking violence or that he didn't sometimes care that he might. The point is, he was practically aware of it. He knows it's there, and I suspect he feels it periodically throughout his guru life, throwing fits as to the ways this existence sucks from time to time. Perfectly reasonable ones, too. On an unrelated note, violence is all that can be known. Violence is all I experience. If I don't experience it, it's not in conflict with something else in my experience (for the time being). Or the background of it. Everything is at war, as long as there are things. If I'm not mistaken I think Buddha once said something along the lines of "the world is on fire" .. but dude, the flamethrowers are always optional.
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Post by laughter on Feb 9, 2016 1:29:28 GMT -5
Dude, what else can I do to make you believe that I am not Gopal? I don't understand, You are such an intelligent person but you too get deceived like others is what made me wonder!! You seriously want me to argue with you about this?
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Post by Theodore on Feb 9, 2016 1:30:10 GMT -5
The point is, he was practically aware of it. He knows it's there, and I suspect he feels it periodically throughout his guru life, throwing fits as to the ways this existence sucks from time to time. Perfectly reasonable ones, too. On an unrelated note, violence is all that can be known. Violence is all I experience. If I don't experience it, it's not in conflict with something else in my experience (for the time being). Or the background of it. Everything is at war, as long as there are things. If I'm not mistaken I think Buddha once said something along the lines of "the world is on fire" .. but dude, the flamethrowers are always optional. For whom?
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Post by laughter on Feb 9, 2016 1:35:14 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken I think Buddha once said something along the lines of "the world is on fire" .. but dude, the flamethrowers are always optional. For whom? anyone and everyone!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 1:42:14 GMT -5
Dude, what else can I do to make you believe that I am not Gopal? I don't understand, You are such an intelligent person but you too get deceived like others is what made me wonder!! You seriously want me to argue with you about this? Okay, let's not argue about that, let Gopal arrive, we would talk after that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 2:06:34 GMT -5
Then you are agreeing with the stability of our world. That's what I have pointed out to Enigma, He believes universe is being created this movement including the past. If we consider this way, then our physical reality is no more different than our nightly dream. The main reason they seem different is because you've awoken from one and not the other. I understand both are dreams, but they both works in different way.
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Post by laughter on Feb 9, 2016 2:26:40 GMT -5
You seriously want me to argue with you about this? Okay, let's not argue about that, let Gopal arrive, we would talk after that. Wise choice.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 2:33:39 GMT -5
Okay, let's not argue about that, let Gopal arrive, we would talk after that. Wise choice. Yes, I hope he would return in near future, I am expecting him a lot to have such good conversation.
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Post by zin on Feb 9, 2016 2:59:15 GMT -5
Right, and you can use your sand crawler to, like...haul rocks...and stuff...whatever... boring dude ... how 'bout I park it right outside a village and just stare down at the tents and the goats for a few days? days?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 4:53:36 GMT -5
i just came across this quote of adolf hitler "The very first essential for success," Hitler once said, "is a perpetually constant and regular employment of violence" seemed appropriate here. however, i would like to say that, even though astral violence (like posession and such-or mental-sexual attacks by means of fantasising on somebody) and even mental violence are serious, physical violence is far more serious. And it seems to me putting them on equal footing is not correct. Unless it were to eradicate all forms of violence--that would mean physical immortality, shapeshift qualities and such. We still are some way away from that. From Mein Kamp: "A lie repeated a thousand times becomes the truth". i saw ´´Minha Luta´´ a hour ago (Mein Kampf) stacked, brand new edition, in a small portuguese kiosk-bookshop...i was stunned, i must say...like...´´did i really see that´´? wonder who gets the copyright proceeds.Read parts of it, or rather, quotes. The thing is at the time nobody took him seriously, too crazy, too outrageous, but he apparently actually carried out everything he said he would do if he got in power.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 5:00:44 GMT -5
Does a certain sickness de-valuate the speaker/writer as such? What about Stephen Hawking? And what about your mind, Laughter? How can you (and I) be sure YOU have a healthy mind? Do you have any prove for that? Let me see, please. stephen hawking is one of those highly overrated mathemagicians that that tell us that somehow, inexplicably, infinity has a beginning and an end. math now has calculated 4 types of black holes. Unfortunatley they cannot exist simultanuously, and they can not exist in a big bang universe, which shows us that that high math is just another form of daydreaming about existence and proves nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 5:09:50 GMT -5
Right, well, ok, how can a flexible set of beliefs not result in a dogmatism? Think of the reed/Oak parable. What it leads to in the end, is the self-deception that because we're open to them changing, that they're really not a set of fixed beliefs. The fact that scientists are the new high priests of our civilization is about the best example of one movement creating it's opposite that I can think of. Science is about skepticism, and we have faith in it's results because of how well they agree with what is observed. Flexibility of belief means knowing that beliefs will change over time, might be proved wrong, and will change according to evidence. Fixed beliefs mean beliefs that stay the same. As Dawkins put it "Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence." We only say science is 'priesthood' because because it replaced the church as the institution most associated with knowledge. since you quote Dawkins--on belief no less--i counter with ´´it takes a whole lot more belief to say that all is accidental, than to presume some kind of intelligence behind creation´´.
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