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Post by Reefs on Jun 27, 2024 20:38:59 GMT -5
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Post by someNOTHING! on Jun 28, 2024 8:50:30 GMT -5
Parts of different ones, never the whole of any of them. Simple answer: at its core is the death-rebirth principle. The messianic aspect of that story, at once a mind hook and an historical, conceptual instrument found in various forms of spiritual literature, could be an oft misunderstood invitation. The Buddhist story, that runs in a similar vein, is a little 'cleaner', for want of a better word. Ramana 'Diaper Guy' Maharshi took the quest to heart and went into the heart of darkness itself to find the indistinguishable light at the end of the tunnel. One has to come SEE IT for themselves. These last two sentences are the heart of the Greek Mysteries. There is an excellent book on this, among his other excellent books. In the Dark Places of Wisdom, Peter Kingsley. And the Greeks got the Mysteries, from Egypt. The Kings chamber in the Great Pyramid is not for the Pharoah's burial. The coffin was for the initiation ceremony. So death, burial and resurrection preceeded Christianity. Thanks for the Kingsley book suggestion. His name does come up here and there, as well as the many overlapping waves of the mysteries, myths, stories (often retold with new names, emphases, etc), and practices. As per the last suggestion, that is the assumption I've kinda taken from the get-go, and the occasional research has found that it is not far off the mark. I may eventually get around to disentangling the web of thought lanes, on-and-off ramps that comprised the Silk Route, too, but it takes a bit of effort that has to bubble up from a forensic interest which is not always available, hehe. Oh, and thanks for the Gurdjieff music selections. That guy was quite talented... good stuff! |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jun 28, 2024 9:35:39 GMT -5
These last two sentences are the heart of the Greek Mysteries. There is an excellent book on this, among his other excellent books. In the Dark Places of Wisdom, Peter Kingsley. And the Greeks got the Mysteries, from Egypt. The Kings chamber in the Great Pyramid is not for the Pharoah's burial. The coffin was for the initiation ceremony. So death, burial and resurrection preceeded Christianity. Thanks for the Kingsley book suggestion. His name does come up here and there, as well as the many overlapping waves of the mysteries, myths, stories (often retold with new names, emphases, etc), and practices. As per the last suggestion, that is the assumption I've kinda taken from the get-go, and the occasional research has found that it is not far off the mark. I may eventually get around to disentangling the web of thought lanes, on-and-off ramps that comprised the Silk Route, too, but it takes a bit of effort that has to bubble up from a forensic interest which is not always available, hehe. Oh, and thanks for the Gurdjieff music selections. That guy was quite talented... good stuff! Kingsley has another book also very good, as you mentioned the Silk Road. It's about a man who traveled from Mongolia to Greece, taking a teaching. It may be his shortest work, I'll have to look up the name, something about search. A Story Waiting to Pierce You. There is a pretty good book, Gnosis on the Silk Road, I found it at a Myrtle Beach book thrift store about 30 years ago. Serendipity. I'm just starting posting about the Idiots, the Marco-Micro thread, will post regularly so as not to lose anything. So a lot of tbc Sure on the other. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 15, 2024 7:28:45 GMT -5
Just ran across an interesting article. Gurdjieff said and wrote and taught that in the whole of the universe, time is the unique subjective, from Beelzebub's Tales, which he began 100 years ago. The article says the time is derived from quantum entanglement. It uses an old theory from 1983, but introduces new aspects, applying aspects to one entangled particle, and then the other. They haven't figured out a way yet to apply the theory experimentally. Time might be a mirage caused by quantum entanglement. From the article: Time may not be a fundamental element of the universe but rather an illusion emerging from quantum entanglement, a new study suggests. Time is a thorny problem for physicists; its inconsistent behavior between our best theories of the universe contributes to a deadlock preventing researchers from finding a "theory of everything," or a framework to explain all of the physics in the universe. But in the new study, researchers suggest they may have found a clue to solving that problem: by making time a consequence of quantum entanglement, the weird connection between two far-apart particles. The team published their findings May 10 in the journal Physical Review A. |
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