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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2023 12:14:19 GMT -5
I have been thinking that AI can outperform where rules are clearly defined and possibilities can be known. But after seeing ChatGPT, my thoughts have changed. It differs from Google by creating the content. It writes programs but not correct all the time, but it most closely achieved the result or minor modification ia required. We came to the time where we can speak to the computer.
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Post by lolly on Feb 20, 2023 3:12:36 GMT -5
The problem with AI is the neuro-link. It collects brain electrical data and uses it to learn how you think so that you can control some sort of machine with your mind. Someone owns that data, and they will use it the other way round. Ypou will think you are choosing to walk turn left and so forth, but actually, they will be putting those actions in your brain. They are calling this 'thought transparency'.
The Gpt stage is a normalising stage. People will tell the machine to create narrative, but the machine is atually telling you what that narrative is. It's a con.
In the future, It is worse than what I said before. It will still be writing the posts for me and auto responding, but I will think I'm doing it myself. Then I'll be amazed at how good my posts are because I will think it's coming from me, when in fact, I'll be the machine they control from my brain.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2023 4:06:17 GMT -5
The problem with AI is the neuro-link. It collects brain electrical data and uses it to learn how you think so that you can control some sort of machine with your mind. Someone owns that data, and they will use it the other way round. Ypou will think you are choosing to walk turn left and so forth, but actually, they will be putting those actions in your brain. They are calling this 'thought transparency'. The Gpt stage is a normalising stage. People will tell the machine to create narrative, but the machine is atually telling you what that narrative is. It's a con. In the future, It is worse than what I said before. It will still be writing the posts for me and auto responding, but I will think I'm doing it myself. Then I'll be amazed at how good my posts are because I will think it's coming from me, when in fact, I'll be the machine they control from my brain. Although I am uncertain if it will ever achieve the level you are talking now, I am absolutely astounded by the way in which ChatGPT is aiding me in my work. Its ability to generate code and assist me in a variety of other ways is truly remarkable. With the help of ChatGPT, I am now able to accomplish things that were previously unattainable, including some of the ideas I had envisioned in the past but was unable to implement. It is truly remarkable how much ChatGPT has transformed the way I work, and I can only see positive outcomes in the future. |
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Post by laughter on Feb 20, 2023 6:47:25 GMT -5
The problem with AI is the neuro-link. It collects brain electrical data and uses it to learn how you think so that you can control some sort of machine with your mind. Someone owns that data, and they will use it the other way round. Ypou will think you are choosing to walk turn left and so forth, but actually, they will be putting those actions in your brain. They are calling this 'thought transparency'. The Gpt stage is a normalising stage. People will tell the machine to create narrative, but the machine is atually telling you what that narrative is. It's a con. In the future, It is worse than what I said before. It will still be writing the posts for me and auto responding, but I will think I'm doing it myself. Then I'll be amazed at how good my posts are because I will think it's coming from me, when in fact, I'll be the machine they control from my brain. Although I am uncertain if it will ever achieve the level you are talking now, I am absolutely astounded by the way in which ChatGPT is aiding me in my work. Its ability to generate code and assist me in a variety of other ways is truly remarkable. With the help of ChatGPT, I am now able to accomplish things that were previously unattainable, including some of the ideas I had envisioned in the past but was unable to implement. It is truly remarkable how much ChatGPT has transformed the way I work, and I can only see positive outcomes in the future. Folks who've been imagining this for long before either of us were born eventually wind up at the idea of the "singularity". I could point you to fiction that's decades old that illustrates this point. Functionally, you have to anticipate that eventually, we'll be able to create systems capable of modifying themselves and even changing over time in such ways that we don't understand as and after those changes occur. Even then though, as reefs has pointed out, there is the plug - but again, some of the futurists have imagined scenarios where the AI gains control of the power source via robotics (duh, but still, an energy source is always a vulnerability of a force). Also, even an AI capable of generating insights beyond that of human capability will still ultimately be reflecting the goals, designs and bias of the initial system developers. |
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Post by laughter on Feb 20, 2023 6:48:01 GMT -5
Stumbled onto this today, and found it an insightful take. This is an example of what that author was referring to, and I find it just banana-balls that the bot user gets so carried away, so sort of "lost" in the interaction. The development teams are outdoing themselves.  Just what we need, a brand new way for people to entrance themselves.  That's a good article which correctly characterizes the AI as a super text prediction system. As I'm typing this out on my Android phone it's trying to predict the next word. My God my phone is sentient!  |
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Post by laughter on Feb 20, 2023 6:50:38 GMT -5
The problem with AI is the neuro-link. It collects brain electrical data and uses it to learn how you think so that you can control some sort of machine with your mind. Someone owns that data, and they will use it the other way round. Ypou will think you are choosing to walk turn left and so forth, but actually, they will be putting those actions in your brain. They are calling this 'thought transparency'. The Gpt stage is a normalising stage. People will tell the machine to create narrative, but the machine is atually telling you what that narrative is. It's a con. In the future, It is worse than what I said before. It will still be writing the posts for me and auto responding, but I will think I'm doing it myself. Then I'll be amazed at how good my posts are because I will think it's coming from me, when in fact, I'll be the machine they control from my brain. Musky and the would-be cyborgs have a point about the efficiency of data transfer between organic and silicon. And your point about the potential peril is just as clear. Inevitabilities simply are what they are, after all. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2023 6:54:27 GMT -5
Although I am uncertain if it will ever achieve the level you are talking now, I am absolutely astounded by the way in which ChatGPT is aiding me in my work. Its ability to generate code and assist me in a variety of other ways is truly remarkable. With the help of ChatGPT, I am now able to accomplish things that were previously unattainable, including some of the ideas I had envisioned in the past but was unable to implement. It is truly remarkable how much ChatGPT has transformed the way I work, and I can only see positive outcomes in the future. Folks who've been imagining this for long before either of us were born eventually wind up at the idea of the "singularity". I could point you to fiction that's decades old that illustrates this point. Functionally, you have to anticipate that eventually, we'll be able to create systems capable of modifying themselves and even changing over time in such ways that we don't understand as and after those changes occur. Even then though, as reefs has pointed out, there is the plug - but again, some of the futurists have imagined scenarios where the AI gains control of the power source via robotics (duh, but still, an energy source is always a vulnerability of a force). Also, even an AI capable of generating insights beyond that of human capability will still ultimately be reflecting the goals, designs and bias of the initial system developers. Haven't you seen the movies where the guy is desperately reaching out to cut the power but he gets zapped by the AI before he can pull the switch? C'mon man! 😃 |
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Post by andrew on Feb 20, 2023 10:14:18 GMT -5
The problem with AI is the neuro-link. It collects brain electrical data and uses it to learn how you think so that you can control some sort of machine with your mind. Someone owns that data, and they will use it the other way round. Ypou will think you are choosing to walk turn left and so forth, but actually, they will be putting those actions in your brain. They are calling this 'thought transparency'. The Gpt stage is a normalising stage. People will tell the machine to create narrative, but the machine is atually telling you what that narrative is. It's a con. In the future, It is worse than what I said before. It will still be writing the posts for me and auto responding, but I will think I'm doing it myself. Then I'll be amazed at how good my posts are because I will think it's coming from me, when in fact, I'll be the machine they control from my brain. Although I am uncertain if it will ever achieve the level you are talking now, I am absolutely astounded by the way in which ChatGPT is aiding me in my work. Its ability to generate code and assist me in a variety of other ways is truly remarkable. With the help of ChatGPT, I am now able to accomplish things that were previously unattainable, including some of the ideas I had envisioned in the past but was unable to implement. It is truly remarkable how much ChatGPT has transformed the way I work, and I can only see positive outcomes in the future. In terms of AI specifically, I can only see negative outcomes |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2023 11:19:23 GMT -5
Although I am uncertain if it will ever achieve the level you are talking now, I am absolutely astounded by the way in which ChatGPT is aiding me in my work. Its ability to generate code and assist me in a variety of other ways is truly remarkable. With the help of ChatGPT, I am now able to accomplish things that were previously unattainable, including some of the ideas I had envisioned in the past but was unable to implement. It is truly remarkable how much ChatGPT has transformed the way I work, and I can only see positive outcomes in the future. Folks who've been imagining this for long before either of us were born eventually wind up at the idea of the "singularity". I could point you to fiction that's decades old that illustrates this point. Functionally, you have to anticipate that eventually, we'll be able to create systems capable of modifying themselves and even changing over time in such ways that we don't understand as and after those changes occur. Even then though, as reefs has pointed out, there is the plug - but again, some of the futurists have imagined scenarios where the AI gains control of the power source via robotics (duh, but still, an energy source is always a vulnerability of a force). Also, even an AI capable of generating insights beyond that of human capability will still ultimately be reflecting the goals, designs and bias of the initial system developers. Undoubtedly, I have been thoroughly amazed by my recent discoveries over the past three weeks. This journey began with my fortuitous encounter with a news channel, which piqued my curiosity, leading me to delve into its vast capabilities. From my investigation, I have gleaned the following: Firstly, it possesses an extensive repository of data, which is one of its distinctive features. Additionally, its proficiency in understanding the English language surpasses that of any other machine. No matter how intricate or specific your query may be, in the event that you require further clarification, you can pose additional questions, and it will delve deeper into the subject matter to provide you with the necessary clarity. Furthermore, while Google conducts searches for web pages, this machine is capable of producing content, thus distinguishing it from its counterparts. If I were to request that it write or translate code from one language to another, it would do so, although the accuracy cannot be guaranteed due to the absence of a compiler or interpreter to validate it. For instance, if I were to reference the Bible, this machine could retrieve verses related to my inquiry, providing me with the evidence to support my query. Thus, If I asked why Paul believed that Jesus was the Son of God, it would supply me with the relevant scripture. I could continue to pose logical questions, and the machine would respond as if a human were on the other end of the conversation. Hence, I can confidently assert that in my perspective, this machine is executing its task remarkably well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2023 11:29:27 GMT -5
Although I am uncertain if it will ever achieve the level you are talking now, I am absolutely astounded by the way in which ChatGPT is aiding me in my work. Its ability to generate code and assist me in a variety of other ways is truly remarkable. With the help of ChatGPT, I am now able to accomplish things that were previously unattainable, including some of the ideas I had envisioned in the past but was unable to implement. It is truly remarkable how much ChatGPT has transformed the way I work, and I can only see positive outcomes in the future. In terms of AI specifically, I can only see negative outcomes It is performing its task exceptionally well in my opinion. |
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Post by andrew on Feb 20, 2023 11:56:35 GMT -5
In terms of AI specifically, I can only see negative outcomes It is performing its task exceptionally well in my opinion. Yes, I don't see problems in terms of task performance, I'd guess AI could potentially outperform humans in most regards. |
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Post by inavalan on Feb 20, 2023 15:15:34 GMT -5
It is performing its task exceptionally well in my opinion. Yes, I don't see problems in terms of task performance, I'd guess AI could potentially outperform humans in most regards. : what are humans, what is AI, what are humans here to do (individually and en masse), could AI impact that, positively, negatively? From my perspective, it still matters only what I believe, what I think, what are my expectations. AI has the potential to good and / or bad, to escape human control, to be used by some humans to do horrific things, to bring to you much more useful information, faster. But, ultimately the impact is individual, and that depends only on one's own beliefs and expectations. It is as with Niz and his smoking. Nobody and nothing can impose a reality on you if you don't accept it at some inner level. Nothing small / large, intelligent / dumb, human / natural, ... To me, this AI seems something that coulda, shoulda, woulda facilitate serendipitous opportunities for the individual learning, giving much faster access to information that still needs to be intuitively interpreted by everyone according to his "school-grade". |
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Post by inavalan on Feb 20, 2023 15:23:20 GMT -5
In terms of AI specifically, I can only see negative outcomes Surely, for those who "create by default". |
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Post by inavalan on Feb 20, 2023 15:34:57 GMT -5
The problem with AI is the neuro-link. It collects brain electrical data and uses it to learn how you think so that you can control some sort of machine with your mind. Someone owns that data, and they will use it the other way round. Ypou will think you are choosing to walk turn left and so forth, but actually, they will be putting those actions in your brain. They are calling this 'thought transparency'. The Gpt stage is a normalising stage. People will tell the machine to create narrative, but the machine is atually telling you what that narrative is. It's a con. In the future, It is worse than what I said before. It will still be writing the posts for me and auto responding, but I will think I'm doing it myself. Then I'll be amazed at how good my posts are because I will think it's coming from me, when in fact, I'll be the machine they control from my brain. Musky and the would-be cyborgs have a point about the efficiency of data transfer between organic and silicon. And your point about the potential peril is just as clear. Inevitabilities simply are what they are, after all. As far as I understand, nothing is unavoidable, and all is long in the making before it happens. Maybe you meant the same thing by " what they are". Those would-be cyborgs lack intuition. It is intelligence gone berserk. But it doesn't matter anyway: it is like a cell which decided to be cancerous; its impact on the body gestalt is decided at the gestalt level. |
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Post by andrew on Feb 20, 2023 16:32:34 GMT -5
Yes, I don't see problems in terms of task performance, I'd guess AI could potentially outperform humans in most regards. : what are humans, what is AI, what are humans here to do (individually and en masse), could AI impact that, positively, negatively? From my perspective, it still matters only what I believe, what I think, what are my expectations. AI has the potential to good and / or bad, to escape human control, to be used by some humans to do horrific things, to bring to you much more useful information, faster. But, ultimately the impact is individual, and that depends only on one's own beliefs and expectations. It is as with Niz and his smoking. Nobody and nothing can impose a reality on you if you don't accept it at some inner level. Nothing small / large, intelligent / dumb, human / natural, ... To me, this AI seems something that coulda, shoulda, woulda facilitate serendipitous opportunities for the individual learning, giving much faster access to information that still needs to be intuitively interpreted by everyone according to his "school-grade". I see AI as a sort of a 'red herring'. I am certainly open to changes in technology, and believe there will be many positive uses of new technology in the coming period of time. But AI....I see as a... falsity...a manifestation of the negative ego, and of patriarchy. Even from an information point of view, I believe that our own brains, intuition, pineal gland etc....provide far more potential for knowledge than AI does. I can't easily see an AI path in which humans wouldn't come to depend on it, and then humans become basically redundant, or enslaved by it. I could be wrong. Maybe I'm just in a bad mood  I think I may have argued with AI on twitter at times. Things get weird when they find themselves in a position when they can't win an argument. |
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Just what we need, a brand new way for people to entrance themselves. 
