Abraham-Hicks (vintage edition)

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Sept 12, 2020 11:18:17 GMT -5 stardustpilgrim said:

Sept 12, 2020 11:09:45 GMT -5 @gopalan said:

You can give 1000s of example like this but when you can't prove I am wrong, You are including the possibility that outer world doesn't in itself. If it doesn't exist in itself, are you not creating while you are perceiving?

I'm not interested in logic.

You are using Logic, you are using evidence to prove something to me.

[stardustpilgrim]

Sept 12, 2020 11:33:56 GMT -5 @gopalan said:

Sept 12, 2020 11:18:17 GMT -5 stardustpilgrim said:

I'm not interested in logic.

You are using Logic, you are using evidence to prove something to me.

No I'm not, I'm describing experience. In my mailman post yesterday, I described my experience. Maybe, since you are a programmer, maybe this is a good question. Which is more simple? Say you design a virtual reality program. What's more simple, the virtual reality program or the writer of the program plus the program?

[andrew]

Aug 31, 2020 14:13:35 GMT -5 tenka said:

Just saying hi mate ... Hope you and your family are well ...

Check your inbox sometime mate.

[Reefs]

Complaining about Complaining Is Also Complaining

Abe: Most people do not realize that as they continue to complain about, they disallow their own physical well-being. Many do not realize that before they were complaining about an aching body or a chronic disease, they were complaining about many other things first. It does not matter if the object of your complaint is someone you are angry with, behavior in others that you believe is wrong, or something wrong with your own physical body—complaining is complaining, and it disallows improvement.

[andrew]

"You have to know where you are. If you are always in alignment, and you feel good almost all of the time, and you are certain about your relationship with your body, then you would never need medication or a vaccination, you can get it from the inside out, your Inner-Being will deliver that to you.
Sometimes it is logical, when you're not sure about that, to follow a path that has proven itself by science or by evidence.
Abraham, should I take the vaccine? You have to figure out within yourself, which feels the best to you.
If you decide that you're not going to take the vaccination and you are fearful of it, you can't trust your guidance. If you're insecure, you cannot trust that guidance. If you're jealous or enraged or revengful or angry, you can't trust that guidance. If you're worried or doubtful, you cannot trust your guidance, if you're frustrated or pessimistic, you can't trust your guidance. You can trust your guidance when you're not pushing against in a strong way, in optimism and expectation.
At Esther's greatest state of alignment, she said to us: " What do you think Abraham, should I take the vaccine?" And we said 'If we were standing in your physical shoes, we would.
Esther didn't say, 'That must mean that I'm not in complete alignment with who I am',
and we say, That is what that means, sometimes you are, and sometimes you aren't.
Someone else might ask us the same question, and we would say 'If we were standing in your physical shoes, we wouldn't take it.'
Abraham Now Broadcast / January 16, 2021

[andrew]

Jan 29, 2021 12:21:18 GMT -5 @whynot said:

I'll take the vaccine as soon as available and I'm not the least bit hesitant to do so


let's hear back in six months and see how that decision is looked back on...

Right, the basic point I took from their message was 'do what feels most right/aligned to you'

So sounds like you are making the best decision for you.

I think it's a case of going with our instinct. I know tons of people whose instinct is to take it...so then take it. I also know tons of people whose instinct is to leave it, so then leave it.

Those that aren't sure, maybe wait until the instinct is clear I guess.

[inavalan]

Jan 29, 2021 12:37:24 GMT -5 andrew said:

Jan 29, 2021 12:21:18 GMT -5 @whynot said:

I'll take the vaccine as soon as available and I'm not the least bit hesitant to do so

let's hear back in six months and see how that decision is looked back on...

Right, the basic point I took from their message was 'do what feels most right/aligned to you'

So sounds like you are making the best decision for you.

I think it's a case of going with our instinct. I know tons of people whose instinct is to take it...so then take it. I also know tons of people whose instinct is to leave it, so then leave it.

Those that aren't sure, maybe wait until the instinct is clear I guess.

The problem arises when one feels entitled to impose their opinions on others, and when those opinions are fear-based those people feel even more entitled: "if one isn't fearful, that one must be and is wrong" (nonsense).

From this recent Abraham quote, I understand that he says that everybody should follow only their own inner source of guidance, and understand that that doesn't apply to everybody else! (makes sense)

It is ridiculous how people don't realize they're manipulated.

[Reefs]

Jan 29, 2021 12:21:18 GMT -5 @whynot said:

I'll take the vaccine as soon as available and I'm not the least bit hesitant to do so


let's hear back in six months and see how that decision is looked back on...

You must feel really vulnerable if you are in such a hurry.

[andrew]

Jan 30, 2021 5:55:57 GMT -5 @whynot said:

Jan 29, 2021 12:37:24 GMT -5 andrew said:

Right, the basic point I took from their message was 'do what feels most right/aligned to you'

So sounds like you are making the best decision for you.

I think it's a case of going with our instinct. I know tons of people whose instinct is to take it...so then take it. I also know tons of people whose instinct is to leave it, so then leave it.

Those that aren't sure, maybe wait until the instinct is clear I guess.

Well my wife is in the high risk group, so wearing a mask in public, and taking a vaccine which has been approved by the FDA, seems considerate, and practical

Yes, I can see that it would seem considerate (and 'practical', though I'm less clear about what that word means that I am about the word 'considerate').

[andrew]

Jan 30, 2021 6:44:45 GMT -5 @whynot said:

Jan 30, 2021 1:46:18 GMT -5 Reefs said:

You must feel really vulnerable if you are in such a hurry.

Well I'm human so of course I'm vulnerable but from the sound of things it might be a while before my age group/criterias becomes eligible. But who cares, why worry about it, the vaccines appear to be safe.

Probably the word 'feel' was important there.

[andrew]

Jan 30, 2021 8:04:01 GMT -5 @whynot said:

Jan 30, 2021 7:37:57 GMT -5 andrew said:

Probably the word 'feel' was important there.

What I feel mostly is curiosity about why people have over reacted to the pandemic. Like you, for example.

yes as said on the other thread, I've found the reaction interesting too. As said, I think a lot of it has been a sort of 'hypnosis' created by a mixture of media, government, advertising, WHO etc..

[Reefs]

Jan 30, 2021 6:44:45 GMT -5 @whynot said:

Jan 30, 2021 1:46:18 GMT -5 Reefs said:

You must feel really vulnerable if you are in such a hurry.

Well I'm human so of course I'm vulnerable but from the sound of things it might be a while before my age group/criterias becomes eligible. But who cares, why worry about it, the vaccines appear to be safe.

So then is it fair to say that taking the shot would be your personal workaround to feeling less vulnerable?

[Reefs]

Here's another, rather long but excellent A-H conversation about vaccines:

Q: I have a couple of kids and that's been an area of debate for me, immunizations. Of course we know there are risks with immunizations, one in 25,000 per vaccine that can have an adverse reaction to immunization. Of course we know that a large component of the population is not even immunized and those of typically the lower social economic groups, and they don't have big outbreaks in those groups. So basically, my question, my dilemma is: should I immunize, should I not immunize? If the fear factor that medicine puts out is, if you don't immunize, you're going to get all this. And I haven't immunized my 4-year old, and he's been the healthiest kid in his kindergarten class.

A: Well, you have to decide as an individual what is your path of least resistance? In other words, if you really believe in the importance and value of the immunization, and you don't do it, then that's not the Path of least resistance for you. There's no right or wrong answer in this. There are children who are immunized who are well. There are children who are not who are well. As you say, your past experience tends to haunt you. You worry about epidemics.

If you were moving to a healthier and healthier population, then we would continue to enjoy conversations about disease control and immunizations. But what we see happening is, as quickly as you find some vaccine or some methodology to quell or squelch some disease, a new disease, never known to man, pops up. Resistance is going to show up in disease; and until you start treating resistance, you will always have disease.

You see, it's sort of like wanting to contain the water in a vessel that is made of clay. And so, it gets a hole and you plug it up, so it gets another hole and you plug it up, and it gets another hole and you plug it up, and it gets another... And this is sort of what medicine is doing, just plugging up holes. And in the process, it is making people feel less secure, not more secure. It is making them more a vibrational match to disease, not less of a vibrational match to disease. And, most importantly, it is sapping the joy out of their life.

As humans have come to believe that the longevity of life is more important than the quality of life, then you find ways to keep yourselves alive for longer and longer periods of time, under the trauma that something could go wrong. And we are just not that sure that it is the best way of going about it. If we were standing in physical shoes, we would be looking for the path of least resistance to believe in the self-healing qualities of our physical body. And we would not be promoting so much outside intervention, because the outside intervention, as you just said, keeps squirreling around. In other words, every time you turn around, they have a new idea about what is the best process for all of that, you see.

Q: What you say actually parallels my thinking and my belief system. But what happens when I have to appease a spouse that's, maybe, not in the same place that I am? And there's a little bit of conflict there?

A: Then you find the Path of Least Resistance. You say, as you said to us, "While it may not help, it will not harm. This is a non-issue. Give the kid a shot." In other words, find your path of least resistance within it. You can play both sides of that, and you played them equally well. You gave us the case history that said it is not necessary, and you gave us the case history that says that it can be of value.

There is no one path that is always right and one path that is always wrong. Your work is not about choosing the right action, it is about finding the right way of feeling about it, preceding any action. And so, the worst thing that any of you can do to yourselves, is to do something that you believe is wrong, because that's the worst case of contradicted Energy, you see.

We are appreciating this very much, because you're a spokesperson for many. And you live in a physical world where people come to you and they're not coming to you saying, "Show me how to align my energy with well-being." They're coming to you saying, "I've got this disease that jumped into my body, and I don't deserve it, and I don't want it, and you’ve got to get it out of me." And so, you're not in a position where you can reorient their thinking overnight. It is kind of you to treat their symptoms. It is kind of you to give them paths of least resistance. In other words, religion gives people paths of least resistance. Medicine gives people paths of least resistance.

We would like it if you could just know your well-being, know your worthiness, know that all is well, and thrive. We would love it if you could just pick from the buffet of life and just enjoy every part of it. But that doesn't mean, when you find yourself in a place that you do not want to be, that we don't enjoy all of the variety of paths that you use to bring yourselves back.

Esther felt great discomfort as she would watch television commercials and she would feel that they were talking people into illnesses, trying to frighten them. Esther understands that if the commercial can activate fear within you, that then you might go and buy whatever they're selling in order to soothe the fear that wasn't there until they activated it to begin with. She understands all of that. But at the same time, she also now understands that there are all kinds of people that do not know what she knows, that have been raised in families where fear was what they were taught. There are all kinds of people that are in places where they're not where they want to be, and they have no clue about how to get where they want to be. And isn't it lovely that there are so many people that are there willing to guide those who feel they need guidance, or willing to teach those who are wanting to be taught, or willing to soothe those who are seeking soothing. In other words, you are interplaying with one another in marvelous ways.

Abraham-Hicks, 2002

[inavalan]

Jan 30, 2021 10:40:15 GMT -5 Reefs said:

Here's another, rather long but excellent A-H conversation about vaccines:

Q: I have a couple of kids and that's been an area of debate for me, immunizations. Of course we know there are risks with immunizations, one in 25,000 per vaccine that can have an adverse reaction to immunization. Of course we know that a large component of the population is not even immunized and those of typically the lower social economic groups, and they don't have big outbreaks in those groups. So basically, my question, my dilemma is: should I immunize, should I not immunize? If the fear factor that medicine puts out is, if you don't immunize, you're going to get all this. And I haven't immunized my 4-year old, and he's been the healthiest kid in his kindergarten class.

A: Well, you have to decide as an individual what is your path of least resistance? In other words, if you really believe in the importance and value of the immunization, and you don't do it, then that's not the Path of least resistance for you. There's no right or wrong answer in this. There are children who are immunized who are well. There are children who are not who are well. As you say, your past experience tends to haunt you. You worry about epidemics.

If you were moving to a healthier and healthier population, then we would continue to enjoy conversations about disease control and immunizations. But what we see happening is, as quickly as you find some vaccine or some methodology to quell or squelch some disease, a new disease, never known to man, pops up. Resistance is going to show up in disease; and until you start treating resistance, you will always have disease.

You see, it's sort of like wanting to contain the water in a vessel that is made of clay. And so, it gets a hole and you plug it up, so it gets another hole and you plug it up, and it gets another hole and you plug it up, and it gets another... And this is sort of what medicine is doing, just plugging up holes. And in the process, it is making people feel less secure, not more secure. It is making them more a vibrational match to disease, not less of a vibrational match to disease. And, most importantly, it is sapping the joy out of their life.

As humans have come to believe that the longevity of life is more important than the quality of life, then you find ways to keep yourselves alive for longer and longer periods of time, under the trauma that something could go wrong. And we are just not that sure that it is the best way of going about it. If we were standing in physical shoes, we would be looking for the path of least resistance to believe in the self-healing qualities of our physical body. And we would not be promoting so much outside intervention, because the outside intervention, as you just said, keeps squirreling around. In other words, every time you turn around, they have a new idea about what is the best process for all of that, you see.

Q: What you say actually parallels my thinking and my belief system. But what happens when I have to appease a spouse that's, maybe, not in the same place that I am? And there's a little bit of conflict there?

A: Then you find the Path of Least Resistance. You say, as you said to us, "While it may not help, it will not harm. This is a non-issue. Give the kid a shot." In other words, find your path of least resistance within it. You can play both sides of that, and you played them equally well. You gave us the case history that said it is not necessary, and you gave us the case history that says that it can be of value.

There is no one path that is always right and one path that is always wrong. Your work is not about choosing the right action, it is about finding the right way of feeling about it, preceding any action. And so, the worst thing that any of you can do to yourselves, is to do something that you believe is wrong, because that's the worst case of contradicted Energy, you see.

We are appreciating this very much, because you're a spokesperson for many. And you live in a physical world where people come to you and they're not coming to you saying, "Show me how to align my energy with well-being." They're coming to you saying, "I've got this disease that jumped into my body, and I don't deserve it, and I don't want it, and you’ve got to get it out of me." And so, you're not in a position where you can reorient their thinking overnight. It is kind of you to treat their symptoms. It is kind of you to give them paths of least resistance. In other words, religion gives people paths of least resistance. Medicine gives people paths of least resistance.

We would like it if you could just know your well-being, know your worthiness, know that all is well, and thrive. We would love it if you could just pick from the buffet of life and just enjoy every part of it. But that doesn't mean, when you find yourself in a place that you do not want to be, that we don't enjoy all of the variety of paths that you use to bring yourselves back.

Esther felt great discomfort as she would watch television commercials and she would feel that they were talking people into illnesses, trying to frighten them. Esther understands that if the commercial can activate fear within you, that then you might go and buy whatever they're selling in order to soothe the fear that wasn't there until they activated it to begin with. She understands all of that. But at the same time, she also now understands that there are all kinds of people that do not know what she knows, that have been raised in families where fear was what they were taught. There are all kinds of people that are in places where they're not where they want to be, and they have no clue about how to get where they want to be. And isn't it lovely that there are so many people that are there willing to guide those who feel they need guidance, or willing to teach those who are wanting to be taught, or willing to soothe those who are seeking soothing. In other words, you are interplaying with one another in marvelous ways.

Abraham-Hicks, 2002

I highlighted in boldface what drew my attention (confirmed my opinions ). I believe that the red highlighted phrase might've been sarcasm, although the following statement seems to contradict that.

[Reefs]

Jan 30, 2021 18:06:00 GMT -5 inavalan said:

Jan 30, 2021 10:40:15 GMT -5 Reefs said:

Here's another, rather long but excellent A-H conversation about vaccines:

I highlighted in boldface what drew my attention (confirmed my opinions ). I believe that the red highlighted phrase might've been sarcasm, although the following statement seems to contradict that.

What I hear Abe saying is that, basically, the strictly pro and the strictly anti camp both have some flawful logic going (aka resistance/contradictory vibration).

The part in red is the 100,000 feet perspective, of course. Which is Abe's native perspective.