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Jul 29, 2013 10:57:50 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2013 10:57:50 GMT -5
That link I posted above is talking about one of those studies. Yep, 'Here and Now' is the timeless arena, whereas everything we associate with 'our lives' is just chemical reactions located somewhere inside the grey matter. I don't imagine "the past" even exists, except there is evidence right now that something must have happened 'back then', ie. poop confirms last night's dinner. ;-) Reads like you're saying memory isn't a function of consciousness. If it IS a function of consciousness, then it is not restricted to the cells of the body. These kinds of questions veer off into 'rabbit hole' stuff to me, I don't know what a "function of consciousness" is, or how or where such memories might be stored if not merely 'inside cells'. I sumpose there is an infinite intelligence which maybe has some momentum to it, but again, I don't know, nor want to spend too much time thinking about things I can't know.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2013 11:01:22 GMT -5
Reads like you're saying memory isn't a function of consciousness. If it IS a function of consciousness, then it is not restricted to the cells of the body. These kinds of questions veer off into 'rabbit hole' stuff to me, I don't know what a "function of consciousness" is, or how or where such memories might be stored if not merely 'inside cells'. I sumpose there is an infinite intelligence which maybe has some momentum to it, but again, I don't know, nor want to spend too much time thinking about things I can't know. There wasn't a question asked. If memory was simply stored in the cellular structure of body/brain, we'd be screwed when we die. I'm just saying that the possibility exists that memory is non-local.
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Jul 29, 2013 11:04:30 GMT -5
Post by serpentqueen on Jul 29, 2013 11:04:30 GMT -5
Reads like you're saying memory isn't a function of consciousness. If it IS a function of consciousness, then it is not restricted to the cells of the body. These kinds of questions veer off into 'rabbit hole' stuff to me, I don't know what a "function of consciousness" is, or how or where such memories might be stored if not merely 'inside cells'. I sumpose there is an infinite intelligence which maybe has some momentum to it, but again, I don't know, nor want to spend too much time thinking about things I can't know. Admittedly I didn't look at your link, but I will say this anyhow: any and all science is suspect because it starts with a question. If the scientists hypothesis is, "memory is contained in the cells" then they are going to find that memory is contained in the cells.
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Jul 29, 2013 11:07:02 GMT -5
Post by serpentqueen on Jul 29, 2013 11:07:02 GMT -5
These kinds of questions veer off into 'rabbit hole' stuff to me, I don't know what a "function of consciousness" is, or how or where such memories might be stored if not merely 'inside cells'. I sumpose there is an infinite intelligence which maybe has some momentum to it, but again, I don't know, nor want to spend too much time thinking about things I can't know. There wasn't a question asked. If memory was simply stored in the cellular structure of body/mind, we'd be screwed when we die. I'm just saying that the possibility exists that memory is non-local. thedaily.case.edu/news/?p=19233
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Jul 29, 2013 11:20:55 GMT -5
Post by laughter on Jul 29, 2013 11:20:55 GMT -5
I hereby formally denounce non-duality just so that I might be able to proclaim that this is 7 kinds of wrong all at once. You missed it. He had a black and white version of the picture with me face pasted over it. My "I'd tap that" tongue in cheek comment ain't funny to me no more now that he has switched pictures. *shakes fist* Curse you farmer! It was a context hop!
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Jul 29, 2013 11:22:28 GMT -5
Post by laughter on Jul 29, 2013 11:22:28 GMT -5
I hereby formally denounce non-duality just so that I might be able to proclaim that this is 7 kinds of wrong all at once. Life is ART! Thats why Shawn went into Film Making. Lets Get intooitInto that?
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Jul 29, 2013 11:22:29 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2013 11:22:29 GMT -5
There wasn't a question asked. If memory was simply stored in the cellular structure of body/brain, we'd be screwed when we die. I'm just saying that the possibility exists that memory is non-local. what does that mean?
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Jul 29, 2013 11:33:31 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2013 11:33:31 GMT -5
There wasn't a question asked. If memory was simply stored in the cellular structure of body/brain, we'd be screwed when we die. I'm just saying that the possibility exists that memory is non-local. what does that mean? I'm pointing at non-local again.
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Jul 29, 2013 11:36:03 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2013 11:36:03 GMT -5
There wasn't a question asked. If memory was simply stored in the cellular structure of body/mind, we'd be screwed when we die. I'm just saying that the possibility exists that memory is non-local. thedaily.case.edu/news/?p=19233Interesting read, SQ. While reading I found myself reflecting on the work of Wilder Penfield.
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Jul 29, 2013 12:14:55 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2013 12:14:55 GMT -5
Yes, a great many things interest me, 'time' and the functionality of the brain, being a small part of those inquiries. Not exactly 'rabbit hole' material if you ask me, but I see you are clinging tightly to some curious 'not-knowing' philosophy, and it appears you don't want to know anything. When you leave your house, you know/remember how to get home, correct? You learned the English alphabet, and some corresponding words .. that 'knowing' is useful, is it not? Farmer: What Steve is referring to is not "a philosophy of not-knowing." It is the ABSENCE of philosophizing. He's referring to direct body-knowing (gnossis) rather than intellectual (abstract linear discursive verbal reflective) knowing (episteme). He is advising people to suspend intellectual knowing in favor of direct perception. To live in a state of not-knowing, intellectually/psychologically, does not imply that the world is not known; it is simply not known through the mind. :-)
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Jul 29, 2013 12:28:05 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2013 12:28:05 GMT -5
That link I posted above is talking about one of those studies. Yep, 'Here and Now' is the timeless arena, whereas everything we associate with 'our lives' is just chemical reactions located somewhere inside the grey matter. I don't imagine "the past" even exists, except there is evidence right now that something must have happened 'back then', ie. poop confirms last night's dinner. ;-)When we say to "look like children do," it is in this way - with no preconceived notions whatsoever. Asking "is the cat alive" or "is the cat dead" is asking with a preconceived notion in mind. If we instead ask no question at all, if we can hold no expectation in our mind, reality begins to reveal itself. Time and space start doing funky things. And, it becomes apparent there is no perceiver and perceived, no observer and observed; :-)
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Jul 30, 2013 5:33:35 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2013 5:33:35 GMT -5
Life is ART! Thats why Shawn went into Film Making. Lets Get intooitInto that? the film
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