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Post by robert on Apr 30, 2011 17:07:52 GMT -5
sorry i read that wrong. the non polar plain, is the non- dual plain, correct?
when i stop take a breath and look we are still just jousting with words. in the end there is nothing to say or that can be said.
r.
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Post by therealfake on Apr 30, 2011 17:11:37 GMT -5
What 'Is' or What 'is happening' is dualistic...
If you are aware of 'what Is', there is an object and the process of awareness and object arising in the subject, or emptiness...
If you are not aware of 'what Is', there is just the subject.
And although you don't know it, the subject has discovered itself.
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Post by klaus on Apr 30, 2011 17:13:36 GMT -5
Robert,
Yes, one word is even too much, but what the hell let's enjoy it!
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Post by cyberbluntz on Apr 30, 2011 17:23:50 GMT -5
the non-polar plain, duality, does not encompass void. Could you elaborate?
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Post by robert on Apr 30, 2011 17:56:11 GMT -5
bluntz- i misread your post, apologies. r.
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Post by cyberbluntz on Apr 30, 2011 18:12:35 GMT -5
No problemo. As I missed yours
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Post by enigma on Apr 30, 2011 18:56:37 GMT -5
What I just read was a conceptual description of 'what is' followed by a dismissal of all conceptualization. Hehe. You's guys are pretty funny.
What the original post was actually about is the ending of the search for dualistic happiness. Does anybody have an opinion on that, considering the fact that this has always been, and probably always will be, the reason why you do anything?
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Post by therealfake on Apr 30, 2011 19:36:12 GMT -5
What I just read was a conceptual description of 'what is' followed by a dismissal of all conceptualization. Hehe. You's guys are pretty funny. What the original post was actually about is the ending of the search for dualistic happiness. Does anybody have an opinion on that, considering the fact that this has always been, and probably always will be, the reason why you do anything? Why would anyone 'want' to end the search for dualistic happiness? Or do anything about anything for that matter... That search 'Is' Buddha nature, it's all Buddha nature. Everyone is a smoking Buddha, the subject, the emptiness. Unless your selling something, I'm not sure what kind of response your looking for.
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Post by cyberbluntz on Apr 30, 2011 19:44:45 GMT -5
Wanna know something else? The non-polar plane that we are talking about prevents Nothing and Everything from annhilating one another. When they are pushed together energy (kinda like friction) is created. Like how you see guys melting cups and shocking people with chi, that's how they do it (obviously more involved) But that is the basic idea. This train of thought is what leads you to a "gateless gate" that you might utilize these concepts. There are 3 gates, Nothing, everything, and neutral. I would personally stay away from nothing until everything is understood. Once you understand nothing and everything you can work on the gates!
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Post by enigma on Apr 30, 2011 20:03:08 GMT -5
What I just read was a conceptual description of 'what is' followed by a dismissal of all conceptualization. Hehe. You's guys are pretty funny. What the original post was actually about is the ending of the search for dualistic happiness. Does anybody have an opinion on that, considering the fact that this has always been, and probably always will be, the reason why you do anything? Why would anyone 'want' to end the search for dualistic happiness? Or do anything about anything for that matter... That search 'Is' Buddha nature, it's all Buddha nature. Everyone is a smoking Buddha, the subject, the emptiness. Unless your selling something, I'm not sure what kind of response your looking for. I was looking for an honest response.
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Post by enigma on Apr 30, 2011 20:03:40 GMT -5
Wanna know something else? The non-polar plane that we are talking about prevents Nothing and Everything from annhilating one another. When they are pushed together energy (kinda like friction) is created. Like how you see guys melting cups and shocking people with chi, that's how they do it (obviously more involved) But that is the basic idea. This train of thought is what leads you to a "gateless gate" that you might utilize these concepts. There are 3 gates, Nothing, everything, and neutral. I would personally stay away from nothing until everything is understood. Once you understand nothing and everything you can work on the gates! None of that.
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Post by enigma on Apr 30, 2011 20:13:24 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it was Jed Mckenna who said "Be sincere; don't ask questions out of mere interest. Ask dangerous questions—the ones whose answers could change your life."
I find that when I ask others those questions, I don't get much in the way of answers.... so much.....really.
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Post by Portto on Apr 30, 2011 20:14:17 GMT -5
That was a wonderful opening post, Enigma. What the original post was actually about is the ending of the search for dualistic happiness. Does anybody have an opinion on that, considering the fact that this has always been, and probably always will be, the reason why you do anything? Ending the search for dualistic happiness is definitely a significant milestone for a heavy thinker. But I don't think everybody is searching for ultimate happiness or that everything is motivated by the search for happiness. Is an ant looking for its nest searching for happiness? Is a man looking for food searching for happiness? Happiness is a pretty abstract concept, although many of our experiences can be interpreted as happiness.
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Post by Portto on Apr 30, 2011 20:20:56 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it was Jed Mckenna who said "Be sincere; don't ask questions out of mere interest. Ask dangerous questions—the ones whose answers could change your life." I find that when I ask others those questions, I don't get much in the way of answers.... so much.....really. It looks like your questions are working: somebody is after your karma... BIG time.. ROFL
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Post by enigma on Apr 30, 2011 20:23:08 GMT -5
I noticed. Looks like Cyberbluntz is going to catch up very soon. Hehe.
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