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Post by tenka on Oct 20, 2023 14:21:51 GMT -5
We have touched upon this before regarding a complete turnaround regarding Jeff. He seems a nice guy doesn't he, butt it really does require attention when peeps start to talk about no-one is here, or what is here is not real etc .. He kant of had a realisation that there is no one here, to then beg for mercy to God lol . You kant have a reversal of realisation. You either realise without any doubt that there is what you are here as an individual or not. You kant change your mind afterwards to that extent otherwise the realisation wasn't a realisation at all. A realisation, is a realisation . Exactly. It's all BS. But that was clear from his books already. The episode Andrew mentioned just confirmed it beyond a doubt. Now, we could accuse Jeff of deceiving and misleading other people. However, I usually see it a bit differently. Because fake gurus and their transgressions and shortcomings are usually good teaching examples. And his disillusioned followers may now be ready for the real deal. You've seen this with Niz. A lot of disillusioned, guru-hopping seekers who made the rounds in the spiritual circus for years or even decades, finally had to face the music after such episodes, realizing that they were going nowhere and just killing time and avoiding the inevitable. Once they've realized that, there was sincerity, and now they were ready for Niz' message. That's the gift of these fake gurus. So from the big picture perspective, it's all good. Well it seems evident from where I am sitting non duality just brings out some weird shite in peeps who declare this and that about Truth in relation to this. I don't think in all honestly that Jeff is fake, it's just that there isn't really a true understanding or realisation of what you are. So the starting block for a premise isn't from the right foundation. This is what I keep saying to folk who cross platforms and such likes who don't understand self and no self. Peeps all the time have comparisons made and shifts in awareness that brings about a conclusion that what was once believed can't possibly be true, but it is for some, still relative to the same ball court because transcendence hasn't occurred . It's like swapping i.p addresses thinking they are no longer on the net . |
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Post by tenka on Oct 20, 2023 14:29:46 GMT -5
We have touched upon this before regarding a complete turnaround regarding Jeff. He seems a nice guy doesn't he, butt it really does require attention when peeps start to talk about no-one is here, or what is here is not real etc .. He kant of had a realisation that there is no one here, to then beg for mercy to God lol . You kant have a reversal of realisation. You either realise without any doubt that there is what you are here as an individual or not. You kant change your mind afterwards to that extent otherwise the realisation wasn't a realisation at all. A realisation, is a realisation . The idea of 'spiritual realization' does imply a finality...a non-reversal, and so perhaps in Jeff's case...and many cases....there was 'insight', but not realization. I'm probably more an insight guy than a realization guy too, though I reflected for a minute before I wrote that sentence, and certainly there have been moments in which there has been an internal 'shift' in which I've been aware that nothing would be quite the same, ever again. And so far, I've been right about the moments. Of course, in one sense, every moment is unique, but I guess you know what I mean. It all depends on ones vantage point doesn't it that then entertains realisations and insights. An insight into oneself where there is awareness that what you are can exist beyond the physical for some would be the pinnacle of their experience and therefore relate anything physical to not being what you are. This could be referred to as a realisation as such butt not a realisation that there is what you are that is both physical and not. There is insight present in order to allow one to compare self of the physical to the non physical but even though the insight was correct, it's not the bigger picture. There are so many layers to what one realises in relation to that they are. It kinda depends on where on is at . If we talk about vibrations, levels, frequencies, then insights and realisations reflecting these, would be different depending on these foundations. |
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Post by Reefs on Oct 23, 2023 5:44:07 GMT -5
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