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Oct 12, 2011 20:50:22 GMT -5
Post by tathagata on Oct 12, 2011 20:50:22 GMT -5
This whole thing becomes very simple if you just do one thing....observe the observer...but this is the hardest thing for people to actually sit down and do on a frequent and consistant basis...
Observe what is observing...and then observe what is observing the observing....keep Going until you get to the dead end...and then stay at that dead end as much as possible...sit there....reside there....and all questions become answered or moot....this one simple thing is all you have to do....everything else is window dressing that makes doing this one thing easier.
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Oct 14, 2011 15:03:12 GMT -5
Post by popee2 on Oct 14, 2011 15:03:12 GMT -5
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Oct 15, 2011 1:56:21 GMT -5
Post by runstill on Oct 15, 2011 1:56:21 GMT -5
That is an excellent article I hope the author is right about OWS going main stream. The Ghandhi quote was powerful (First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win) I think they are between the laughing and fighting phase now.
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Oct 16, 2011 19:03:56 GMT -5
Post by ernie on Oct 16, 2011 19:03:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I think most of the Occupy Peeps are thinking the same thing... <photo poking fun at the seeming hypocrisy of people protesting against corporations whilst fully utilizing the products of corporations> i appreciate the cleverness in that pic. however, ernie paints the factual reality that is being protested. here's another photo that more accurately reflects who is protesting: and here is a link to the OWS declaration: nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/.... They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage. They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses. They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation. They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization. .... There is a bubble-story that many people share that includes the theme 'there is no alternative' (famously stated by Margaret Thatcher). No alternative to this type of vast exploitation -- that's what is being addressed right now, IMO. Write on, max!
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Oct 19, 2011 7:20:32 GMT -5
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Oct 19, 2011 7:22:56 GMT -5
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Nov 11, 2011 11:51:10 GMT -5
Post by popee2 on Nov 11, 2011 11:51:10 GMT -5
Charlie Chaplin (1940)
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Nov 13, 2011 16:01:08 GMT -5
Post by unveilable on Nov 13, 2011 16:01:08 GMT -5
Thats a nice one popee! Not sure this was mentioned yet but there is a movement to Occupy Within. I marched twice with a humble sign that reads All Are One. And when I marched I held a state of non-conceptual awareness as I walked. www.facebook.com/pages/Occupy-Within/102184506557967
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Nov 13, 2011 18:46:05 GMT -5
Post by popee2 on Nov 13, 2011 18:46:05 GMT -5
Occupy Within .. that's beautiful unveilable, good luck with that.
The status quo .. is fear and greed; Occupy Within is likely the only way to overcome.
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Nov 23, 2011 13:40:32 GMT -5
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Nov 23, 2011 17:30:18 GMT -5
Post by question on Nov 23, 2011 17:30:18 GMT -5
Sh*t like that makes me furious. I don't want community, I don't want to be creative, intimate, loving, giving. All these things may be important to you and your friends, but you can't seriously create a revolution based on them. 1% in this case is you. What people think or feel is none of my or your business.
People (myself included) just want a responsive, stable and predictable system that provides a structure within which we can coexist and have equal opportunity to realize our potential. I expect nothing more. Right now it's under a serious threat. I'm worried sick about what's going to happen next year. Love isn't the solution to what is about to happen, this love message is a blind alley, your enemies are overjoyed that you're killing the movement with this love thing. While you sit in peaceful and loving meditation they're going to wipe out all of your bank accounts. Arjuna was experiencing feelings of love, but that didn't keep him from fighting the Mahabharata. Stop trolling OWS with your hippie bs, it isn't about love at all.
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Nov 23, 2011 18:18:20 GMT -5
Post by enigma on Nov 23, 2011 18:18:20 GMT -5
HA! I tend to agree, Question. The personal and community ideals are great, but what's the point of knocking on doors on Wall street to deliver that message? The 60's hippie movement was wonderful, heartfelt, valid and a total non-starter. Some of them are still wearing ties and sitting in a cubicle now counting the days till retirement.
Revolutions of the heart don't start on Wall street, they start in the heart, then move to the family, then the community. Since nobody agrees what the community should look like, we have to wait until we do.
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Nov 23, 2011 18:30:50 GMT -5
Post by question on Nov 23, 2011 18:30:50 GMT -5
Just explain to me about how the system isn't people generated? The responsiveness and stability and consistency that you are asking for, must be developed through the willingness of all people to work together for each others benefit surely? Sure, but it is enforced structurally (education, law, taxes etc) and not by politely asking people to love their neighbor like themselves. If the structure is adjusted correctly then even if I am not a loving person my participation will still benefit other people.
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Nov 23, 2011 19:49:44 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 19:49:44 GMT -5
Sh*t like that makes me furious. I don't want community, I don't want to be creative, intimate, loving, giving. All these things may be important to you and your friends, but you can't seriously create a revolution based on them. 1% in this case is you. What people think or feel is none of my or your business. yes, good point. that expectation is actually revolutionary in itself. 'equal opportunity' -- that's the holy grail. 'realize our potential' -- now your talking froofy hippie stuff. but that's what i want too.
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Nov 23, 2011 20:19:34 GMT -5
Post by question on Nov 23, 2011 20:19:34 GMT -5
Feel free to insert the word 'relative' as you see fit.
No, it is not a pipe dream, unless you think that even Sweden, Denmark, Austria, Canada etc aren't good enough for you.
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