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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 8:46:06 GMT -5
This one made me laugh. ...but I really cannot argue with it. Thoughts? It becomes I'm-more-in-alignment-with-Source-than-thou. Rinse repeat.
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Post by figgles on Oct 2, 2014 10:52:32 GMT -5
This one made me laugh. ...but I really cannot argue with it. Thoughts? It becomes I'm-more-in-alignment-with-Source-than-thou. Rinse repeat. hehe...unless it doesn't. I've heard them spout similar quotes when addressing questions re; various religions and spiritual camps...so I suspect that one above arose within that type of conversation, not so much as a suggestion that folks should compare the quality of experience they are having to the quality of experience another is having, in a competitive sort of way...they actually say that even the most back-wards appearing religion has merit, if the beliefs inherent within it serve the believer in a way that causes them to experience a greater sense of well-being, ease...joy. They use the amount of joy and other 'positive' feelings experienced, as the measure of 'success' in life, rather than the idea of coming to see some very specific things about the nature of reality as being 'true' or 'false.' I've heard them say that it doesn't matter how or why the joy is arising, so long as it is....that none of the particulars of what they talk about needs to be grasped, so long as one is good at 'forking' focus into the right direction. Therefore, they would deem someone who believes in an all loving, white bearded, man called God who watches over, peeking through the clouds, whose believed presence affords them an abundance of joy and a minimum of sorrow, anger and emotional pain, to be more 'successful' in terms of a life lived well, than someone who has realized that he is not a person, is not the doer, experiencer....that there is no God who cares one way of the other about the person, that there is no separation, but who rarely experiences emotions on the higher end of the scale, with lots of dips into the lower end.
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Post by laughter on Oct 2, 2014 16:25:28 GMT -5
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Post by laughter on Oct 2, 2014 16:57:55 GMT -5
Everyone is always "resting in that energy of perfection" but few realize it. The whisper is sometimes what garners the most attention in a noisy room.
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Post by enigma on Oct 3, 2014 2:22:39 GMT -5
It becomes I'm-more-in-alignment-with-Source-than-thou. Rinse repeat. hehe...unless it doesn't. I've heard them spout similar quotes when addressing questions re; various religions and spiritual camps...so I suspect that one above arose within that type of conversation, not so much as a suggestion that folks should compare the quality of experience they are having to the quality of experience another is having, in a competitive sort of way...they actually say that even the most back-wards appearing religion has merit, if the beliefs inherent within it serve the believer in a way that causes them to experience a greater sense of well-being, ease...joy. They use the amount of joy and other 'positive' feelings experienced, as the measure of 'success' in life, rather than the idea of coming to see some very specific things about the nature of reality as being 'true' or 'false.' I've heard them say that it doesn't matter how or why the joy is arising, so long as it is....that none of the particulars of what they talk about needs to be grasped, so long as one is good at 'forking' focus into the right direction. Therefore, they would deem someone who believes in an all loving, white bearded, man called God who watches over, peeking through the clouds, whose believed presence affords them an abundance of joy and a minimum of sorrow, anger and emotional pain, to be more 'successful' in terms of a life lived well, than someone who has realized that he is not a person, is not the doer, experiencer....that there is no God who cares one way of the other about the person, that there is no separation, but who rarely experiences emotions on the higher end of the scale, with lots of dips into the lower end. It doesn't matter what the believer does, the high dips and low dips all balance out in the end. Nobody gets to be happier than anybody else, though some may lead more dramatic lives than others. That still doesn't make them happier.
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Post by Reefs on Oct 11, 2014 10:21:31 GMT -5
"People believe that negative emotion is bad. And we want to say: negative emotion is not bad and positive emotion is not good. Both negative emotion and positive emotion are indicators of your vibrational standing."
A-H
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Post by laughter on Oct 11, 2014 10:30:48 GMT -5
"People believe that negative emotion is bad. And we want to say: negative emotion is not bad and positive emotion is not good. Both negative emotion and positive emotion are indicators of your vibrational standing." A-H Case Closed!
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Post by andrew on Oct 11, 2014 10:42:15 GMT -5
"People believe that negative emotion is bad. And we want to say: negative emotion is not bad and positive emotion is not good. Both negative emotion and positive emotion are indicators of your vibrational standing." A-H That's correct. If our vibrational standing is one of Peace, Joy, Love, Freedom (number one on the emotional scale), then positive emotion will be the clue of that. Negative emotion tells us that we are out of alignment with our source. (speaking in Abe language there) Nowhere does Abe-Hicks state that joy has to yingyang with depression and misery. Nowhere do they state that we have to yingyang between 1 and 20.
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Post by figgles on Oct 11, 2014 10:57:37 GMT -5
"People believe that negative emotion is bad. And we want to say: negative emotion is not bad and positive emotion is not good. Both negative emotion and positive emotion are indicators of your vibrational standing." A-H " There is only one stream, and that is the stream of well-being. Judgement that sees wrongness, even wrongness in negative emotion itself, indicates a momentary paddling upstream. All emotions that fall below well-being on the emotional guidance scale, are merely indicators that you have been pinched off to some degree from the stream of well-being, momentarily pinched off from the ever, un-fluctuating goodness of Source." AH "There is only one stream that flows. And that is the stream of well-being. Just as there is no actual source of Darkness, no switch in a room that you can flip, that is labelled, "dark", but rather, only varying degrees of an absence of light, there is no actual source of discord or feeling bad. The degree to which you feel good or feel bad is simply the degree to which you are either aligned, or pinched off from the well-being of your Source. " AH
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Post by tzujanli on Oct 12, 2014 8:47:23 GMT -5
"People believe that negative emotion is bad. And we want to say: negative emotion is not bad and positive emotion is not good. Both negative emotion and positive emotion are indicators of your vibrational standing." A-H " There is only one stream, and that is the stream of well-being. Judgement that sees wrongness, even wrongness in negative emotion itself, indicates a momentary paddling upstream. All emotions that fall below well-being on the emotional guidance scale, are merely indicators that you have been pinched off to some degree from the stream of well-being, momentarily pinched off from the ever, un-fluctuating goodness of Source." AH "There is only one stream that flows. And that is the stream of well-being. Just as there is no actual source of Darkness, no switch in a room that you can flip, that is labelled, "dark", but rather, only varying degrees of an absence of light, there is no actual source of discord or feeling bad. The degree to which you feel good or feel bad is simply the degree to which you are either aligned, or pinched off from the well-being of your Source. " AH Source is neither 'good nor bad' those are expressions of desirability.. 'source' IS, then people conjure their beliefs about what 'source' IS..
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Post by figgles on Oct 12, 2014 11:16:30 GMT -5
" There is only one stream, and that is the stream of well-being. Judgement that sees wrongness, even wrongness in negative emotion itself, indicates a momentary paddling upstream. All emotions that fall below well-being on the emotional guidance scale, are merely indicators that you have been pinched off to some degree from the stream of well-being, momentarily pinched off from the ever, un-fluctuating goodness of Source." AH "There is only one stream that flows. And that is the stream of well-being. Just as there is no actual source of Darkness, no switch in a room that you can flip, that is labelled, "dark", but rather, only varying degrees of an absence of light, there is no actual source of discord or feeling bad. The degree to which you feel good or feel bad is simply the degree to which you are either aligned, or pinched off from the well-being of your Source. " AH Source is neither 'good nor bad' those are expressions of desirability.. 'source' IS, then people conjure their beliefs about what 'source' IS.. Yes, AH definitely DO seem to attribute goodness to Source through equating positive feelings felt through experience with either alignment with, or pinching off from Source. But, I've also heard quotes of theirs where they speak of Source simply being the energy of life itself....as though Source is without quality.
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Post by Reefs on Oct 12, 2014 20:51:27 GMT -5
Source is neither 'good nor bad' those are expressions of desirability.. 'source' IS, then people conjure their beliefs about what 'source' IS.. Yes, AH definitely DO seem to attribute goodness to Source through equating positive feelings felt through experience with either alignment with, or pinching off from Source. But, I've also heard quotes of theirs where they speak of Source simply being the energy of life itself....as though Source is without quality. Why don't you post one of those?
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Post by Reefs on Oct 26, 2014 20:13:54 GMT -5
"When you tap into who you really are, good things happen. Sometimes people think that teachers, like Abraham, are wanting you to just be so high-minded that you don’t think about petty things, and that, in doing so, you’ll feel better. But then, all those crummy things will keep happening to you, but you will just be so oblivious to them that you won’t notice the terrible life that you’re really living. In other words, you’ll sort of rise above the fray and you’ll just sort of bliss out and be happy, anyway. And we want to say to you, that cannot happen to you. If you will take the time to align to the Energy of your Well-Being, Well-Being has to come to you." A-H
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 20:27:45 GMT -5
"When you tap into who you really are, good things happen. Sometimes people think that teachers, like Abraham, are wanting you to just be so high-minded that you don’t think about petty things, and that, in doing so, you’ll feel better. But then, all those crummy things will keep happening to you, but you will just be so oblivious to them that you won’t notice the terrible life that you’re really living. In other words, you’ll sort of rise above the fray and you’ll just sort of bliss out and be happy, anyway. And we want to say to you, that cannot happen to you. If you will take the time to align to the Energy of your Well-Being, Well-Being has to come to you." A-H Human Adulthood ~ circa.. Jed McKenna.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 20:30:34 GMT -5
Yes, AH definitely DO seem to attribute goodness to Source through equating positive feelings felt through experience with either alignment with, or pinching off from Source. But, I've also heard quotes of theirs where they speak of Source simply being the energy of life itself....as though Source is without quality. Why don't you post one of those? Open handed invitation... (Any closed fist will itself unfurl in presence)
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