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Post by laughter on Feb 25, 2015 10:39:03 GMT -5
what you are is only the sum of all that you are not Nah, I ain't the result of an integrative function, .. butt .. there is a sort of inflection point to neti-neti where "I am none of this" expresses the exact same gnosis as "I am all of this".
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Post by laughter on Feb 25, 2015 10:57:49 GMT -5
What you are not is a reflection of what you are that is not .... rather than is . I would say one would have to ascertain why one is, or is why one is not . 1) 'you are' in respect to 'you aren't'
2) on the contrary
right ... I mean, what idea would that be, I wonders, anyways??
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Post by laughter on Feb 25, 2015 11:00:22 GMT -5
Have you heard the quote which goes something like, in wisdom I am nothing and in love I am everything, and between these two I move.? Can't say I have exactly, but I do understand the reasoning behind such a quote . There is a reflection had based on what they relate themselves to be with love and wisdom . Wisdom, for the guy who said that, is knowing what you're not.
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Post by enigma on Feb 25, 2015 22:10:17 GMT -5
what you are is only the sum of all that you are not Nah, I ain't the result of an integrative function, .. butt .. there is a sort of inflection point to neti-neti where "I am none of this" expresses the exact same gnosis as "I am all of this". To be everything is to be no-thing.
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Post by laughter on Feb 25, 2015 23:40:04 GMT -5
Nah, I ain't the result of an integrative function, .. butt .. there is a sort of inflection point to neti-neti where "I am none of this" expresses the exact same gnosis as "I am all of this". To be everything is to be no-thing. Careful you'll confuse the literalists.
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Post by enigma on Feb 26, 2015 0:02:05 GMT -5
To be everything is to be no-thing. Careful you'll confuse the literalists. Tell me about it.
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Post by laughter on Feb 26, 2015 0:17:27 GMT -5
Careful you'll confuse the literalists. Tell me about it. I'd have to call you on the phone to do that.
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Post by zin on Feb 26, 2015 3:49:11 GMT -5
"It is a clear cut distinction between two points of self awareness had in relation to what you are"... I don't have a guess about how it would be after such a realization. There are accounts, yes, but I don't know. Are you saying that you have realized that what you are is all that is? My current idea is I am not so (but I must say that there is some 'lessening of boundaries'). If you say yes, how are your days passing? To me it sounds like saying "there isn't anything other than me" and then it sounds like there will be no surprises.. I mean you will be knowing everything?! Probably a wrong idea, but you also said "I see reflections in relationships".. This means 'reflections of yourself', right? Are you saying you don't know what reflection you will see when you meet someone for your job for example, but it will still be 'your' reflection? I am curious about all those things. Thanks for the answers. I have realized that there is only what you are . Stands only to reason that 'all that is', can only be what you are . When there is no mind to entertain a self full of reflections there is only what you are . Tis like being alone with your thoughts after a monkey mind drunken stupor . The moment one entertains stillness and quietness one can gather their thoughts, away from the hustle of the drama's that be . Realizing what you are is similar in some respect . When you have gone beyond the hustle and bustle of the mind, there is only what you are and nothing else . When one becomes aware of a realization had, one for use of a better word takes that understanding forward, forward into every other life experience had . That is why one has the impression thereafter that what you are is the tree, and what one makes of the tree or the sun is in reflection of self . I love the sun, I love beer, but hate the rain (only as an example) will simply reflect on some level how one relates themselves by a reflection of the sun, beer, the rain . Some might say I don't give a monkey's ar$e what the rain means to me or anyone else, and yet that too is a reflection relating to themselves . Relationships are the exact same reflection as above, what you don't like about others reflects upon the self . Its not the very same active reflection as in my partner is a bully so when I notice the bullying that makes me a bully also but it does takes one to know one if you get my meaning . Some can see the love in others no matter what they do . Some only see the love in others that are kind and selfless . Realizing that what you are is all that is doesn't mean there are no surprises but there is an understanding had of such surprises . In other words one understands there is no outside source that is responsible . The job interview reflection is the same as any other reflection for any reflection is a self reflection . (obviously 'self' is a term that many cannot agree terms on) lols . Whatever you think about in any shape or form will be in reflection of self . Thanks! I don't have much head to say anything today (tired). Only, you said few days ago: "When one is of that realization (and this applies only to those that entertain the mind) will then perceive everything in the same light" and I was curious about, what applies only to those that entertain the mind? I forgot to ask at that time, but it isn't something that will change meaning of what you wrote later, it seems. To me, 'Self' looks like a sea and 'mind' looks like sea shells in it. I heard that comparisons do not tell much, I just don't understand anything So will stop (asking) for some time Thanks again.
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Post by tenka on Feb 26, 2015 3:59:48 GMT -5
Can't say I have exactly, but I do understand the reasoning behind such a quote . There is a reflection had based on what they relate themselves to be with love and wisdom . Wisdom, for the guy who said that, is knowing what you're not. That's definitely one way of looking at it .
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Post by tenka on Feb 26, 2015 4:00:22 GMT -5
I have realized that there is only what you are . Stands only to reason that 'all that is', can only be what you are . When there is no mind to entertain a self full of reflections there is only what you are . Tis like being alone with your thoughts after a monkey mind drunken stupor . The moment one entertains stillness and quietness one can gather their thoughts, away from the hustle of the drama's that be . Realizing what you are is similar in some respect . When you have gone beyond the hustle and bustle of the mind, there is only what you are and nothing else . When one becomes aware of a realization had, one for use of a better word takes that understanding forward, forward into every other life experience had . That is why one has the impression thereafter that what you are is the tree, and what one makes of the tree or the sun is in reflection of self . I love the sun, I love beer, but hate the rain (only as an example) will simply reflect on some level how one relates themselves by a reflection of the sun, beer, the rain . Some might say I don't give a monkey's ar$e what the rain means to me or anyone else, and yet that too is a reflection relating to themselves . Relationships are the exact same reflection as above, what you don't like about others reflects upon the self . Its not the very same active reflection as in my partner is a bully so when I notice the bullying that makes me a bully also but it does takes one to know one if you get my meaning . Some can see the love in others no matter what they do . Some only see the love in others that are kind and selfless . Realizing that what you are is all that is doesn't mean there are no surprises but there is an understanding had of such surprises . In other words one understands there is no outside source that is responsible . The job interview reflection is the same as any other reflection for any reflection is a self reflection . (obviously 'self' is a term that many cannot agree terms on) lols . Whatever you think about in any shape or form will be in reflection of self . Thanks! I don't have much head to say anything today (tired). Only, you said few days ago: "When one is of that realization (and this applies only to those that entertain the mind) will then perceive everything in the same light" and I was curious about, what applies only to those that entertain the mind? I forgot to ask at that time, but it isn't something that will change meaning of what you wrote later, it seems. To me, 'Self' looks like a sea and 'mind' looks like sea shells in it. I heard that comparisons do not tell much, I just don't understand anything So will stop (asking) for some time Thanks again. I would say the realization it's self is beyond mind so when one perceives after the realization their understanding thus forth will be mindful at that point onward . So what I spoke of only relates to those that entertain the mind after the realization is had . Seeing everything in the same light reflects something to see and one can only perceive something in or of the mind . Thanks for you thoughts .
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Post by zin on Feb 26, 2015 4:04:50 GMT -5
Thanks! I don't have much head to say anything today (tired). Only, you said few days ago: "When one is of that realization (and this applies only to those that entertain the mind) will then perceive everything in the same light" and I was curious about, what applies only to those that entertain the mind? I forgot to ask at that time, but it isn't something that will change meaning of what you wrote later, it seems. To me, 'Self' looks like a sea and 'mind' looks like sea shells in it. I heard that comparisons do not tell much, I just don't understand anything So will stop (asking) for some time Thanks again. I would say the realization it's self is beyond mind so when one perceives after the realization their understanding thus forth will be mindful at that point onward . So what I spoke of only relates to those that entertain the mind after the realization is had .Seeing everything in the same light reflects something to see and one can only perceive something in or of the mind . Thanks for you thoughts . OK, I understand now.
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Post by laughter on Feb 26, 2015 10:56:43 GMT -5
I have realized that there is only what you are . Stands only to reason that 'all that is', can only be what you are . When there is no mind to entertain a self full of reflections there is only what you are . Tis like being alone with your thoughts after a monkey mind drunken stupor . The moment one entertains stillness and quietness one can gather their thoughts, away from the hustle of the drama's that be . Realizing what you are is similar in some respect . When you have gone beyond the hustle and bustle of the mind, there is only what you are and nothing else . When one becomes aware of a realization had, one for use of a better word takes that understanding forward, forward into every other life experience had . That is why one has the impression thereafter that what you are is the tree, and what one makes of the tree or the sun is in reflection of self . I love the sun, I love beer, but hate the rain (only as an example) will simply reflect on some level how one relates themselves by a reflection of the sun, beer, the rain . Some might say I don't give a monkey's ar$e what the rain means to me or anyone else, and yet that too is a reflection relating to themselves . Relationships are the exact same reflection as above, what you don't like about others reflects upon the self . Its not the very same active reflection as in my partner is a bully so when I notice the bullying that makes me a bully also but it does takes one to know one if you get my meaning . Some can see the love in others no matter what they do . Some only see the love in others that are kind and selfless . Realizing that what you are is all that is doesn't mean there are no surprises but there is an understanding had of such surprises . In other words one understands there is no outside source that is responsible . The job interview reflection is the same as any other reflection for any reflection is a self reflection . (obviously 'self' is a term that many cannot agree terms on) lols . Whatever you think about in any shape or form will be in reflection of self . Thanks! I don't have much head to say anything today (tired). Only, you said few days ago: "When one is of that realization (and this applies only to those that entertain the mind) will then perceive everything in the same light" and I was curious about, what applies only to those that entertain the mind? I forgot to ask at that time, but it isn't something that will change meaning of what you wrote later, it seems. To me, 'Self' looks like a sea and 'mind' looks like sea shells in it. I heard that comparisons do not tell much, I just don't understand anything So will stop (asking) for some time Thanks again. Please, ask questions whenever the impulse occurs!
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Post by zin on Feb 26, 2015 13:51:22 GMT -5
Thanks! I don't have much head to say anything today (tired). Only, you said few days ago: "When one is of that realization (and this applies only to those that entertain the mind) will then perceive everything in the same light" and I was curious about, what applies only to those that entertain the mind? I forgot to ask at that time, but it isn't something that will change meaning of what you wrote later, it seems. To me, 'Self' looks like a sea and 'mind' looks like sea shells in it. I heard that comparisons do not tell much, I just don't understand anything So will stop (asking) for some time Thanks again. Please, ask questions whenever the impulse occurs! It is a luxury really.
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Post by laughter on Feb 26, 2015 13:55:23 GMT -5
Please, ask questions whenever the impulse occurs! It is a luxury really. In terms of time and energy? Or do you mean in some other sense?
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Post by zin on Feb 26, 2015 14:36:35 GMT -5
In terms of time and energy? Or do you mean in some other sense? (I am curious about whether the avatars will appear)If you are asking, luxury about 'getting info easily' (saving time & energy), no, not in that sense. For me it's more about peeps' (T included) being a mirror (or something like that).
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