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Post by Gopal on Apr 17, 2024 22:14:05 GMT -5
The happy side and the unhappy side should each have their own limits. If either of them becomes too extreme, it can lead to problems. Usually, we don’t interfere with the happy side because it’s enjoyable, but we often try to manage the unhappy side because that’s where we start to suffer. When we try to control them, we attract the loss of control and then it goes too deep which in turn rises the happy side to too high. Once we recognize the illusion of control, we stop trying to manipulate the unhappy side of the rollercoaster of life, and instead, we allow things to be as they are.
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Post by laughter on Apr 18, 2024 2:29:18 GMT -5
The happy side and the unhappy side should each have their own limits. If either of them becomes too extreme, it can lead to problems. Usually, we don’t interfere with the happy side because it’s enjoyable, but we often try to manage the unhappy side because that’s where we start to suffer. When we try to control them, we attract the loss of control and then it goes too deep which in turn rises the happy side to too high. Once we recognize the illusion of control, we stop trying to manipulate the unhappy side of the rollercoaster of life, and instead, we allow things to be as they are. It's deep water gopal, no doubt. Ever hear of the stoics? Their insights can be condensed into: "the only control over what happens in life is in your reaction to it". But as you yourself have observed, there is no inner, and no outer. So the flaw in their thinking is that it was from the personal perspective. Deeper water still is what Billy Shakes said: "there is no good nor bad but that thinking makes it so". And the deepest water of all my friend, is no water at all.  |
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Post by Gopal on Apr 18, 2024 2:54:27 GMT -5
The happy side and the unhappy side should each have their own limits. If either of them becomes too extreme, it can lead to problems. Usually, we don’t interfere with the happy side because it’s enjoyable, but we often try to manage the unhappy side because that’s where we start to suffer. When we try to control them, we attract the loss of control and then it goes too deep which in turn rises the happy side to too high. Once we recognize the illusion of control, we stop trying to manipulate the unhappy side of the rollercoaster of life, and instead, we allow things to be as they are. It's deep water gopal, no doubt. Ever hear of the stoics? Their insights can be condensed into: "the only control over what happens in life is in your reaction to it". But as you yourself have observed, there is no inner, and no outer. So the flaw in their thinking is that it was from the personal perspective. Deeper water still is what Billy Shakes said: "there is no good nor bad but that thinking makes it so". And the deepest water of all my friend, is no water at all. Nope, there also we don't have the control. If we start to change our reaction, then we are devising the plan. This wouldn't succeed. For me, happy takes the movement of the nice story and unhappy takes the movement of the bad story. I am not in control completely. Yes, correct, there is no inner and outer and inner and outer are the same story movement, movement of the single story confirm the ups and downside of my rollercoaster. Only good news is that, when we KNOW, for an example, I can't control the negative side (can't control anger or irritation) then we begin to walk off the battlefield, so it changes the story, change of the story has to slip from the infinite, not from our conscious mind. We are not DOER absolutely. |
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Post by laughter on Apr 18, 2024 4:22:32 GMT -5
It's deep water gopal, no doubt. Ever hear of the stoics? Their insights can be condensed into: "the only control over what happens in life is in your reaction to it". But as you yourself have observed, there is no inner, and no outer. So the flaw in their thinking is that it was from the personal perspective. Deeper water still is what Billy Shakes said: "there is no good nor bad but that thinking makes it so". And the deepest water of all my friend, is no water at all. Nope, there also we don't have the control. If we start to change our reaction, then we are devising the plan. This wouldn't succeed. For me, happy takes the movement of the nice story and unhappy takes the movement of the bad story. I am not in control completely. Yes, correct, there is no inner and outer and inner and outer are the same story movement, movement of the single story confirm the ups and downside of my rollercoaster. Only good news is that, when we KNOW, for an example, I can't control the negative side (can't control anger or irritation) then we begin to walk off the battlefield, so it changes the story, change of the story has to slip from the infinite, not from our conscious mind. We are not DOER absolutely. Yes, you point up the flaw in the stoics thinking, and say it a different way that I did: the illusion is that there is a "me" reacting to an "out there". Similarly, there is no rider on the roller coaster. There is no ride. There is no convincing you of this. The years here have made that quite clear. But you see, I refuse to lie to you. |
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Post by laughter on Apr 19, 2024 8:55:35 GMT -5
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