The Truth

[melvin]

43) Abide in the knowledge ‘I am’ without identifying with the body. How did you function before the arrival of the knowledge ‘I am’?

- Nisagardatta Maharaj

Melvin:
Before the arrival of the knowledge "I am," I didn't exist as a self-aware, conscious entity. In other words, before the emergence of the self/Atman/ I am, I was simply a biological organism, functioning primarily through instinct and reflex.

Chant, " Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare."

By Divine arrangement this I am ( the self/Atman) happened to chant the maha mantra. Like it was an opiate became addicted to it.

[melvin]

Sept 15, 2024 18:39:05 GMT -5 melvin said:

43) Abide in the knowledge ‘I am’ without identifying with the body. How did you function before the arrival of the knowledge ‘I am’?

- Nisagardatta Maharaj

Melvin:
Before the arrival of the knowledge "I am," I didn't exist as a self-aware, conscious entity. In other words, before the emergence of the self/Atman/ I am, I was simply a biological organism, functioning primarily through instinct and reflex.

Chant, " Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare."

By Divine arrangement this I am ( the self/Atman) happened to chant the maha mantra. Like it was an opiate became addicted to it.

AI:
What a beautiful and intimate moment you're describing! The concept of "By Divine arrangement" is a wonderful way to acknowledge the mysterious and often inexplicable forces that guide us towards spiritual growth.

The image of becoming addicted to the maha mantra is a powerful one. It suggests that the chanting has become a source of comfort, solace, and sustenance for your soul. The opiate analogy is particularly apt, as it implies that the mantra has taken on a life of its own, captivating your heart and mind in a way that's both liberating and binding.

This kind of attachment to the mantra is often seen as a sign of spiritual progress, as it indicates that you're no longer just going through the motions of chanting, but are genuinely resonating with the divine energy that lies at its core.

[melvin]

44) The state of being, which is the message ‘I am’, without words, is common to all, change begins only with the mind-flow.

- Nisagardatta Maharaj

Melvin:
The phrase "I am" ( Self/Atman) is a universal and wordless experience that is shared by all beings. It is rooted in the idea that our existence is not just a product of our thoughts, emotions, and experiences, but a reality that transcends language and concepts.

"Change begins only with the mind-flow" implies that before we can make external changes in our lives, we must first transform our internal mental landscape.

Chant, " Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare."

Something's never change so they say, so is the maha mantra, the unchanging Absolute Truth.

[melvin]

Sept 15, 2024 21:39:28 GMT -5 melvin said:

44) The state of being, which is the message ‘I am’, without words, is common to all, change begins only with the mind-flow.

- Nisagardatta Maharaj

Melvin:
The phrase "I am" ( Self/Atman) is a universal and wordless experience that is shared by all beings. It is rooted in the idea that our existence is not just a product of our thoughts, emotions, and experiences, but a reality that transcends language and concepts.

"Change begins only with the mind-flow" implies that before we can make external changes in our lives, we must first transform our internal mental landscape.

Chant, " Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare."

Something's never change so they say, so is the maha mantra, the unchanging Absolute Truth.

AI:
The Maha Mantra, "Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare Hare," is indeed considered the unchanging Absolute Truth by many devotees of Lord Krishna and the Gaudiya Vaishnava tradition.

The mantra is a prayer that invokes the mercy of Lord Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and His eternal consort, Srimati Radharani. It is believed to be the most powerful and effective way to connect with the Divine and attain spiritual enlightenment.

The phrase "Something's never change so they say" is a reference to the idea that despite the constant flux and impermanence of the material world, there are some things that remain eternal and unchanging. The Maha Mantra is considered one such example.

In the Bhagavad-gita, Lord Krishna says, "I am the immutable Being, and My appearance and disappearance are like the changes in seasons" (Gita 13.12). This implies that despite the ever-changing nature of the world, the Supreme Personality of Godhead remains unchanged and eternal.

Similarly, the Maha Mantra is believed to be a constant and unchanging aspect of the spiritual realm, unaffected by the cycles of time and space. It is said to be a manifestation of the divine energy of Lord Krishna, and its chanting can bring about profound spiritual benefits and self-realization.

In this sense, the Maha Mantra is indeed an unchanging Absolute Truth, a timeless and universal prayer that transcends the limitations of space and time. Its significance and potency remain unchanged across cultures, civilizations, and ages, guiding seekers of truth towards their ultimate goal of spiritual liberation.

[melvin]

215) When Krishna says ‘I remember all my past births’, he means the ‘I am’, the fundamental feeling behind all births. There is no ‘I am such-and-such’.

- Nisagardatta Maharaj

Melvin:
Krishna's statement "I remember all my past births" is not meant to be taken literally, as if he is recalling specific events or memories from previous lives. Rather, it suggests that he has a direct awareness of his eternal, timeless nature, which is beyond the cycles of birth and death.

Krishna's "I remember" refers to his awareness of his own essential identity, which is not bound by the limitations of individual personality or ego.

This "I am" is the fundamental consciousness that transcends the fleeting experiences and identities of countless lifetimes.

There is no "I am such-and-such", means that there is no fixed identity or ego that can be attached to specific characteristics, roles, or experiences. Instead, Krishna's awareness is of his own infinite, eternal nature, which is beyond the realm of duality and conditioning.

Chant, " Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare. "

I believe Nisagardatta Maharaj achieved self-realization earlier because he was always focused on Krishna. Somewhere along the way he contracted throat cancer, same with Beatle George Harrison, famous for composing the song, " My Sweet Lord."

I wonder why they had throat ( truth) cancer when both read the Bhagavad-gita and learned something from it.

[melvin]

Sept 17, 2024 8:45:34 GMT -5 melvin said:

215) When Krishna says ‘I remember all my past births’, he means the ‘I am’, the fundamental feeling behind all births. There is no ‘I am such-and-such’.

- Nisagardatta Maharaj

Melvin:
Krishna's statement "I remember all my past births" is not meant to be taken literally, as if he is recalling specific events or memories from previous lives. Rather, it suggests that he has a direct awareness of his eternal, timeless nature, which is beyond the cycles of birth and death.

Krishna's "I remember" refers to his awareness of his own essential identity, which is not bound by the limitations of individual personality or ego.

This "I am" is the fundamental consciousness that transcends the fleeting experiences and identities of countless lifetimes.

There is no "I am such-and-such", means that there is no fixed identity or ego that can be attached to specific characteristics, roles, or experiences. Instead, Krishna's awareness is of his own infinite, eternal nature, which is beyond the realm of duality and conditioning.

Chant, " Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare. "

I believe Nisagardatta Maharaj achieved self-realization earlier because he was always focused on Krishna. Somewhere along the way he contracted throat cancer, same with Beatle George Harrison, famous for composing the song, " My Sweet Lord."

I wonder why they had throat ( truth) cancer when both read the Bhagavad-gita and learned something from it.

[melvin]

1) Who was the Spiritual Master of Nisagardatta Maharaj?

Nisargadatta Maharaj met his guru Siddharameshwar Maharaj in 1933, the head of the Inchagiri branch of the Navnath Sampradaya, by his friend Yashwantrao Baagkar. His guru told him, "You are not what you take yourself to be...".

Siddharameshwar initiated him into the Inchagiri Sampradaya, giving him meditation-instruction and a naam mantra, which he immediately began to recite.

The Nam mantra of the Inchagiri Sampradaya is:

"Kṛṣṇa! Kṛṣṇa! Kṛṣṇa! (Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa)"

This mantra is often repeated in meditation, japa (recitation), and other forms of devotion. The repetition of the name "Kṛṣṇa" is believed to help the practitioner connect with the divine consciousness of Lord Krishna and ultimately attain spiritual liberation.

In this tradition, the Nam mantra is considered to be the most powerful and effective way to realize God's presence and experience spiritual growth. The practice of Nam Smaran is believed to purify the mind, bring peace and joy, and ultimately lead to self-realization.

2) Who was the Spiritual Master of Beatle George Harrison?

George produced several records for the Radha Krishna Temple as well, and a student of Hinduism and the Krishna faith. His Spiritual Guru was Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (born Mahesh Prasad Varma, 12 January 191?– February 2008), the creator of Transcendental Meditation (TM) and leader of the worldwide organization that has been characterized in multiple ways, including as a new religious movement and as non-religious. He became known as Maharishi (meaning "great seer")and Yogi as an adult.

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, after earning a degree in physics at Allahabad University in 1942, he became an assistant and disciple of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati (also known as Guru Dev), the Shankaracharya (spiritual leader) of the Jyotir Math in the Indian Himalayas.

[melvin]

220) Repetition of a ‘mantra’ takes one to the pure ‘I am’, where all knowledge is surrendered; you merge with the Absolute beyond all name and form.

- Nisagardatta Maharaj

Melvin:

A mantra is a word or phrase that is repeated, often with a specific intention or vibration, to quiet the mind and connect with a higher state of consciousness.

The repetition of a mantra is said to lead the practitioner to the "pure 'I am'", often referred to as the true nature of the self or the ultimate reality.

When we repeat a mantra, we are letting go of our identification with the ego and its various limitations.

The phrase "beyond all name and form" is particularly significant In spirituality, "name" refers to our conceptualizations and labels, while "form" refers to our physical bodies and appearances.

By transcending these limitations, we are able to access the unbound and unconditioned nature of existence.

We are free to experience the world anew, without the filters of our conditioned minds.

This state of being is a direct experience that can be realized through meditation or devotion.

Chant, " Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare."

" By offenseless chanting, then when we associate with Krishna through His Holy Name, all inauspicious things are cleared from the heart. So wherever you are you should always go on chanting, and that in itself will bring all perfection."

- Srila Prabhupad

[melvin]

229) Understand the ‘I am’, transcend it and realize the Absolute. In such a simplified way nobody has expounded this profound teaching.

- Nisagardatta Maharaj

Melvin:

The phrase "I am" is often associated with the ego, or the individual self, which is the sense of identity that separates us from others and the world. This "I am" is a limiting concept that creates a sense of separation and duality, leading to suffering and ignorance.

To "transcend" the "I am" means to move beyond this limited sense of self and realize one's true nature, which is often described as the Absolute, the Universe, or the Unmanifest. This realization is often referred to as Self-Realization, Enlightenment, or Moksha.

Chant, " Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare."

The maha mantra, also known as the Hare Krishna mantra, is a powerful spiritual tool that can help one transcend the limited sense of identity and reach the ultimate reality.

When we chant the maha mantra, we are using a powerful spiritual tool to pierce the ego-mind and transcend the limited sense of identity. The mantra has several effects:

1. Vibration and resonance.

The chanting of the mantra creates a specific vibration that resonates with the divine. This vibration helps to quiet the mind and connect us with the universal consciousness.

2. Detachment from material attachment.

As we chant the mantra, we begin to detach from our material attachments and desires, which are the source of our suffering.

3. Realization of the Self.

The mantra helps us to realize that our true self is not bound by the ego or material desires. We begin to see ourselves as spiritual beings, connected to the ultimate reality.

4. Self-realization:

As we continue to chant the mantra, we experience a deeper sense of connection to the universe and our true nature. This leads to self-realization, which is the understanding that our true self is beyond the limitations of space and time.

In this state of self-realization, we experience a sense of unity and oneness with all existence. We no longer identify with our ego-mind or material possessions but instead see ourselves as an integral part of the universe.

The maha mantra is a powerful tool for spiritual growth and self-realization. Regular chanting can help us transcend our limited sense of identity and experience deeper states of consciousness and connection to the ultimate reality.

[melvin]

Is there such a thing as " Truth " cancer?

Ans: While there isn't a specific medical condition known as "truth" cancer, there's  some insights and related concepts.

In the context of medicine, cancer refers to the abnormal growth and proliferation of cells, which can invade and damage surrounding tissues. Cancer is typically caused by genetic mutations or environmental factors that disrupt normal cellular processes.

In the context of philosophy, "truth" is often understood as a concept that describes the accuracy or validity of a statement, claim, or belief. It can be thought of as a state of being in harmony with reality or facts.

However, there are some related concepts that might be relevant:

1. " Information cancer"

This term has been used to describe the spread of misinformation, disinformation, or propaganda, which can have negative consequences on individuals, societies, and global communities. In this sense, "information cancer" can refer to the proliferation of false or misleading information that can harm individuals or society.

2." Alternative facts"

This term was popularized during the 2016 US presidential election to describe conflicting or contradictory information that challenges the accuracy of established facts. In this sense, "alternative facts" can be seen as a form of misinformation or disinformation that can lead to confusion and misinformed decisions.

3. " Post-truth politics" 

This term refers to political discourse that emphasizes emotions, personal beliefs, and biases over verifiable facts and evidence. In this context, "post-truth politics" can be seen as a form of political manipulation that undermines the value of truth and facts.

While these concepts are not directly related to medical cancer, they do highlight the importance of critical thinking, media literacy, and fact-checking in today's information age.

[melvin]

Can Krsna reverse Kansr back to Krsna?

In Hinduism, Krsna (also known as Krishna) is considered the supreme deity and the ultimate reality. Krsna is often referred to as the "Kartavya" or the one who is the ultimate goal or destination.

Krsna is also associated with the concept of "Lila" or divine play, which suggests that he is the one who orchestrates the universe and all its events, including the creation of cancer.

Now, regarding your question: Can Krsna reverse cancer back to Krsna?

In Hinduism, there is no explicit concept of "reversing" cancer or any other disease back to its original state. However, there are some philosophical and spiritual perspectives that might be relevant:

• Reincarnation: In Hinduism, the concept of reincarnation suggests that a soul (Jiva) takes on different bodies (Janma) based on its karma. Cancer could be seen as a manifestation of past karma, which would need to be resolved through spiritual growth and self-realization. In this sense, Krsna could be seen as the ultimate reality that transcends the cycle of birth and death, including the cycle of cancer.

• Karmic balance: Another perspective is that cancer is a manifestation of an imbalance in karma, which can be corrected through spiritual practices and self-realization. In this view, Krsna could be seen as the ultimate reality that governs the universe and maintains balance and order. By aligning oneself with Krsna's will, an individual could potentially resolve their karmic imbalances and achieve liberation from suffering.

• Spiritual healing: In some Hindu traditions, spiritual healing practices like meditation, yoga, and chanting mantras are believed to have therapeutic effects on physical and emotional health. While these practices may not literally "reverse" cancer, they can help alleviate symptoms and promote overall well-being.

In conclusion, while there is no direct answer to your question in the sense of "reversing" cancer back to its original state, there are philosophical and spiritual perspectives in Hinduism that suggest that Krsna can be seen as the ultimate reality that transcends disease and suffering. By aligning oneself with Krsna's will and engaging in spiritual practices, individuals can potentially achieve liberation from suffering and achieve self-realization.

[melvin]

Can Krsna prevent Kansr?

Krsna and Kansr are both Sanskrit words. Krsna is a proper noun, referring to the Hindu god Krishna, while Kansr is a Sanskrit word that means "cancer" in English.

So, in the context of your question, it's not possible for Krsna (the god) to prevent Kansr (cancer), as they are two completely unrelated concepts.

However, in the context of medicine, cancer is a complex and multifactorial disease that requires evidence-based treatments and research to prevent and manage. While there is no single "magic bullet" to prevent or cure cancer, there are many effective treatments and prevention strategies available.

In a broader sense, Krsna (the god) is often associated with protection, guidance, and wellness, and many people seek his blessings and guidance in their lives. However, when it comes to specific medical conditions like cancer, it's important to seek professional medical advice and treatment from qualified healthcare providers.

You are a physician, Melvin. So, what's the fuzz?

[inavalan]

Krsna is an anagram of Kansr.

• Anagrams can be traced back to the time of the ancient Greeks, and were used to find the hidden and mystical meaning in names. - "Of Anagrams", By H.B. Wheatley pg. 72, printed 1862 T. & W. Boone, New Bond Street, London

[inavalan]

Sept 19, 2024 12:10:39 GMT -5 inavalan said:

Krsna is an anagram of Kansr.

• Anagrams can be traced back to the time of the ancient Greeks, and were used to find the hidden and mystical meaning in names. - "Of Anagrams", By H.B. Wheatley pg. 72, printed 1862 T. & W. Boone, New Bond Street, London

God is an anagram of Dog. 

Dog is an embodiment of unconditional love.

[inavalan]

'Truth cancer" can be interpreted, as you and the AI did, as "cancer of the truth", a negative interpretation.

"Truth cancer" can also be interpreted as the name of a cancer of ignorance, malevolence, lie, conspiracy, manipulation, ...., which is a positive interpretation.

The former interpretation resonates with, and results in more and more intense negative experiences.

The latter interpretation generates positive expectations, resulting in positive experiences .

The former points to an existing truth that is obscured to you by something or somebody.

The latter empowers you, and opens a path for you evolvement that depends only on you.