EdgarCayce

[Psychical]

Edgar Cayce should be on the spiritual teachers list.

[zendancer]

Hi Psychical: Welcome to the forum. Why do you think Cayce should be on the list, and how would you summarize his teachings concerning non-duality? My understanding is that he was a psychic who gave readings while under hypnosis, but he reportedly had lots of doubts about his own readings and their relevance to his spiritual beliefs (which were primarily Christian and dualistic).

[Psychical]

Hello.

Here is some quotes by Edgar Cayce:

"Father God! Let me, as thy child see in my fellowman the DIVINITY I would worship in thee."

"Know and behold the Lord is One. Thou are His [child], a manifestation of His love, of His patience - in the earth."

"For until ye become as a savior, as a help to some soul that has lost hope, lost its way, ye do not fully comprehend the god within, the god without."

"The purpose of the heart is to know yourself to be yourself and yet one with God."

None of those sound dual to me!

[zendancer]

Psychical: Again, why do you think he should be on the list, and how would you summarize what you think are his teachings? Why do you suppose he was conflicted about things he was told that he said while in a trance state? How would you respond to the general presentation of the man's life via sources such as Wickipedia? From what I have read he is generally regarded as a medium rather than someone who directly experienced the truth, attained clarity, and then taught about it. Have his teachings, whatever they are, helped you attain understanding? If so, please tell us about that. I'm not attacking you; I'm just curious.

[Psychical]

Edgar Cayce

I always heard his name being brought up in new age and spiritual websites or spiritualist books so i decided to check his work out. Edgar cayce was a chaneller, he was a psychic he provided us with lots of knowledge about the afterlife, health, mysticism, Christianity, predictions, the earth, spirituality etc.

I can't summerise all of his teachings here, but to answer your question on why i think he deserves to be on the list is becuase i believe he explained to people the 'christ consciouness' he had a deep loving message. He taught the oneness of God. This is what people are calling on this forum 'nonduality'.

Here is a reading from Edgar Cayce:

Q. What is the main purpose of Jesus' incarnation?
EC: To glorify the Christ Consciousness in the Earth . in the lives of those with whom ye come in contact, and to live the same thyself. - Reading 2441-4

Q. What is the meaning and significance of the words Jesus and Christ...?

EC: Just as indicated. Jesus is the man, the activity, the mind, the relationships that He bore to others. Yea, He was mindful of friends, He was sociable. He was loving. He was kind. He was gentle. He grew faint, He grew weak and yet gained that strength that He has promised, in becoming the Christ, by fulfilling and overcoming the world! Ye are made strong in body, in mind, in soul and purpose by that power in Christ. The power, then, is in the Christ. The pattern is in Jesus. - Reading 2533-7

From Cayce's perspective, Jesus is the Elder brother for all of humankind, deeply committed to assisting all souls in reawakening to the awareness of their oneness with God. This Jesus is not interested in religious conversion, denominationalism, or even mighty personal accomplishments. Instead, He is simply interested in how we treat one another. With this in mind, even in the midst of our diversity as a human family, we share a common spiritual heritage. We are all Children of the same God. We are all part of the one spiritual Source. And, we are all destined to return to our Creator, God.

To answer your question just his teachings have helped me. If you read the Edgar Cayce Hand book it simply explains his principles go to principle 4 titled ' All is one everything is connected', He did directly experience truth and he presents it in his books quite well, he even gives certain exercises for the reader to experience the truth.

Why do you suppose he was conflicted about things he was told that he said while in a trance state?

He wasn't conflicted he was a devout Christian, it happened in a few readings concerning reincarnation becuase reincarnation is not found in the bible. He later accepted reincarnation becuase he came up in many readings.

I won't moan at wikipedia becuase it does help some people but it needs to be said that anyone can edit wikipedia so not everything on there will be truthful. To understand Edgar Cayce and his teachings you have to buy and read his books. There not that expensive and not hard to get hold of.

Edgar cayce is overlooked, that was all i wanted to say he deserves some looking into.

[zendancer]

Thanks for the feedback. It sounds like Cayce had a broader outlook than I realized. Cheers.

[Psychical]

Yes that is true, when i first looked into cayce the very first time i did believe he was just another 'psyhic' like the millions out there.
But he was very different than the average psychic which i later found out the whole oneness with God is something you would expect to find from some kind of esoteric eastern school not from a western psychic. What is your opinion on psychics? You think it is genuine?

Heres a main question how is it that Edgar Cayce got so many predictions correct? Even skeptics don't deny it.

[zendancer]

Each of us is connected to a reality that is far deeper than the intellect. Some people tap into what we might call "cosmic mind" accidentally on rare occasions, and other people seem to be able to tap into it regularly. Most people have had non-local experiences at one time or another, but they may not recognize them as such, or they may dismiss them after the shock wears off (psychologists call this phenomenon "stable sameness"--the tendency of the mind to keep a conventional perspective.)

In his book "The Crack in the Cosmic Egg" Chilton Pierce recounts a short period of time in college during which he realized that he was impervious to pain. In front of witnesses he took lit cigarettes and put them out on his face and eyelids to demonstrate his state of mind (they left no mark on his skin and he reportedly felt nothing). Later, none of the witnesses rememebered the event. My wife, Carol, went to at a silent retreat with a friend one time. During one exercise everyone was blindfolded. At some point Carol took off her blindfold because she saw through the illusion of the game. A few moments later her friend took off her blindfold because she knew that Carol had taken hers off even though she hadn't been able to see her do it. She remembers thinking, "Well, if Carol can take her blindfold off, then so can I," but there was no way for her to know this. After a mystical experience in 1984 I spent two days knowing what everyone around me was thinking. I was connected to something deeper than ordinary consciousness. How this happens is a mystery, but it apaprently happens to a lot of people.

Even though I appreciate the mysteriousness of reality and our unity with it, I am not very interested in psychic stuff because it doesn't usually help people attain clarity or resolve existential issues. It also usually enhances the sense of separateness rather than diminishes it by making people seem special. IMO the path of non-duality leads to pure awareness and presence and the ordinariness of being fully human in the sense of "chopping wood and carrying water."

Many Zen Masters and Sufi Masters have exhibited unusual psychic phenomena, but they generally eschew such phenomena as peripheral to a way of life that is extremely down to earth. Cheers.

[skyblue]

He wasn't conflicted he was a devout Christian

Psychical, Edgar Cayce was conflicted when his Christian fundamental background didn't agree with his channeled messages. For example, it took Cayce a long time to come to terms with reincarnation.

I feel I 'grew up' on Edgar Cayce because when I opened spiritually at 25 his teachings were the first to cross my path. Since Cayce was a a Kentuckian and so am I, I felt a close kinship with him at that time. I devoured his books, visited his hometown and saw his gravesite. I asked to have a meeting with him and indeed I had a very lucid dream where I met him and his wife. It was interesting because they had combined their souls to become one.

Anyway, from what I remember reading about him, he struggled with the information that came through him because of his strict fundamental upbringing.

I feel he was an important stepping stone to my Truth and he was an excellent teacher for me. I wouldn't have the understanding I have today if it hadn't been for Edgar Cayce.