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Post by Peter on Jul 19, 2017 4:23:46 GMT -5
Has anyone looked seriously at Astral Projection? How did you get on?
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Post by lolly on Jul 19, 2017 11:32:33 GMT -5
I haven't, but I'm getting the feeling that I should.
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Post by preciocho on Jul 19, 2017 11:49:34 GMT -5
Has anyone looked seriously at Astral Projection? How did you get on? I think there's a lot of definitions and confusion regarding what astral projection is. Some mention the existence of an astral body, or spirit body, and experiencing dimensions as that body. I put it in terms of telemetry, not traveling to other dimensions, but creating and perceiving the other dimensions through laws of resonance. In this sense I would say astral projection is similar to channeling information, seemingly with tints of non locality, or not so much riddled by illusory ideas of time/space and locality. |
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Post by silver on Jul 19, 2017 11:53:53 GMT -5
There's been a lot of dreams off and on over the years where I felt I was definitely someplace else...a sense of reality within the dream(s) - I don't get that in all of them.
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Post by laughter on Jul 19, 2017 15:45:44 GMT -5
Has anyone looked seriously at Astral Projection? How did you get on? I think there's a lot of definitions and confusion regarding what astral projection is. Some mention the existence of an astral body, or spirit body, and experiencing dimensions as that body. I put it in terms of telemetry, not traveling to other dimensions, but creating and perceiving the other dimensions through laws of resonance. In this sense I would say astral projection is similar to channeling information, seemingly with tints of non locality, or not so much riddled by illusory ideas of time/space and locality. I've only told this to two people so far.  A few years ago I was really deep into meditation practice -- by my standards -- in terms of frequency and duration of each sit. I was also spending most of my time during the day alone doing labor on a house I was renovating, and that had been going on for months by then. So on a few occasions -- at least two but not many more than that -- I got to the point when I was deep into it where I felt a sensation of literally sort of lifting out of my body. Didn't last long and the sensation never completed in terms of leaving altogether. It didn't lead anywhere, and when I got curious about it and tried to make it happen nothing happened, so I couldn't repeat it. AP wasn't something that I was trying to do and I didn't read up on it or try to adjust my practice to facilitate it. What I was trying to get to was "nirvikalpa samadhi": ultimate wakeful awareness with no sensory perception of any sort. That never happened, either. But from that I can guess that whatever is going on with AP, whether it's metaphorical or there is some literal truth to the phenomenon, I've had a pretty convincing hint about why the people who've experienced it actually believe they've experienced disembodied travel. |
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Post by esponja on Jul 20, 2017 0:11:04 GMT -5
I think there's a lot of definitions and confusion regarding what astral projection is. Some mention the existence of an astral body, or spirit body, and experiencing dimensions as that body. I put it in terms of telemetry, not traveling to other dimensions, but creating and perceiving the other dimensions through laws of resonance. In this sense I would say astral projection is similar to channeling information, seemingly with tints of non locality, or not so much riddled by illusory ideas of time/space and locality. I've only told this to two people so far. A few years ago I was really deep into meditation practice -- by my standards -- in terms of frequency and duration of each sit. I was also spending most of my time during the day alone doing labor on a house I was renovating, and that had been going on for months by then. So on a few occasions -- at least two but not many more than that -- I got to the point when I was deep into it where I felt a sensation of literally sort of lifting out of my body. Didn't last long and the sensation never completed in terms of leaving altogether. It didn't lead anywhere, and when I got curious about it and tried to make it happen nothing happened, so I couldn't repeat it. AP wasn't something that I was trying to do and I didn't read up on it or try to adjust my practice to facilitate it. What I was trying to get to was "nirvikalpa samadhi": ultimate wakeful awareness with no sensory perception of any sort. That never happened, either. But from that I can guess that whatever is going on with AP, whether it's metaphorical or there is some literal truth to the phenomenon, I've had a pretty convincing hint about why the people who've experienced it actually believe they've experienced disembodied travel. Cool. I'd like to give it a go. Not scared at all, really curious...I tried a youtube meditation recently but nada! |
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Post by preciocho on Jul 20, 2017 13:51:56 GMT -5
I think there's a lot of definitions and confusion regarding what astral projection is. Some mention the existence of an astral body, or spirit body, and experiencing dimensions as that body. I put it in terms of telemetry, not traveling to other dimensions, but creating and perceiving the other dimensions through laws of resonance. In this sense I would say astral projection is similar to channeling information, seemingly with tints of non locality, or not so much riddled by illusory ideas of time/space and locality. I've only told this to two people so far. A few years ago I was really deep into meditation practice -- by my standards -- in terms of frequency and duration of each sit. I was also spending most of my time during the day alone doing labor on a house I was renovating, and that had been going on for months by then. So on a few occasions -- at least two but not many more than that -- I got to the point when I was deep into it where I felt a sensation of literally sort of lifting out of my body. Didn't last long and the sensation never completed in terms of leaving altogether. It didn't lead anywhere, and when I got curious about it and tried to make it happen nothing happened, so I couldn't repeat it. AP wasn't something that I was trying to do and I didn't read up on it or try to adjust my practice to facilitate it. What I was trying to get to was "nirvikalpa samadhi": ultimate wakeful awareness with no sensory perception of any sort. That never happened, either. But from that I can guess that whatever is going on with AP, whether it's metaphorical or there is some literal truth to the phenomenon, I've had a pretty convincing hint about why the people who've experienced it actually believe they've experienced disembodied travel. Welp, I had an experience where I seemingly did astrally project, as if my spirit was being launched into a different dimension where other spirits were hanging out. We talked about Earth life and they explained to me how that life was no longer for them. So these were either disembodied spirits or seemingly folks who had been dead and were in escrow being brought to life by the creative act of perception. While they were dead, or are dead, they are nonetheless a factor in the singular movement of a singular consciousness, able to play causal roles to certain effects. In the same sequence I encountered what I would call a refraction from the personal unconscious, a sense of terror embodied by a wall or what I have heard called the dweller on the threshold. And hence why I say the 'spirit body' is comprised of unresolved emotional issues and why astral projection isn't a solution any more than an embodiment of a more fundamental problem, person identification. |
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Post by lolly on Jul 21, 2017 1:10:08 GMT -5
I've only told this to two people so far. A few years ago I was really deep into meditation practice -- by my standards -- in terms of frequency and duration of each sit. I was also spending most of my time during the day alone doing labor on a house I was renovating, and that had been going on for months by then. So on a few occasions -- at least two but not many more than that -- I got to the point when I was deep into it where I felt a sensation of literally sort of lifting out of my body. Didn't last long and the sensation never completed in terms of leaving altogether. It didn't lead anywhere, and when I got curious about it and tried to make it happen nothing happened, so I couldn't repeat it. AP wasn't something that I was trying to do and I didn't read up on it or try to adjust my practice to facilitate it. What I was trying to get to was "nirvikalpa samadhi": ultimate wakeful awareness with no sensory perception of any sort. That never happened, either. But from that I can guess that whatever is going on with AP, whether it's metaphorical or there is some literal truth to the phenomenon, I've had a pretty convincing hint about why the people who've experienced it actually believe they've experienced disembodied travel. Welp, I had an experience where I seemingly did astrally project, as if my spirit was being launched into a different dimension where other spirits were hanging out. We talked about Earth life and they explained to me how that life was no longer for them. So these were either disembodied spirits or seemingly folks who had been dead and were in escrow being brought to life by the creative act of perception. While they were dead, or are dead, they are nonetheless a factor in the singular movement of a singular consciousness, able to play causal roles to certain effects. In the same sequence I encountered what I would call a refraction from the personal unconscious, a sense of terror embodied by a wall or what I have heard called the dweller on the threshold. And hence why I say the 'spirit body' is comprised of unresolved emotional issues and why astral projection isn't a solution any more than an embodiment of a more fundamental problem, person identification. True. In the 'dhamma teaching' skills such as astral projection aren't given much importance, and are even considered risky in perpetuating further 'cravings', but still, a life skill is a life skill, and willfully transversing the astral planes seems like a really valuable ability. I guess it's the same with all spiritual aspects, and one has be aware of their ego inflation lest it gets the better of them. |
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Post by Reefs on Jul 21, 2017 9:40:12 GMT -5
Has anyone looked seriously at Astral Projection? How did you get on? I've read quite a lot about it in the Seth Material. Quite fascinating. It's actually more common than people think. And astral projection is just the first step into those other realms. That's why Seth simply calls it projection. Seth actually has some kind of manual for this because he thinks you should know what you are getting yourself into or else you'll end up confused and disoriented. If you're interested I can check the books again and give you the cliffs notes. I think maybe Tenka can help you here. He seems to be into this kind of stuff and probably has some first hand experience. |
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Post by preciocho on Jul 23, 2017 13:57:26 GMT -5
Welp, I had an experience where I seemingly did astrally project, as if my spirit was being launched into a different dimension where other spirits were hanging out. We talked about Earth life and they explained to me how that life was no longer for them. So these were either disembodied spirits or seemingly folks who had been dead and were in escrow being brought to life by the creative act of perception. While they were dead, or are dead, they are nonetheless a factor in the singular movement of a singular consciousness, able to play causal roles to certain effects. In the same sequence I encountered what I would call a refraction from the personal unconscious, a sense of terror embodied by a wall or what I have heard called the dweller on the threshold. And hence why I say the 'spirit body' is comprised of unresolved emotional issues and why astral projection isn't a solution any more than an embodiment of a more fundamental problem, person identification. True. In the 'dhamma teaching' skills such as astral projection aren't given much importance, and are even considered risky in perpetuating further 'cravings', but still, a life skill is a life skill, and willfully transversing the astral planes seems like a really valuable ability. I guess it's the same with all spiritual aspects, and one has be aware of their ego inflation lest it gets the better of them. That's well said. Simultaneously, one must have a certain psychological capacity or tolerance prior to consciousness being allowed access to planes of information, particularly parallel planing energy, and one can only gain that capacity through the loss of personal unconsciousness. There's really no room for ego inflation in the wake of that loss, because the inflation is the construction of the obstacle to the capacity. |
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Post by Reefs on Jul 4, 2019 8:39:36 GMT -5
Interesting interview with an interesting man:
When he says that we at some point 'become addicted to being human' what immediately came to mind was what A-H once said re: OBE: If you only knew how much you wanted to be in these bodies, you wouldn’t be all the time trying so hard to get out of them, haha. But I think he explains the mechanics of samsara quite well.
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A few years ago I was really deep into meditation practice -- by my standards -- in terms of frequency and duration of each sit. I was also spending most of my time during the day alone doing labor on a house I was renovating, and that had been going on for months by then. 
