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Post by enigma on Aug 26, 2013 21:58:03 GMT -5
Greetings.. That's where it can be useful to question the assumption that you can be one of the 'things' that appears to you. This assumption is so deeply ingrained because we begin with the conviction 'I am the body/mind', and from there it seems obvious that 'I can be an appearance'. You can't actually find yourself as an appearance appearing to yourself. You don't ever appear. It doesn't matter how many fish appear in the barrel. You can't be any of them. This is a false representation.. i don't know anyone that limits their self-awareness to "I am the body/mind" I'm thinkin you don't get around much.
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Post by silver on Aug 26, 2013 21:59:33 GMT -5
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Post by silver on Aug 26, 2013 22:00:10 GMT -5
Greetings.. This is a false representation.. i don't know anyone that limits their self-awareness to "I am the body/mind" I'm thinkin you don't get around much. *shrug* I think it's the other way round.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 22:02:45 GMT -5
Try telling that to coma patients...heh They don't seem to have a response when I tell them... and then the nurse asks me who the hell I am and calls security. I get taken away in chains. I definitely don't recommend telling it to coma patients unless they are a relative or friend and you have a reason to be in the room. Well they probably consciously experienced the whole situation even though they were unconscious...hehe
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Post by enigma on Aug 26, 2013 22:04:11 GMT -5
if you do a little reading you'll see that both words "unconscious" (as in knocked out on the floor) and "the unconscious" (as in mind you are not aware of) both share a lack of conscious awareness. The terms are not completely arbitrary. In one everything is outside the conscious experience, and in the other certain aspects of the mind and psyche are outside the conscious experience. Try telling that to coma patients...heh Why would anyone try to do that?
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Post by enigma on Aug 26, 2013 22:06:46 GMT -5
Try telling that to coma patients...heh They don't seem to have a response when I tell them... and then the nurse asks me who the hell I am and calls security. I get taken away in chains. I definitely don't recommend telling it to coma patients unless they are a relative or friend and you have a reason to be in the room. I think TRF is trying to get us into trouble.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 22:10:31 GMT -5
Try telling that to coma patients...heh Why would anyone try to do that? Do what?...talk to a coma patient?...That's just silly...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 22:11:13 GMT -5
They don't seem to have a response when I tell them... and then the nurse asks me who the hell I am and calls security. I get taken away in chains. I definitely don't recommend telling it to coma patients unless they are a relative or friend and you have a reason to be in the room. I think TRF is trying to get us into trouble. I don't have to try...
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Post by enigma on Aug 26, 2013 22:37:25 GMT -5
I think TRF is trying to get us into trouble. I don't have to try... I don't either. It seems to be effortless effort.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 22:45:10 GMT -5
I don't have to try... I don't either. It seems to be effortless effort. Effortless effort is an oxymoron...troublemaker
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Post by enigma on Aug 26, 2013 23:01:08 GMT -5
I don't either. It seems to be effortless effort. Effortless effort is an oxymoron...troublemaker I think it's a self confirming oxymoron.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 23:08:58 GMT -5
Effortless effort is an oxymoron...troublemaker I think it's a self confirming oxymoron. More like conceiving instead of perceiving...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 23:28:30 GMT -5
I think it's a self confirming oxymoron. More like conceiving instead of perceiving... can somebody explain to me what semantics mean?
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Aug 27, 2013 4:59:53 GMT -5
My advice to you guys is to actually go educate yourselves about Freud and psychoanalysis. Until you do it is perhaps better to say nothing than put forth these embarrassing caricatures and thereby display your own ignorance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013 5:45:47 GMT -5
My advice to you guys is to actually go educate yourselves about Freud and psychoanalysis. Until you do it is perhaps better to say nothing than put forth these embarrassing caricatures and thereby display your own ignorance. I have found psychotherapy an meditation work hand in hand complimenting each other.
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