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Post by laughter on Oct 3, 2012 15:43:31 GMT -5
A sideless cube How does it stand? Without imploding?
There's a hug in there somewhere Look for a hug on the walls of a sidless cube Everyone can use one
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Post by silver on Oct 3, 2012 16:21:30 GMT -5
OHC por vous
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Post by silver on Oct 3, 2012 16:32:22 GMT -5
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Post by silver on Oct 3, 2012 16:33:12 GMT -5
If ya can't beat 'em - join 'em. ;D
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Post by silver on Oct 3, 2012 16:36:47 GMT -5
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Post by enigma on Oct 3, 2012 16:59:51 GMT -5
You come across as being a touch insensitive at times to me Phil (I'm not about to put myself forward for the most sensitive person award either). Maybe you don't mean to be but let's face it Silver isn't the first person to have an adverse reaction to your way with words. You're like a dog with a bone and it doesn't seem as though you care much about the bones feelings. Do you care about Silver's feelings? What have I said that is insensitive? I do care, but making her feel better is not my number one concern for her at the moment. Do you think it should be?
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Post by enigma on Oct 3, 2012 17:05:22 GMT -5
If ya can't beat 'em - join 'em. ;D To make sense out of it, I'd have to know what you imagine you're joining, and that's not very clear at the moment.
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Post by silver on Oct 3, 2012 17:19:45 GMT -5
If ya can't beat 'em - join 'em. ;D To make sense out of it, I'd have to know what you imagine you're joining, and that's not very clear at the moment. Oh, I don't mean a thing by it - just don't know what to put now that things are kind of a wreck here. So, I just put some funny pictures.
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Post by silver on Oct 3, 2012 17:23:27 GMT -5
sometimes the only response to another's grief is silence, a hug or an listening ear... a hug is definitely in order... anything else is superfluous... Appreciate it, charlie. I didn't even realize you'd posted anything in here until I was checking out the newbie.
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Post by silver on Oct 3, 2012 17:31:28 GMT -5
Speakin' of charlie, I guess in the back of my mind, I thought I'd get some respect because my thread was about poetry - albeit 'bad' poetry. I'm not charlie, so I figured there'd be some comments and that's perfectly okay. I want to take the very best - the cream of the belief system here away with me, to make my own. It would seem that many of us here are at a point where we could take turns 'shrinking' each other and I find that quite amusing. I don't mind all this stuff going on - it was a bit unexpected. What I do mind is the fact that Reefs had a hidden agenda - and Enigma was holding out on me / us, as well. And don't even try to tell me otherwise, E. I see it's become Reefsnigma now...
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Post by frankshank on Oct 3, 2012 17:56:56 GMT -5
You come across as being a touch insensitive at times to me Phil (I'm not about to put myself forward for the most sensitive person award either). Maybe you don't mean to be but let's face it Silver isn't the first person to have an adverse reaction to your way with words. You're like a dog with a bone and it doesn't seem as though you care much about the bones feelings. Do you care about Silver's feelings? What have I said that is insensitive? I do care, but making her feel better is not my number one concern for her at the moment. Do you think it should be? In general, I find it insensitive when you prod people incessantly. Even when it seems pretty clear that they're not enjoying the experience, you carry on regardless. IOW you don't know when to back off. Not everyone is here to wake up if they're being honest about it. There also seems to be a lack of empathy. You have a one size fits all approach which can come across as unsubtle. Silver seems quite quirky but you seem unable to adjust your approach to fit her personality. And if she doesn't like the hammer approach that's just tough. She's clearly sensitive about the subject matter and wanted to express herself with poetry in a similar way to Charlie's thread. What does she get? Reef making a reference to a pity party. That's way out of order in my book. And then you have a go about her wanting to have control over a thread. Just a bit of respect for the subject matter would have done.
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Post by esponja on Oct 3, 2012 18:17:29 GMT -5
darn and drats I couldn't stay away! In my defense, cabin fever!!! A break did me some good though. So just logged on and this was first thread I read. Silver, your poetry was lovely. I can not imagine loosing one of my kids, every mother's (parent's) worse dream. There's more I'd like to write but I don't think I have the right words. We do hold onto our stories, a loss of a child would be the hardest one to let go off. I in fact, don't believe I'd ever even want to. I'm glad for your feminine emotional flavour you bring here. In saying that, go back, perhaps in a day or two and look deeply at what Reefs was trying to say/do. It was from a place of love. However, Reefs and Enigma (he he you always get dragged in E), sometimes you guys need to realise that your words sound double dutch to most on the path. It's taken me a good year to understand a lot of it, so perhaps you can look at your ways of communicating more effectively? Silver, these guys really do care. I think that's why I come back here and miss the 'love' and understanding that is actually not always there outside of the forum (and don't get me wrong, I am surrounded by very loving people). Stay with it if you can as you might find something nice comes out of it x Hey Spongy, glad you dropped by. ;D I know it seems like there's a better way to talk about this stuff, and for some (like you) there is. As I see it, there's no way around the stories of the storyteller. No matter how you approach those stories, you're going to get more stories back because that's what storytellers do. The last time the grief issue came up, Top did his best to craft a gentle approach to her and even then there was confusion and hurt. When a discussion has some 'energy', at least there's the potential for seeing our own stories because they start to get pretty wacky. There's the potential for her to notice that she's upset by one of my posts and that she doesn't know what post or what upset her. There's the potential to notice that the story that Enigma and Reefs are suffering and feel like cr*p because of something they think she did has no foundation outside of her own imagination, but that she's using this story as "consolation" to make herself feel better. (At the expense of others) There's the potential to notice that the story about peeps being upset at her for causing Q to be banned is imagination on crack. All anybody can do is offer opportunities. There are no magic words that can make anybody look. I for one appreciated the approach (in the end), it has helped me in my life with all my stories, which is why I came here, although they relentlessly persist but perhaps with less energy now. You've even helped me see another one with what you just wrote. Underneath these stories there is peace. However, I think a loss of a child is different and perhaps requires a different approach, dunno. There's the added issue of the internet where one's tone can be misinterpreted. Anyway thought my post was quite nice, certainly didn't mean to offend anyone but went and lost me two Karma points so sometime for STFU and back to that break...lol!!! (I'm sure I'll still lurk).
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Post by esponja on Oct 3, 2012 18:21:21 GMT -5
That made me laugh! All the best to you Silver!
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Post by topology on Oct 3, 2012 18:26:29 GMT -5
Speakin' of charlie, I guess in the back of my mind, I thought I'd get some respect because my thread was about poetry - albeit 'bad' poetry. I'm not charlie, so I figured there'd be some comments and that's perfectly okay. I want to take the very best - the cream of the belief system here away with me, to make my own. It would seem that many of us here are at a point where we could take turns 'shrinking' each other and I find that quite amusing. I don't mind all this stuff going on - it was a bit unexpected. What I do mind is the fact that Reefs had a hidden agenda - and Enigma was holding out on me / us, as well. And don't even try to tell me otherwise, E. I see it's become Reefsnigma now... There is no belief system to take away from the forum. There is only the absence of belief. That absence is achieved in many ways, the natural aging process through life experience, intentional challenging of one's beliefs, assumptions and dispositions, immersion into non-belief (direct experience absent of thought), grace (luck), losing value in having beliefs or getting tired of the mental baggage, etc. I assume that the forum's agenda is becoming aware of the games we as egos play and includes the erosion of what we think of as ourselves (getting to a place of mental absence and lack of conception)... For those that do not make that assumption, this forum will be a bumpy ride. Silver, are you wanting to hear about the ego games you might be indulging in?
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Post by onehandclapping on Oct 3, 2012 18:40:00 GMT -5
How did you get over your mom's death? I ask because there might be some advice that you can give yourself in that explanation. The fish sticks I'm eating appear to have a different flavor than the chips I'm eating. Do they? Or is that just the thoughts popping up? Hmmm. I better check out by eating another chip. *crunch* Fish stick.... *crunch* Gotta say that they both taste.....mmmm mmmm gooooood!! You silly. My mom's death? It just seems like time was the only thing. Was it time or was there a shift in acceptance of what is? Or what "was" I should probably say.
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