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Post by frankshank on Mar 25, 2010 6:54:43 GMT -5
I think it was ZD who stated that once the illusory separate self is seen through it's possible to grasp how space and time works. Is there any such thing as past and future? Does everything that has ever happened and everything that will ever happen, happen in one moment? Leading on from these questions, is it possible to see into the so called future?
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Post by zendancer on Mar 25, 2010 7:44:41 GMT -5
Frank: We do not grasp work how space and time "works." Those things are seen as conceptual structures that function exactly like lines of latitude and longitude. They have a utilitarian function, but they are imaginary. We imagine time as a succession of separate moments, whereas the truth is whole and is always now. Because what we think of as "the future" is connected to what is here now, some people perceive what we call "future events" before they happen. In fact those events have already happened. To put it another way, nothing has ever happened and that "nothing happening" is always now. I might add that this makes no sense to the mind.
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Post by zendancer on Mar 25, 2010 7:46:09 GMT -5
I mis-typed the first sentence of the prior post. Please ignore the first "work."
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Post by frankshank on Mar 25, 2010 8:16:27 GMT -5
Thanks for the explanation ZD. Why is it then that only some people seem to be able to perceive 'future events'?
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Post by Portto on Mar 25, 2010 10:07:41 GMT -5
Why is it then that only some people seem to be able to perceive 'future events'? I would say that we are all able to perceive some future events. Some people are simply able go further than others. |
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Post by zendancer on Mar 25, 2010 10:22:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the explanation ZD. Why is it then that only some people seem to be able to perceive 'future events'? Because only some people are able to do so. Cheers. |
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Post by karen on Mar 25, 2010 11:23:03 GMT -5
I've not been able to "see" into the future, but I have noticed getting ready for things that seem to then later happen. I notice this after it happens.
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Post by Portto on Mar 25, 2010 11:34:59 GMT -5
I've not been able to "see" into the future What about when you're reaching for a hot plate (and so on)? Are you able to see into the future? This is why I'm saying that we can all see into the future. |
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Post by karen on Mar 25, 2010 11:36:53 GMT -5
I see your distinction there.
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Post by dei on Mar 25, 2010 11:39:02 GMT -5
I don't claim to have any precognitive gift, but if i LOOK to see a future, i see branches of possible futures which will unfold from what IS. I also know that metaphysics can be used to change the direction of unfolding (and why would you, but that's a separate issue). I guess there are people who can actually see which possible branch will actually unfold... but if it can't be changed at that point, what good is seeing it?
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Post by frankshank on Mar 25, 2010 11:53:18 GMT -5
Karen: Do you mind me asking what experiences you've had? Dei: I can earn a living seeing into the future!  |
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Post by dei on Mar 25, 2010 11:57:25 GMT -5
frankshank: *lol* That's a GOOD reason to do it.  But didn't you post the original question as to whether it's possible? |
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Post by frankshank on Mar 25, 2010 12:14:42 GMT -5
frankshank: *lol* That's a GOOD reason to do it. But didn't you post the original question as to whether it's possible? Based on what people I know have told me and from what I have read and seen on tv I do believe perceiving 'future events' is possible. There is an element of doubt there though so I'm curious how an enlightened being/person views it. On this site I keep being told everything just happens but as I'm still dreaming I'm hoping to pick up a tip so I can somehow acquire the necessary skills. I've always fancied being a psychic lol! |
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Post by enigma on Mar 25, 2010 12:18:27 GMT -5
Creation unfolds from the inside out rather than the reverse, which is to say experience begins as a bubbling up from within the totality of Consciousness, and when it reaches a level of conscious awareness in the individuated perspective, we call this perception or experience. What we see as future events, as well as what we see as otherness, begins in the depths of what you could call your own mind, which is in no way separate from 'other minds'.
On some level, though it may not be a conscious one, you already 'know' what is being created through the perception of that particular mind/body you call yourself, and you're already preparing to meet it, or to be surprised by it, or dismayed or angered by it. Hehe. Sometimes your attention may make bits and pieces of this game available to your conscious awareness since it can be interesting to do so, but to make it all available would spoil the game and you would lose interest.
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Post by zendancer on Mar 25, 2010 16:24:09 GMT -5
Frank: Who you are is having fun, as Frank, wondering about the future and trying to make sense of all these statements being made about the future by who you are playing in/as other forms.
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But didn't you post the original question as to whether it's possible? 
