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Post by goatsnest on Jun 2, 2010 16:00:56 GMT -5
If someones awakened I would have thought they would be able to convey the 'message' as well as the next awakened person. I like reading about Ramana Maharshi as he was obviously the real deal, but he didn't do much by all acounts. Some of the modern teachers can't convey the profound peace etc that he did by the sound of it. I quite like Eckhart Tolle he seems to have something, is he really awakened? His bank account seems to be doing pretty well ;D.
With so many of them out there I find it difficult to work out who's kosher and who's a fake (that's why this site was a god send to me!)
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Post by karen on Jun 2, 2010 19:40:13 GMT -5
IMHO, just make sure you do not fake it.
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Post by lobo on Jun 3, 2010 9:10:36 GMT -5
Yes there are so many out there.
It can be quite distracting.
In fact it can pull attention wawy from the purest thing within oneself that brings one to look in the first place.
That must be why they say "look within".
Personally I think a lot of time can be wasted looking around, but there are some valuable tools that can be picked up from others, but these are not necessarily big name teachers.
I think these things can be learned form teachers who are not even necessarily totally awakened....
1. a method of inquiry using observation and reason. This helps uncover all the patterns that distract attention and sap energy.
2. a method of meditation....wide open here..find something that helps, maybe multiple methods
3. an appreciation for, a taste of, a pointing to the "unconditioned", "pure awareness", "true nature"
and most of all, keep it experiential, not abstract. Stay in touch with that inner sense that brought you to where you are looking
I am not a teacher. That is my best advice based on my own wars with the conditioning that obscures the truth.
peace brother
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Post by sherry on Jun 5, 2010 10:02:12 GMT -5
Rather than some teachers being better than others, it seems to be a matter of i can 'hear' some teachers more clearly than others. We look from a similar perspective, perhaps. I read many different approaches and some clearly resonate more strongly, but I think just hearing 'it' from several different perspectives is helpful...... sometimes this one speaks clearly on a particular issue and then - at another stage - someone else's input 'rings an internal bell'.
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Post by lobo on Jun 6, 2010 23:48:29 GMT -5
Rather than some teachers being better than others, it seems to be a matter of i can 'hear' some teachers more clearly than others. We look from a similar perspective, perhaps. I read many different approaches and some clearly resonate more strongly, but I think just hearing 'it' from several different perspectives is helpful...... sometimes this one speaks clearly on a particular issue and then - at another stage - someone else's input 'rings an internal bell'. I agree Sherry. I will also add that I have learned some things that have been useful in the quest for truth that have come form people not even interested in that. One specific thing that comes to mind is how to ask questions of oneself to uncover beliefs. |
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Post by hazxan on Jul 17, 2010 5:42:23 GMT -5
As we are all different, conditioned through different cultures and childhood experiences, we "stray" in different directions. We are in different internal places, so one teaching may be best for one individual, another teaching for another. Sufism talks of a teacher being right for a particular 'time and place'.
And then there are the charlatans who's teaching is good for nobody but themselves! A real teacher will *always* be better than them.
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