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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 12, 2023 14:01:38 GMT -5
Obviously, I've been exploring some videos of Peter Ralston. But this one first explains my problem with A-H, and then I realized it describes sree pretty well, if not perfectly. He seems to have designed his life so as to avoid emotional entanglements and irritation and suffering. But Ralston describes that attempt as ending up in solitary (confinement), with robots pushing you food through a slot. I immediately thought, sree. (Where are you dude?) The title is, freedom is not being able to do what you want, not getting what you want. So this is my problem with A-H, also, which I've brought up several times, just as a problem. We did not choose who we are as a cultural self. Most people (not meaning most people here) never get past who they think they are, do not get past the small s self. So the sss rules their lives, and we/they chase one thing after another, but they never stop to consider, how did I arrive at the myself who thinks it has to have all these things? A-H makes no distinction between this false sense of self, and the actual ground of who/what-one-is. So I'd say a lot of A-H people just chase their tail all their lives, and end up with nothing, life is a box of CrackerJacks and you end up with a plastic toy in the bottom. So I just wanted to share this video which seems to encapsulate this very well. Any and all thoughts welcome. Reefs, has A-H ever talked about just getting out of the self-perpetuating loop most are trapped in? The question is always, who chooses, who desires? Sure, you might get your desires, but it's just sawdust.
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Post by andrew on Jan 12, 2023 14:59:53 GMT -5
If you are asking if Abe points away from 'the person' or 'the cultured self', then yes...they do. Not in a non-dual way specifically though.. My view is that Abraham use our 'wants and desires' as a carrot. Their true invitation is twofold 1) To take responsibility for our focus/attention and our thoughts-feelings and 2) To be unconditionally happy no matter what the condition is. They'll say that when you are unconditionally happy, you'll no longer care about the desire i.e when it comes, you won't care about it, it will be a natural step. So I think that illustrates what I mean about the 'want/desire' being a carrot more than anything else. Ultimately, they are saying, that what matters is your state....Now. They make it all sound easy, because they have to, but it's actually a hell of an enormous invitation.
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Post by inavalan on Jan 12, 2023 15:37:51 GMT -5
If you are asking if Abe points away from 'the person' or 'the cultured self', then yes...they do. Not in a non-dual way specifically though.. My view is that Abraham use our 'wants and desires' as a carrot. Their true invitation is twofold 1) To take responsibility for our focus/attention and our thoughts-feelings and 2) To be unconditionally happy no matter what the condition is. They'll say that when you are unconditionally happy, you'll no longer care about the desire i.e when it comes, you won't care about it, it will be a natural step. So I think that illustrates what I mean about the 'want/desire' being a carrot more than anything else. Ultimately, they are saying, that what matters is your state....Now. They make it all sound easy, because they have to, but it's actually a hell of an enormous invitation. That quote sounds diabetes inducive ... EDIT for: a smaller / healthier scoop.
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Post by andrew on Jan 12, 2023 18:53:26 GMT -5
If you are asking if Abe points away from 'the person' or 'the cultured self', then yes...they do. Not in a non-dual way specifically though.. My view is that Abraham use our 'wants and desires' as a carrot. Their true invitation is twofold 1) To take responsibility for our focus/attention and our thoughts-feelings and 2) To be unconditionally happy no matter what the condition is. They'll say that when you are unconditionally happy, you'll no longer care about the desire i.e when it comes, you won't care about it, it will be a natural step. So I think that illustrates what I mean about the 'want/desire' being a carrot more than anything else. Ultimately, they are saying, that what matters is your state....Now. They make it all sound easy, because they have to, but it's actually a hell of an enormous invitation. That quote sounds diabetes inducive ...
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