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Post by frankshank on Mar 11, 2010 2:02:58 GMT -5
I'm curious about this happiness you speak. I *think* life has been good to me as well, but for whatever reason, it ain't enough for me which breeds the feelings of pain. If I felt satisfied, I'm sure I wouldn't be here. But no need to feel bad about about your happiness my friend. Smoke it if you've got it.  I don't know whether this is just part of the dream but I have felt happier since I started taking omega 3 supplements. A deficiency can cause depression. May be worth giving it a bash!  |
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Post by karen on Mar 11, 2010 12:15:15 GMT -5
I've tried it in the past, but didn't notice any difference, but thanks for the reminder; I've been meaning to add some since going vegan.
But are you so sure you're happy? Does that condition of happiness change? I mean is it all the time - utter contentment? You never find yourself scurrying around filling the hole of discontentment with delicious food, entertainment, lots of sex or masturbation, etc.? Maybe you fill it so fast you don't even notice the discontentment? Is that a possibility? Have you ever tried to stop and see what unfolds?
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Post by frankshank on Mar 11, 2010 12:52:29 GMT -5
I've tried it in the past, but didn't notice any difference, but thanks for the reminder; I've been meaning to add some since going vegan. But are you so sure you're happy? Does that condition of happiness change? I mean is it all the time - utter contentment? You never find yourself scurrying around filling the hole of discontentment with delicious food, entertainment, lots of sex or masturbation, etc.? Maybe you fill it so fast you don't even notice the discontentment? Is that a possibility? Have you ever tried to stop and see what unfolds? I'm not happy all of the time. Before I started taking the omega 3 though I felt depressed most of the time and now I feel happyish most of the time. There are other factors perhaps but I stopped taking the omega 3 for a short period as an experiment and noticed negative thoughts kicking back in. I've been a vegetarian for a good 20 years so I think my body must have been crying out for it with me not eating fish. |
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Post by karen on Mar 11, 2010 12:58:31 GMT -5
Ah OK, now I see where you're coming from.
I just scored some flax oil caps from Amazon, and whether they make me feel better or not, the research points to it being essential, so I'll add it to my regimen.
Now, do I have control over these fine grain decisions? I don't know.
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Post by frankshank on Mar 11, 2010 13:22:37 GMT -5
Ah OK, now I see where you're coming from. I just scored some flax oil caps from Amazon, and whether they make me feel better or not, the research points to it being essential, so I'll add it to my regimen. Now, do I have control over these fine grain decisions? I don't know. There's also V-pure, which is what I use. It's a bit more expensive but it's derived from the algae that fish eat so it's free of the toxic contaminants found in fish oil. On the v-pure website they argue that flaxseed oil is not as effective but I haven't tried it so I can't compare. www.v-pure.com/ |
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Post by loverofall on Mar 12, 2010 21:52:50 GMT -5
If the I is real and has control how come it can't control thoughts and emotions. Another realization. At best there can be a shift towards somthing by the I and then the rest just goes crazy with thoughts and feelings.
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Post by karen on Mar 12, 2010 22:48:05 GMT -5
Actually with me, it seems like I can control thoughts, emotions, and actions except when I can't. I can logically deduce and can get to the place where past actions/thoughts/feelings I can see are based on past actions/thoughts/feelings which are based on past actions/thoughts/feelings etc. which then lets me off the hook. But in the moment, I rarely feel like I'm not driving. I would like to let go though. It's been really tiring holding on. |
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Post by loverofall on Mar 12, 2010 23:07:37 GMT -5
Can you really look at an object and control what thoughts pop up?
Can you create joy?
Can you create feelings of peace?
Can you stop negative emotions?
Can you let go?
See you can't control anything.
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Post by amit on Mar 18, 2010 12:03:21 GMT -5
Thanks for referring me to despair.com, it's a great site lol. The thing is I'm not depressed; I'm happy!! Even though I'm happy I do feel as though I should be doing something with my life which is why I'm trying to get someone (even though there's only one) to agree that I have no choice anyway lol!!! FWIW I agree Frank. To say that there's no separate Frank to make doing something with your life happen or prevent it liberates 'Frank' completely from that dilemma does it not? Doing something may or may not appear to happen all by itself maybe whilst looking like you appearing to be really decisive and dynamically active. -amit- |
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Post by frankshank on Mar 18, 2010 12:35:15 GMT -5
Hi Amit. Realising that everything just happens, even if it's only on a conceptual level at the moment, does help. The fact I'm pretty happy also helps. However, there is a part of me that really just wants to do something. I seem to have issues with decision making, motivation & energy levels. At least 'Frank' does lol. I have a feeling 'Frank' is going to burst into life at some point and as I still feel very much attached to him I really do hope so (and soon) lol. |
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Post by frankshank on Mar 18, 2010 13:14:30 GMT -5
That raises another issue when I think about it. Some suggest that IT is playing all the parts but as I haven't experienced anything to suggest that's the case I assume that the make up of the body & mind results in choices being made at an unconscious level. That doesn't discount us being present awareness according to the way I comprehend it. The issue based on this assumption is therefore, will my belief that things just happen register in my subconscious and affect my actions??
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Post by amit on Mar 19, 2010 5:33:58 GMT -5
Frank:
The beauty of some nonduality versions is that there is already absolutely no distance between seeker and sought no matter what the seeker is experiencing. In those versions it doesn't matter whether it's conceptual or a profound resonance, for it's Oneness arising as both. Should profound resonance arise, great, but those that don't have it are no less totally connected to One, than those who do. How could 'they' be if Oneness is All There Is?
No disconnection possible so nothing to be restored or realized for it's already One not realizing.
In the story this unconditional version is great for some whose unsuccessful ego's, like mine, can't bear the idea that there is something lacking for them to correct by some practise or other, but disliked by ego's that are used to successfully working towards objectives.
Either way it's the One Unconditional Love in Action dreaming difference where there is none.
-amit
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Post by karen on Mar 19, 2010 11:09:45 GMT -5
If that helps you knowing that, more power to you!
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Post by frankshank on Mar 19, 2010 12:09:43 GMT -5
Thanks for your input. I get the basic concept of oneness but without experiencing it, it's difficult to embrace it unreservedly. Whatever will be will be.
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Post by amit on Mar 21, 2010 5:37:32 GMT -5
If that helps you knowing that, more power to you! Karen: It doesn't help it's just playing as and in the illusion of difference where there is none............One minding and talking to itself. What ended the search and the feeling of disconnection that drove it, was the resonance that All is One which had nothing to do with knowing anything. Those that have not experienced it are no less totally Oneness in action than those that have. And for you? -amit- |
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