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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 13:07:35 GMT -5
Conditioning becomes demonic due to the want for conditioning to be angelic. Which qualifies it as parallelogramatic in nature. Conditioning is not "demonic" or angelic, it is mechanical. Speak for yourself. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Feb 6, 2018 16:39:27 GMT -5
Conditioning is not "demonic" or angelic, it is mechanical. Speak for yourself. Conditioning, as in conditioned response, as in knee-jerk reaction, as in automatic (autopilot) as no-pause-to consider consequences, IOW, mechanical. Being conscious creates a space to be other than conditioned. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 17:38:14 GMT -5
Conditioning, as in conditioned response, as in knee-jerk reaction, as in automatic (autopilot) as no-pause-to consider consequences, IOW, mechanical. Being conscious creates a space to be other than conditioned. You're saying in this thread that you've been nourished by the Great Mother for 44 years, so how come you're only now writing about being conscious so that you can create a space to be other than conditioned? |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Feb 6, 2018 20:09:07 GMT -5
Conditioning, as in conditioned response, as in knee-jerk reaction, as in automatic (autopilot) as no-pause-to consider consequences, IOW, mechanical. Being conscious creates a space to be other than conditioned. You're saying in this thread that you've been nourished by the Great Mother for 44 years, so how come you're only now writing about being conscious so that you can create a space to be other than conditioned? I've been here almost nine years, really longer because Shawn used to run a few of us off when we tried to dialogue on Spiritual Friends Locator before there was a forum, that was probably over 15 years ago. I've written about almost nothing else. |
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Post by Reefs on Feb 6, 2018 23:14:05 GMT -5
I never read the novel. I only watched the movie. "What is aliveness?" is basically the same question. It kinda fores you to do a Maharshi. * stare * Words like aliveness, life, consciousness, experience, are defined in the most 'common' context of the person, and so they result in staring when applied more broadly. Same thing that happens with Awareness, Consciousness, Love, Peace. I would say a flower has aliveness, consciousness and experiences, but a flower doesn't have a brain or the same senses as a person, so I would first have to redefine those terms a bit. Yeah, essentially same same but different purpose for being and therefore different consensus trance. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 5:55:59 GMT -5
You're saying in this thread that you've been nourished by the Great Mother for 44 years, so how come you're only now writing about being conscious so that you can create a space to be other than conditioned? I've been here almost nine years, really longer because Shawn used to run a few of us off when we tried to dialogue on Spiritual Locator before there was a forum, that was probably over 15 years ago. I've written about almost nothing else. You've been writing about being conscious so that you can create a space to be other than conditioned, for the last 9 years? Ever wonder whether you've been giving away what you need? |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Feb 7, 2018 9:12:38 GMT -5
I've been here almost nine years, really longer because Shawn used to run a few of us off when we tried to dialogue on Spiritual Locator before there was a forum, that was probably over 15 years ago. I've written about almost nothing else. You've been writing about being conscious so that you can create a space to be other than conditioned, for the last 9 years? Ever wonder whether you've been giving away what you need? No, writing about it has nothing to do with it (being other than conditioned). |
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Post by Reefs on Feb 7, 2018 12:45:20 GMT -5
Awesome!  Humor and A.I. is an interesting topic as is creativity. How many jokes or funny youtube clips have A.I. produced so far? |
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Post by laughter on Feb 7, 2018 14:58:02 GMT -5
Awesome! Humor and A.I. is an interesting topic as is creativity. How many jokes or funny youtube clips have A.I. produced so far? The Star Trek authors explored that point quite well in "Next Generation" with Brett Spiner. Conversely, a dead give-away to an SR fakir is a complete absence of any sense of humor when it comes to their person.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 15:35:22 GMT -5
You've been writing about being conscious so that you can create a space to be other than conditioned, for the last 9 years? Ever wonder whether you've been giving away what you need? Well, if you've never wondered, then are you ready to accept the possibility that it might be true that you've been giving away what you need? |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Feb 7, 2018 15:48:19 GMT -5
No, writing about it has nothing to do with it (being other than conditioned). Well, if you've never wondered, then are you ready to accept the possibility that it might be true that you've been giving away what you need? I understand the process, which involves losing energy and saving energy, and creating a new energy that-not-now-is. I understand that if one is not saving energy one is automatically (by default) losing energy. But yes, in writing one can definitely lose energy (but not necessarily). This is the analogy of the juggling thread, if you cease juggling, the beanbags fall. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 16:10:23 GMT -5
Well, if you've never wondered, then are you ready to accept the possibility that it might be true that you've been giving away what you need? I understand the process, which involves losing energy and saving energy, and creating a new energy that-not-now-is. I understand that if one is not saving energy one is automatically (by default) losing energy. But yes, in writing one can definitely lose energy (but not necessarily). This is the analogy of the juggling thread, if you cease juggling, the beanbags fall. So you know all about giving away what you need and there is nothing new to learn? |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Feb 7, 2018 17:25:23 GMT -5
I understand the process, which involves losing energy and saving energy, and creating a new energy that-not-now-is. I understand that if one is not saving energy one is automatically (by default) losing energy. But yes, in writing one can definitely lose energy (but not necessarily). This is the analogy of the juggling thread, if you cease juggling, the beanbags fall. So you know all about giving away what you need and there is nothing new to learn? There is always something new to learn. Always. |
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Post by enigma on Feb 7, 2018 19:48:11 GMT -5
Awesome! Humor and A.I. is an interesting topic as is creativity. How many jokes or funny youtube clips have A.I. produced so far? Yes indeedy. Creativity seems to transcend the ordinary mind, so it's easy to see how it would be inaccessible to something designed to mimic the mind. Most poets know that the best poetry 'writes itself'. Humor is an interesting thing in and of itself. It's triggered by an absurdity, or incongruity of some kind. It's still unclear to me why that makes a person laugh. Why does an absurdity amuse us? It's almost like mind enjoys being derailed from it's tracks in a harmless way. In any event, humor seems to be quite subtle, and more sophisticated that it seems at first glance. |
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Post by enigma on Feb 7, 2018 19:50:50 GMT -5
Awesome! Humor and A.I. is an interesting topic as is creativity. How many jokes or funny youtube clips have A.I. produced so far? The Star Trek authors explored that point quite well in "Next Generation" with Brett Spiner. Conversely, a dead give-away to an SR fakir is a complete absence of any sense of humor when it comes to their person. Yeah, I sometimes say God is a funny guy. Humor seems to have a Divine quality about it, which sounds strange to hear myself say. |
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