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Post by enigma on Sept 5, 2014 22:16:48 GMT -5
And I said that's DWADilicious. Would you like to go around one more time?
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Post by enigma on Sept 5, 2014 22:25:51 GMT -5
There's a bit of the killjoy set-up going on here because while I can't disagree with your statement that "Oneness is not experiential", the mind hook on this is that it is the experiences of ideas, emotions and other stimuli that eventually point a peep toward "Oneness". So anyone who values devotion or service, or sees the nobility of suffering, and still is in the process of informing mind, has the potential to set you up in opposition, as figgles does here, to the wonder and the beauty that's available in every moment in the realization of the absence of separation. For many in the audience, it won't matter that what's really on offer in the subtext is a preservation of that separation. Well, I know she's setting me up as the killjoy cuz that's what she does, but I didn't really follow that.
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Post by figgles on Sept 6, 2014 0:03:09 GMT -5
There's a bit of the killjoy set-up going on here because while I can't disagree with your statement that "Oneness is not experiential", the mind hook on this is that it is the experiences of ideas, emotions and other stimuli that eventually point a peep toward "Oneness". So anyone who values devotion or service, or sees the nobility of suffering, and still is in the process of informing mind, has the potential to set you up in opposition, as figgles does here, to the wonder and the beauty that's available in every moment in the realization of the absence of separation. For many in the audience, it won't matter that what's really on offer in the subtext is a preservation of that separation. Well, I know she's setting me up as the killjoy cuz that's what she does, but I didn't really follow that. Yeah, I couldn't make heads nor tails or it either ....but, for what it's worth, I'm not setting you up as anything..at this point it seems the present conversation is a wrap.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 0:26:29 GMT -5
Well, I know she's setting me up as the killjoy cuz that's what she does, but I didn't really follow that. Yeah, I couldn't make heads nor tails or it either ....but, for what it's worth, I'm not setting you up as anything..at this point it seems the present conversation is a wrap. Minds struggle communicating as the Art of Communication hasn't yet been discovered.
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Post by sunshine on Sept 6, 2014 4:12:30 GMT -5
Yeah, I couldn't make heads nor tails or it either ....but, for what it's worth, I'm not setting you up as anything..at this point it seems the present conversation is a wrap. Minds struggle communicating as the Art of Communication hasn't yet been discovered. and the fierce and ferocious denial, ignorance, of BODY is the most stunning i read in these posts haha´´separation non existent´´--- unless they can shapeshift of course, then i lay prostrate at their ever shifting feet...
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Post by laughter on Sept 6, 2014 5:15:34 GMT -5
Perspective is entirely dependent on what it's on, and there's no attaching to an absence, only the imagination of attaching to the idea of it. Attachment to the trappings of individuation on the other hand, is as common as copper. Celebrating individuality is a far cry from being attached to the trappings of individuation. Attachment to the trappings results in neediness. What I"m suggesting with the term "celebrating individuality' happens when emotional needs fall away. Oh, so this celebration has nothing to do with emotion?
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Post by laughter on Sept 6, 2014 5:18:11 GMT -5
There's a bit of the killjoy set-up going on here because while I can't disagree with your statement that "Oneness is not experiential", the mind hook on this is that it is the experiences of ideas, emotions and other stimuli that eventually point a peep toward "Oneness". So anyone who values devotion or service, or sees the nobility of suffering, and still is in the process of informing mind, has the potential to set you up in opposition, as figgles does here, to the wonder and the beauty that's available in every moment in the realization of the absence of separation. For many in the audience, it won't matter that what's really on offer in the subtext is a preservation of that separation. Well, I know she's setting me up as the killjoy cuz that's what she does, but I didn't really follow that. Do you mean you didn't follow this or that you didn't follow her writing that was the set-up? My guess is that you didn't follow what I wrote, and if so that wouldn't surprise me. If that's the case, are you interested in a breakdown?
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Post by laughter on Sept 6, 2014 5:19:48 GMT -5
Well, I know she's setting me up as the killjoy cuz that's what she does, but I didn't really follow that. Yeah, I couldn't make heads nor tails or it either ....but, for what it's worth, I'm not setting you up as anything..at this point it seems the present conversation is a wrap. Oh yeah, the "laffy is a fortune cookie meme" . My guess is that you're probably unconscious of this pattern where you write soft and cloying humanistic prose, essentially as an indictment of clarity.
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Post by laughter on Sept 6, 2014 5:26:24 GMT -5
Yeah, I couldn't make heads nor tails or it either .... Not to mention that this makes a lie of your claim that you couldn't understand it. You might not like what it expresses, but you understood at least one part of it just fine.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 6:38:07 GMT -5
Minds struggle communicating as the Art of Communication hasn't yet been discovered. and the fierce and ferocious denial, ignorance, of BODY is the most stunning i read in these posts haha´´separation non existent´´--- unless they can shapeshift of course, then i lay prostrate at their ever shifting feet... Do you have a body that you can trust? Why would you want to be separate from it? Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 8:49:36 GMT -5
Oh yeah, the "laffy is a fortune cookie meme" .
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Post by Reefs on Sept 6, 2014 8:54:16 GMT -5
the cycles of water on earth are the same as they were before man ever walked it crash against rocks in wind under a steel grey sky lap against sunkist sand at the toes of the pleasure seekers flooding the canyons after sudden rain or just a steady flow of sweet freshness that gives life this repetition is soothing, not annoying it stirs in us a memory of what? of whom? of where? Hey, Sharon!
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Post by laughter on Sept 6, 2014 9:03:14 GMT -5
Oh yeah, the "laffy is a fortune cookie meme" .
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Post by Reefs on Sept 6, 2014 9:29:04 GMT -5
There's a bit of the killjoy set-up going on here because while I can't disagree with your statement that "Oneness is not experiential", the mind hook on this is that it is the experiences of ideas, emotions and other stimuli that eventually point a peep toward "Oneness". So anyone who values devotion or service, or sees the nobility of suffering, and still is in the process of informing mind, has the potential to set you up in opposition, as figgles does here, to the wonder and the beauty that's available in every moment in the realization of the absence of separation. For many in the audience, it won't matter that what's really on offer in the subtext is a preservation of that separation. Let the killjoy hearings begin...
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Post by enigma on Sept 6, 2014 9:42:54 GMT -5
Well, I know she's setting me up as the killjoy cuz that's what she does, but I didn't really follow that. Do you mean you didn't follow this or that you didn't follow her writing that was the set-up? My guess is that you didn't follow what I wrote, and if so that wouldn't surprise me. If that's the case, are you interested in a breakdown? Gnaw, lets let it go.
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