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Maitreya The Friend
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Post by ifriend on Jun 30, 2011 17:59:54 GMT -5
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Post by therealfake on Jun 30, 2011 19:38:26 GMT -5
I started to watch it and realized that it would cut into my watching Wimbledon... So, I guess the only thing is, if he is saying something that hasn't been said a thousand times before, by a thousand different peeps in a thousand different ways... If I throw out all BS, as Max says, I'm left with being my own teacher, seeing the world as it really is, instead of eating off of somebody else's plate, and seeing it as someone else see's it... including the way "I" 'think' I see it... Otherwise my first impression is that he seems like a cool dude... ;D
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Post by enigma on Jun 30, 2011 23:29:04 GMT -5
I agree with not 'eating off someone else's plate' (It spreads germs. Hehe) but if the attitude is more open, it becomes a communion of Self with Self, and then it's not all BS.
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Post by therealfake on Jul 2, 2011 13:26:08 GMT -5
I agree with not 'eating off someone else's plate' (It spreads germs. Hehe) but if the attitude is more open, it becomes a communion of Self with Self, and then it's not all BS. It really doesn't matter if ones attitude is open or closed... What matters is dispelling the illusory nature of the mind's perceptions about the world. Like the dualistic concept of communion between selves that are really the only self... If that means seeing it all as BS, I'm for that...
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Post by therealfake on Jul 2, 2011 18:54:05 GMT -5
I mean the spiritual geek speak is... It's not the 'concept' of emptiness, or God, or a creator, or love, or the void, or the non conceptual, that's important, it's what that concept 'points' to... So there is the delusional attempt to know, what is unknowable by using meaningless pointing... And although we see a meaningless world, because of the 'minds' perceptions, we can lovingly rejoice in knowing... That God didn't create a meaningless world...
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Post by klaus on Jul 2, 2011 20:06:06 GMT -5
I mean the spiritual geek speak is... It's not the 'concept' of emptiness, or God, or a creator, or love, or the void, or the non conceptual, that's important, it's what that concept 'points' to... So there is the delusional attempt to know, what is unknowable by using meaningless pointing... And although we see a meaningless world, because of the 'minds' perceptions, we can lovingly rejoice in knowing... That God didn't create a meaningless world... i would argue that God is meaningless and by extension the world. and don't ask me to explain; the meaning is obvious.
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Post by enigma on Jul 2, 2011 20:07:38 GMT -5
I agree with not 'eating off someone else's plate' (It spreads germs. Hehe) but if the attitude is more open, it becomes a communion of Self with Self, and then it's not all BS. It really doesn't matter if ones attitude is open or closed... What matters is dispelling the illusory nature of the mind's perceptions about the world. Which has nothing to do with being open or closed?? I was telling Marie yesterday that, with the right attitude, even internet forums could be a Satsang, the communion with Truth. "When two or more are gathered in my name, there I am." Yes, it is Self communing with Self. Smugness isn't actually the best attitude for that to happen. Hehe.
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Post by enigma on Jul 2, 2011 20:10:30 GMT -5
I mean the spiritual geek speak is... It's not the 'concept' of emptiness, or God, or a creator, or love, or the void, or the non conceptual, that's important, it's what that concept 'points' to... So there is the delusional attempt to know, what is unknowable by using meaningless pointing... And although we see a meaningless world, because of the 'minds' perceptions, we can lovingly rejoice in knowing... That God didn't create a meaningless world... Well, actually it's IS pretty much meaningless, at least until you assign meaning to it.
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Post by heretic on Jul 3, 2011 8:04:05 GMT -5
I mean the spiritual geek speak is... It's not the 'concept' of emptiness, or God, or a creator, or love, or the void, or the non conceptual, that's important, it's what that concept 'points' to... So there is the delusional attempt to know, what is unknowable by using meaningless pointing... And although we see a meaningless world, because of the 'minds' perceptions, we can lovingly rejoice in knowing... That God didn't create a meaningless world... Well, actually it's IS pretty much meaningless, at least until you assign meaning to it. Talk about smugness! Do you really believe it comes down to assignation? Quicken: to make alive, to vivify, to revive or resuscitate, as from death or an inanimate state, hence, to excite, to stimulate, to impart additional energy. Quicken chiefly stresses the renewal of suspended life or growth or the arousing to full activity, usually suddenly. -Webster's New International Dictionary The Particle Rancher says a man's reach must exceed his grasp, or what's a meta-for?
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Post by heretic on Jul 3, 2011 8:11:45 GMT -5
with the right attitude, even internet forums could be a Satsang, the communion with Truth. "When two or more are gathered in my name, there I am." Yes, it is Self communing with Self. Smugness isn't actually the best attitude for that to happen. Hehe. C'mon...the "truth" you're pointing at here is an internet satsang under your administration. Which is really more bs.
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Post by enigma on Jul 3, 2011 9:36:44 GMT -5
Yes, meaning is assigned within the illusion of separation.
I said "communion". Look that up in your Funk & Wagnalls.
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Post by heretic on Jul 3, 2011 10:59:24 GMT -5
Yes, meaning is assigned within the illusion of separation. I said "communion". Look that up in your Funk & Wagnalls. You're obviously in the throes of an illusion that I read everything you write. Grace is regaining a sense of humor. So, laugh and be liberated. A touch of madness might be your best antidote for the oh so subtle fanaticism. hehe
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Post by therealfake on Jul 3, 2011 12:38:52 GMT -5
Yes, meaning is assigned within the illusion of separation. I said "communion". Look that up in your Funk & Wagnalls. You're obviously in the throes of an illusion that I read everything you write. Grace is regaining a sense of humor. So, laugh and be liberated. A touch of madness might be your best antidote for the oh so subtle fanaticism. hehe Yes, laugh and be liberated from the world of the ego's own making... The hardest delusion to let go of, is the minds/ego perception of the world... ;D And when that joke is realized, you can't but have a good chuckle... Folks fear madness or going crazy, and so they don't realize the power it has to dispel their own reality that is true delusional madness...lol
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Post by therealfake on Jul 3, 2011 12:50:44 GMT -5
I mean the spiritual geek speak is... It's not the 'concept' of emptiness, or God, or a creator, or love, or the void, or the non conceptual, that's important, it's what that concept 'points' to... So there is the delusional attempt to know, what is unknowable by using meaningless pointing... And although we see a meaningless world, because of the 'minds' perceptions, we can lovingly rejoice in knowing... That God didn't create a meaningless world... i would argue that God is meaningless and by extension the world. and don't ask me to explain; the meaning is obvious. There's no need to explain... That's the thing, you believe God and the world has meaning because you 'gave' it meaning... You don't 'see' the meaningful world that God created, because it is non conceptual, you just see your own mind/ego perceptions of that world. Your own description, and interpretation... And ultimately, descriptions and interpretations as vehicles for carrying knowledge, about the non conceptual world, are 'meaningless'...
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Post by heretic on Jul 3, 2011 12:55:05 GMT -5
You're obviously in the throes of an illusion that I read everything you write. Grace is regaining a sense of humor. So, laugh and be liberated. A touch of madness might be your best antidote for the oh so subtle fanaticism. hehe Yes, laugh and be liberated from the world of the ego's own making... The hardest delusion to let go of, is the minds/ego perception of the world... ;D And when that joke is realized, you can't but have a good chuckle... Folks fear madness or going crazy, and so they don't realize the power it has to dispel their own reality that is true delusional madness...lol Central Casting's Cosmic Host is applauding!! ;D Huh? What's that you say? You have who's Funk and Wagnalls right heah? ;D
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