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Post by zin on Jun 29, 2018 21:05:45 GMT -5
"Peter Quince At The Clavier" by Wallace Stevens "Beauty is momentary in the mind-- The fitful tracing of a portal; But in the flesh, it is immortal." Poetry from the God of Football: [/div]
I don't watch these games but here I thought, wow, he passes the ball to himself! (I'm not even sure how it is expressed!)
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Post by laughter on Jun 30, 2018 0:21:55 GMT -5
"Peter Quince At The Clavier" by Wallace Stevens "Beauty is momentary in the mind-- The fitful tracing of a portal; But in the flesh, it is immortal." Poetry from the God of Football: I don't watch these games but here I thought, wow, he passes the ball to himself! (I'm not even sure how it is expressed!)
There's an American/British aphorism: "poetry in motion". The guy who owns this forum has (or at least had) a production company called "Poetry in Motion Films". Watching this I can definitely see how it got the 'pilgrim thinking about how athletes in the zone manage to somehow put themselves in an accelerated frame of space/time reference. There were a few times where the guy in the vid literally made the other dudes look like they were playing in slow motion relative to him.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2018 8:46:30 GMT -5
"Peter Quince At The Clavier" by Wallace Stevens "Beauty is momentary in the mind-- The fitful tracing of a portal; But in the flesh, it is immortal." Poetry from the God of Football: [/div] I don't watch these games but here I thought, wow, he passes the ball to himself! (I'm not even sure how it is expressed!)
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He is a madman, a lunatic with the ball. It's impossible to anticipate what he does because it comes from another place.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jun 30, 2018 15:23:24 GMT -5
I don't watch these games but here I thought, wow, he passes the ball to himself! (I'm not even sure how it is expressed!)
There's an American/British aphorism: "poetry in motion". The guy who owns this forum has (or at least had) a production company called "Poetry in Motion Films". Watching this I can definitely see how it got the 'pilgrim thinking about how athletes in the zone manage to somehow put themselves in an accelerated frame of space/time reference. There were a few times where the guy in the vid literally made the other dudes look like they were playing in slow motion relative to him. Yes, wonderful, thanks z for sharing that. (Now, that makes me want to look at highlights of Pele). #7 was a great goal, but with the others he went through 3 or 4 defenders, and #1 the goalie also.
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Post by zin on Jul 1, 2018 21:56:30 GMT -5
There's an American/British aphorism: "poetry in motion". The guy who owns this forum has (or at least had) a production company called "Poetry in Motion Films". Watching this I can definitely see how it got the 'pilgrim thinking about how athletes in the zone manage to somehow put themselves in an accelerated frame of space/time reference. There were a few times where the guy in the vid literally made the other dudes look like they were playing in slow motion relative to him. Yes, wonderful, thanks z for sharing that. (Now, that makes me want to look at highlights of Pele). #7 was a great goal, but with the others he went through 3 or 4 defenders, and #1 the goalie also. If the 'z' is for me, I only quoted zazeniac from the Poetry thread.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 2, 2018 16:13:58 GMT -5
Yes, wonderful, thanks z for sharing that. (Now, that makes me want to look at highlights of Pele). #7 was a great goal, but with the others he went through 3 or 4 defenders, and #1 the goalie also. If the 'z' is for me, I only quoted zazeniac from the Poetry thread. OK. I could say I was wrong...or I could say I was right.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 2, 2018 16:18:49 GMT -5
Yes, wonderful, thanks z for sharing that. (Now, that makes me want to look at highlights of Pele). #7 was a great goal, but with the others he went through 3 or 4 defenders, and #1 the goalie also. If the 'z' is for me, I only quoted zazeniac from the Poetry thread.
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Post by Reefs on Jul 3, 2018 5:47:36 GMT -5
I watched Russia vs. Spain, the entire game and when it was finally over I was thinking what a waste of time! Reminded me somewhat of these computer generated haikus. Just mechanics. They were just grinding it out. Yesterday I watched Brazil vs. Mexico and that was significantly different. There were signs of this exuberant spontaneity and playfulness again that seemed to be totally missing the other day. And when it was over, it didn't feel like a waste of time either. I guess what I am missing these days is a certain playfulness or 'lightness of being' (for lack of a better word) in soccer/football. To me, players who just enjoy themselves and their skills have always been a delight to watch. You can feel the magic in the air, an entire team having a group flow experience and everyone who is watching them as well. I remember Csikszentmihalyi mentioning this as well, how sports can be a very easy and powerful way to flow experience (or alignment, in A-H terms).
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 3, 2018 17:40:54 GMT -5
I watched Russia vs. Spain, the entire game and when it was finally over I was thinking what a waste of time! Reminded me somewhat of these computer generated haikus. Just mechanics. They were just grinding it out. Yesterday I watched Brazil vs. Mexico and that was significantly different. There were signs of this exuberant spontaneity and playfulness again that seemed to be totally missing the other day. And when it was over, it didn't feel like a waste of time either. I guess what I am missing these days is a certain playfulness or 'lightness of being' (for lack of a better word) in soccer/football. To me, players who just enjoy themselves and their skills have always been a delight to watch. You can feel the magic in the air, an entire team having a group flow experience and everyone who is watching them as well. I remember Csikszentmihalyi mentioning this as well, how sports can be a very easy and powerful way to flow experience (or alignment, in A-H terms). Yes, entirely agree. With Spain the goal was to win, holding the ball was a strategy, very boring. And it obviously didn't work. Dean Smith is virtually alone responsible for the shot clock in college basketball. In the old days there were some games when Carolina held the ball most of the game with a strategy called 4 corners, final scores some games ending in the low teens. Very boring games. But OTOH Japan lost their last game and was knocked out by choosing to continue to actively play after being ahead by 2 goals, lost 3-2.
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Post by laughter on Jul 4, 2018 3:49:04 GMT -5
I watched Russia vs. Spain, the entire game and when it was finally over I was thinking what a waste of time! Reminded me somewhat of these computer generated haikus. Just mechanics. They were just grinding it out. Yesterday I watched Brazil vs. Mexico and that was significantly different. There were signs of this exuberant spontaneity and playfulness again that seemed to be totally missing the other day. And when it was over, it didn't feel like a waste of time either. I guess what I am missing these days is a certain playfulness or 'lightness of being' (for lack of a better word) in soccer/football. To me, players who just enjoy themselves and their skills have always been a delight to watch. You can feel the magic in the air, an entire team having a group flow experience and everyone who is watching them as well. I remember Csikszentmihalyi mentioning this as well, how sports can be a very easy and powerful way to flow experience (or alignment, in A-H terms). Yes, entirely agree. With Spain the goal was to win, holding the ball was a strategy, very boring. And it obviously didn't work. Dean Smith is virtually alone responsible for the shot clock in college basketball. In the old days there were some games when Carolina held the ball most of the game with a strategy called 4 corners, final scores some games ending in the low teens. Very boring games. But OTOH Japan lost their last game and was knocked out by choosing to continue to actively play after being ahead by 2 goals, lost 3-2. He's only smiling like that 'cause Carolina's shot clock just went under 5.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 9:08:39 GMT -5
I watched Russia vs. Spain, the entire game and when it was finally over I was thinking what a waste of time! Reminded me somewhat of these computer generated haikus. Just mechanics. They were just grinding it out. Yesterday I watched Brazil vs. Mexico and that was significantly different. There were signs of this exuberant spontaneity and playfulness again that seemed to be totally missing the other day. And when it was over, it didn't feel like a waste of time either. I guess what I am missing these days is a certain playfulness or 'lightness of being' (for lack of a better word) in soccer/football. To me, players who just enjoy themselves and their skills have always been a delight to watch. You can feel the magic in the air, an entire team having a group flow experience and everyone who is watching them as well. I remember Csikszentmihalyi mentioning this as well, how sports can be a very easy and powerful way to flow experience (or alignment, in A-H terms). Yes, entirely agree. With Spain the goal was to win, holding the ball was a strategy, very boring. And it obviously didn't work. Dean Smith is virtually alone responsible for the shot clock in college basketball. In the old days there were some games when Carolina held the ball most of the game with a strategy called 4 corners, final scores some games ending in the low teens. Very boring games. But OTOH Japan lost their last game and was knocked out by choosing to continue to actively play after being ahead by 2 goals, lost 3-2. The Spanish game has suffered since 2010. They are getting long on the tooth. Iniesta is not what he used to be. Their attack is weak. I say nowadays their ball control is more to compensate for poor defense than for anything else. The Spanish game in 2010 was a thing of beauty. They passed as much, but their midfield and back would push up as well, creating massive problems for their opponent's defense. They can't anymore.
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Post by zin on Jul 4, 2018 16:10:46 GMT -5
If the 'z' is for me, I only quoted zazeniac from the Poetry thread. Nice! And tell me, what is that? (the vid, time arranged : )) *I was trying to empty my head and remembered that I used to watch some Cups while I was at high school.. remembered free kicks from there..
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Post by laughter on Jul 4, 2018 16:14:13 GMT -5
Yes, entirely agree. With Spain the goal was to win, holding the ball was a strategy, very boring. And it obviously didn't work. Dean Smith is virtually alone responsible for the shot clock in college basketball. In the old days there were some games when Carolina held the ball most of the game with a strategy called 4 corners, final scores some games ending in the low teens. Very boring games. But OTOH Japan lost their last game and was knocked out by choosing to continue to actively play after being ahead by 2 goals, lost 3-2. The Spanish game has suffered since 2010. They are getting long on the tooth. Iniesta is not what he used to be. Their attack is weak. I say nowadays their ball control is more to compensate for poor defense than for anything else. The Spanish game in 2010 was a thing of beauty. They passed as much, but their midfield and back would push up as well, creating massive problems for their opponent's defense. They can't anymore. There can be a sublime beauty to expressions of the defensive strategy as well though, and it's only one facet of the overarching notion of controlling the clock and the flow of the game -- and this is a general property of games overall. For instance, Army's football team is fun to watch because they almost never pass. It's a funny idea that they've made this conscious decision to use all four downs and keep it on the ground .. because, well, that's what the Army does. They also kick everyone's ass in the yearly drum line battles.
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Post by zin on Jul 4, 2018 16:19:45 GMT -5
I watched Russia vs. Spain, the entire game and when it was finally over I was thinking what a waste of time! Reminded me somewhat of these computer generated haikus. Just mechanics. They were just grinding it out. Yesterday I watched Brazil vs. Mexico and that was significantly different. There were signs of this exuberant spontaneity and playfulness again that seemed to be totally missing the other day. And when it was over, it didn't feel like a waste of time either. I guess what I am missing these days is a certain playfulness or 'lightness of being' (for lack of a better word) in soccer/football. To me, players who just enjoy themselves and their skills have always been a delight to watch. You can feel the magic in the air, an entire team having a group flow experience and everyone who is watching them as well. I remember Csikszentmihalyi mentioning this as well, how sports can be a very easy and powerful way to flow experience (or alignment, in A-H terms). Note to self: Probably I shouldn't have heard of another person about creativity but it's too late! (checked only a little yet)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 20:08:27 GMT -5
The Spanish game has suffered since 2010. They are getting long on the tooth. Iniesta is not what he used to be. Their attack is weak. I say nowadays their ball control is more to compensate for poor defense than for anything else. The Spanish game in 2010 was a thing of beauty. They passed as much, but their midfield and back would push up as well, creating massive problems for their opponent's defense. They can't anymore. There can be a sublime beauty to expressions of the defensive strategy as well though, and it's only one facet of the overarching notion of controlling the clock and the flow of the game -- and this is a general property of games overall. For instance, Army's football team is fun to watch because they almost never pass. It's a funny idea that they've made this conscious decision to use all four downs and keep it on the ground .. because, well, that's what the Army does. They also kick everyone's ass in the yearly drum line battles. 1972 Miami Dolphins
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