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Post by laughter on Sept 4, 2014 3:06:24 GMT -5
In spite of the obvious projection that was driving the content, it was recently pointed out that there are often interpretations of experience that intersect with the natural fear of death and suffering at having lost loved ones.
It's interesting and useful, in terms of self-honesty, to notice that when it arises. Anything that allays the fear of death or gives hope for recovering what's gone forever is worth investigating as potentially self-deceptive.
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Post by silver on Sept 4, 2014 7:53:53 GMT -5
In spite of the obvious projection that was driving the content, it was recently pointed out that there are often interpretations of experience that intersect with the natural fear of death and suffering at having lost loved ones. It's interesting and useful, in terms of self-honesty, to notice that when it arises. Anything that allays the fear of death or gives hope for recovering what's gone forever is worth investigating as potentially self-deceptive. I get what you're saying, but does it really have to do with the most recent posts? I don't see it, but I understand what you're saying.
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Post by sunshine on Sept 4, 2014 9:59:37 GMT -5
In spite of the obvious projection that was driving the content, it was recently pointed out that there are often interpretations of experience that intersect with the natural fear of death and suffering at having lost loved ones. It's interesting and useful, in terms of self-honesty, to notice that when it arises. Anything that allays the fear of death or gives hope for recovering what's gone forever is worth investigating as potentially self-deceptive. I get what you're saying, but does it really have to do with the most recent posts? I don't see it, but I understand what you're saying. it would not be very likely that these were the actual grandparents ´´souls´´, and L has a point-- what is interesting in itself ,even if the labeling was possibly biased(the fact that these kids had never seen a foto of these grandparents is not proof of anything, other than that they are-were connected to those who did know them)--)(we arent seperate entities-) is that there was apparently an intervening energy, a form of protection, if we are to believe that that bomb was indeed as powerful as is stated. this is tricky terrain John Kelly from Brooklyn,was an american GI of rank, in ww2, who at some point saw a man in a chair floating in front of him, saying, pointing ´´that way !´´, and was thus rescued with his platoon from a devastating german attack in which all who didnt follow him,died--the ´´ghost´´ appeared throughout the war to him after the war he thought he was ready for a mental clinic, as the ghhost kept following him around.Somehow, he ended up as a volunteer in the Sri Aurobindo society in New York. A few weeks before S.A left his body,he allowed someone to take some foto´s of him, there were no fotos of him taken since 35 years, as he would not allow it...Nobody really knew what he looked like, only very close disciples. Kelly was startled when he saw the foto of S.A. :´´that´s him., thats the ghost who guided me through the war!´´ i tend to take this story as true...I do not care too much about the technicalities of how and why, this is all just food for the mind, who likes to grind, grind, grind, and get boggled every now and then the idea that our grandparents float around out there looking just as they did just before they died, i find a bit silly, really--- i´ve seen ´´ghosts´´ many times, and they take different forms,appear in different ways. this whole video story here, the way it is told etc is very tendentious,..aiming for sensationalistic effect and a biased ´´result´´
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Post by silver on Sept 4, 2014 19:03:57 GMT -5
I get what you're saying, but does it really have to do with the most recent posts? I don't see it, but I understand what you're saying. it would not be very likely that these were the actual grandparents ´´souls´´, and L has a point-- what is interesting in itself ,even if the labeling was possibly biased(the fact that these kids had never seen a foto of these grandparents is not proof of anything, other than that they are-were connected to those who did know them)--)(we arent seperate entities-) is that there was apparently an intervening energy, a form of protection, if we are to believe that that bomb was indeed as powerful as is stated. this is tricky terrain John Kelly from Brooklyn,was an american GI of rank, in ww2, who at some point saw a man in a chair floating in front of him, saying, pointing ´´that way !´´, and was thus rescued with his platoon from a devastating german attack in which all who didnt follow him,died--the ´´ghost´´ appeared throughout the war to him after the war he thought he was ready for a mental clinic, as the ghhost kept following him around.Somehow, he ended up as a volunteer in the Sri Aurobindo society in New York. A few weeks before S.A left his body,he allowed someone to take some foto´s of him, there were no fotos of him taken since 35 years, as he would not allow it...Nobody really knew what he looked like, only very close disciples. Kelly was startled when he saw the foto of S.A. :´´that´s him., thats the ghost who guided me through the war!´´ i tend to take this story as true...I do not care too much about the technicalities of how and why, this is all just food for the mind, who likes to grind, grind, grind, and get boggled every now and then the idea that our grandparents float around out there looking just as they did just before they died, i find a bit silly, really--- i´ve seen ´´ghosts´´ many times, and they take different forms,appear in different ways. this whole video story here, the way it is told etc is very tendentious,..aiming for sensationalistic effect and a biased ´´result´´ I understand what you're saying. This is my latest post to the other forum on the thread that introduced the video: Although you thought it silly that people's grandparents and other ancestors are floating around 'waiting' to help out, I see no reason to reject the idea in totality, because for inexplicable and unknown reasons, there are a couple of my relatives that I've felt very strongly have visited from time to time. I realize it's 'baseless', but *shrug* there you have it, and I know I'm not alone in sensing these supposed visitations - not by a long shot.
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Post by figgles on Sept 4, 2014 19:33:42 GMT -5
I know I'm not alone in sensing these supposed visitations - not by a long shot. Nope, Not by a long shot.
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Post by sunshine on Sept 5, 2014 5:05:33 GMT -5
it would not be very likely that these were the actual grandparents ´´souls´´, and L has a point-- what is interesting in itself ,even if the labeling was possibly biased(the fact that these kids had never seen a foto of these grandparents is not proof of anything, other than that they are-were connected to those who did know them)--)(we arent seperate entities-) is that there was apparently an intervening energy, a form of protection, if we are to believe that that bomb was indeed as powerful as is stated. this is tricky terrain John Kelly from Brooklyn,was an american GI of rank, in ww2, who at some point saw a man in a chair floating in front of him, saying, pointing ´´that way !´´, and was thus rescued with his platoon from a devastating german attack in which all who didnt follow him,died--the ´´ghost´´ appeared throughout the war to him after the war he thought he was ready for a mental clinic, as the ghhost kept following him around.Somehow, he ended up as a volunteer in the Sri Aurobindo society in New York. A few weeks before S.A left his body,he allowed someone to take some foto´s of him, there were no fotos of him taken since 35 years, as he would not allow it...Nobody really knew what he looked like, only very close disciples. Kelly was startled when he saw the foto of S.A. :´´that´s him., thats the ghost who guided me through the war!´´ i tend to take this story as true...I do not care too much about the technicalities of how and why, this is all just food for the mind, who likes to grind, grind, grind, and get boggled every now and then the idea that our grandparents float around out there looking just as they did just before they died, i find a bit silly, really--- i´ve seen ´´ghosts´´ many times, and they take different forms,appear in different ways. this whole video story here, the way it is told etc is very tendentious,..aiming for sensationalistic effect and a biased ´´result´´ I understand what you're saying. This is my latest post to the other forum on the thread that introduced the video: Although you thought it silly that people's grandparents and other ancestors are floating around 'waiting' to help out, I see no reason to reject the idea in totality, because for inexplicable and unknown reasons, there are a couple of my relatives that I've felt very strongly have visited from time to time. I realize it's 'baseless', but *shrug* there you have it, and I know I'm not alone in sensing these supposed visitations - not by a long shot. sure, i feel my mother every now and then, now 3 years after she passed away...the silly part is that they waer the same old faces... there are angels out there, i think they, (or you do it subconsciously--more likely) take the shape that you will understand. a Hinduwill see Durga, godess of love, a christian will see Maria, a mathemathician will see fantastic formations of numbers or patterns, an artist will see fabulous colours--a musician hear heavenly music...and it will all be just the one same entity, or energy. if it is something of a lesser order, i just dont make too much of it, is it an old emotion being triggered? the mind can fool us really,very easily, i seen stuff looking totally real, yet a total illusion (like my ´´spiders´´ earlier in the thread). stay in the NOW.If you feel a guidance, and trust it, follow it,integrate it, it will certainly be of benefit to you and others--sometimes in stunning ways, ´´hitting 3 birds with one stone´´(or 5, like ishtahota once mentioned, unbelievable things,´´coincidences´´)... peace, a very pure love, pure light, are good indicators.Dreams are much more tricky, btw. --i do not think anymore too much about ´´who ´´ exactly is it...sometimes it is overwhelmingly a (former teacher) spirit i knew before--but that was a spirit who was conscious during life......sometimes a little lightblue lightpoint, superclear, with a little voice accompanying it, or sometimes the point is golden, it is better to trust the eyes, and the heart, because Voices can be very dangerous to just follow.
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