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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 2:04:31 GMT -5
Go and read Spiritual Warfare and then tell me from your gut whether they are the same man. I will re-write it for you, Bakk, so that it sounds a bit more approachable. I don't respond well to commands, such as 'go and read and tell me'. You can re-read Spiritual Warware. Can you not tell from your gut whether they are the same man?
're-read', because I did read it. But I confess, I wasn't much interested, because by that point I had been cooked already. You have been a follower/student of Jed for a long time, correct? as you mentioned a 2009 Facebook group you were part of. I got my hands on The darnedest in 2013, and that was enough. Have you ever been part of the forums, either the old one or the current one? You also mentioned that the 2009 Facebook 'Jed' attempted a Facebook page for one month. What makes you think that the Forum Jed and that Facebook Jed are the same person? Bear in mind that we will NEVER know the identity behind Jed the Author. He licenced his publishing rights to a third party, and the third party is not likely to share it, unless we hang him upside down and mess with his privates  Or Jed dies, and his licence holder decides to make a buck on the story. Also remember that books always need editing, and a good editor can make it quite some different sounding thing. In fact, I am very sure a good aditor DID change Jed's book quite a bit. Let's not discuss it here anymore. Rephrase it anyway you see fit. I'm not a student of anyone, I'm too plugged in for that. I recognise and understand perfection. And I respect what breaks me and I understand what puts me back together. I'm bored of writing about 'Jed' now.. though I will clarify just so you know how it went down. The discussion group was already alive and beating inside Facebook, before a personal account opened in the name of Jed McKenna. This personal account, didn't write much on it's wall. Though it wrote a few snippets into the already existing group and it private messages some other personal accounts. Then a few weeks later it was deactivated. Who did it. I don't know. Was it the author of the books. I doubted it then, and I doubt it now. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 2:08:21 GMT -5
What we are is having a human experience .. Human experience allows one to see ourselves as human and as so much more depending on what one has realized about themselves . I am thinking if there is a Jed proclaiming everything is a lie, Jed will be coming from a particular place within himself that reflects that . I don't have the same opinion as Jed and yet I know beyond the human experience . That doesn't make the human aspect a lie in my book butt rather the self requires to separate some kinda truth from something else, when all there is, is what you are . Why would one do that? Jed's first book was written from a very dark place. Something had happened in his life which blew his world out of existence. Yes, it is a human experience. If your particular human experience was sheltered and generally untroubled (and I have known such people, they wouldn't comprehend 1% of what Jed was writing about).. then to you things will look much on the brighter side. However... It is a lie, because people always lie. You have to understand what this means exactly. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 2:13:02 GMT -5
Rephrase it anyway you see fit. I'm not a student of anyone, I'm too plugged in for that. I recognise and understand perfection. And I respect what breaks me and I understand what puts me back together. I'm bored of writing about 'Jed' now.. though I will clarify just so you know how it went down. The discussion group was already alive and beating inside Facebook, before a personal account opened in the name of Jed McKenna. This personal account, didn't write much on it's wall. Though it wrote a few snippets into the already existing group and it private messages some other personal accounts. Then a few weeks later it was deactivated. Who did it. I don't know. Was it the author of the books. I doubted it then, and I doubt it now. Thank you. That sounds correct, because there was someone appearing and disappearing on various spiritual forums with little comments here and there, under the name Jed McKenna. Which got people excited, but most of them are gone now. It was around 2010 - 2013. But it doesn't link that person to Forum Jed. |
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Post by tenka on Apr 5, 2017 2:33:09 GMT -5
What we are is having a human experience .. Human experience allows one to see ourselves as human and as so much more depending on what one has realized about themselves . I am thinking if there is a Jed proclaiming everything is a lie, Jed will be coming from a particular place within himself that reflects that . I don't have the same opinion as Jed and yet I know beyond the human experience . That doesn't make the human aspect a lie in my book butt rather the self requires to separate some kinda truth from something else, when all there is, is what you are . Why would one do that? Jed's first book was written from a very dark place. Something had happened in his life which blew his world out of existence. Yes, it is a human experience. If your particular human experience was sheltered and generally untroubled (and I have known such people, they wouldn't comprehend 1% of what Jed was writing about).. then to you things will look much on the brighter side. However... It is a lie, because people always lie. You have to understand what this means exactly. My experiential journey has encompassed a totally loving environment to a state of despair / submission that lead to self enquiry amongst other things . I totally understand how peeps see things differently depending on where they are currently at . One minute life is great, the next it's pants . I am not sure when life is great one would have the opinion that people always lie . I am not sure at this point where this point plays a part in a peep that has Self realized or whether it's just about a dude who was in a bad place at the time . I know that my boss lies often, I know that my mum doesn't lie nor do I .. I understand that certain folk lie and certain folk don't . So I take it Jed is not in a dark place now and he doesn't have the same opinion? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 2:34:47 GMT -5
Rephrase it anyway you see fit. I'm not a student of anyone, I'm too plugged in for that. I recognise and understand perfection. And I respect what breaks me and I understand what puts me back together. I'm bored of writing about 'Jed' now.. though I will clarify just so you know how it went down. The discussion group was already alive and beating inside Facebook, before a personal account opened in the name of Jed McKenna. This personal account, didn't write much on it's wall. Though it wrote a few snippets into the already existing group and it private messages some other personal accounts. Then a few weeks later it was deactivated. Who did it. I don't know. Was it the author of the books. I doubted it then, and I doubt it now. Thank you. That sounds correct, because there was someone appearing and disappearing on various spiritual forums with little comments here and there, under the name Jed McKenna. Which got people excited, but most of them are gone now. It was around 2010 - 2013. But it doesn't link that person to Forum Jed.Actually memory has just informed me that it was late 2008 when that Facebook account appeared. Yes, as in I agree. And no, it doesn't have to. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 2:41:25 GMT -5
Jed's first book was written from a very dark place. Something had happened in his life which blew his world out of existence. Yes, it is a human experience. If your particular human experience was sheltered and generally untroubled (and I have known such people, they wouldn't comprehend 1% of what Jed was writing about).. then to you things will look much on the brighter side. However... It is a lie, because people always lie. You have to understand what this means exactly. My experiential journey has encompassed a totally loving environment to a state of despair / submission that lead to self enquiry amongst other things . I totally understand how peeps see things differently depending on where they are currently at . One minute life is great, the next it's pants . I am not sure when life is great one would have the opinion that people always lie . I am not sure at this point where this point plays a part in a peep that has Self realized or whether it's just about a dude who was in a bad place at the time . I know that my boss lies often, I know that my mum doesn't lie nor do I .. I understand that certain folk lie and certain folk don't . So I take it Jed is not in a dark place now and he doesn't have the same opinion? This point of 'ife great - life pants' has nothing with TR, but it is a prelude. Also, some people had no significant suffering, but still managed to walk through the Gate. Both your boss and your mum (especially your mum) - lie. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 2:43:44 GMT -5
Thank you. That sounds correct, because there was someone appearing and disappearing on various spiritual forums with little comments here and there, under the name Jed McKenna. Which got people excited, but most of them are gone now. It was around 2010 - 2013. But it doesn't link that person to Forum Jed.Actually memory has just informed me that it was late 2008 when that Facebook account appeared. Yes, as in I agree. And no, it doesn't have to.OK. I don't want to discuss it, because Jed might be looking, although knowing him - he wouldn't bother beyond the first glance. |
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Post by laughter on Apr 5, 2017 2:45:48 GMT -5
How and why did it close? What took place? Ho wmany people were there? Where are they now? What made you think it was an impostor? Every detail counts, otherwise these are just empty words. I am here on thr ground, and at least I have something. You so far have shown nothing but a wilde guess. Sleep on it. I can always take my business elswhere  Two deletions in one day? The record stands at around 6 or 7.. so you'll have to go some to match that. I wonder if the forum meltdown rate will eventually reach some sort of critical mass or if the forum will eventually just consist of wall-to-wall hysteria.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 2:46:50 GMT -5
I tend to put myself in the shoes of the person and see their actions from their own perspective. From that - probing reactions to own name on forums and facebook after years of absence - makes completelsense.
Also, Wisefool Press are planning an aggressive assault of Jed's books on the market, to take them out of the cult underground following into the mainstream.
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Post by tenka on Apr 5, 2017 2:55:58 GMT -5
My experiential journey has encompassed a totally loving environment to a state of despair / submission that lead to self enquiry amongst other things . I totally understand how peeps see things differently depending on where they are currently at . One minute life is great, the next it's pants . I am not sure when life is great one would have the opinion that people always lie . I am not sure at this point where this point plays a part in a peep that has Self realized or whether it's just about a dude who was in a bad place at the time . I know that my boss lies often, I know that my mum doesn't lie nor do I .. I understand that certain folk lie and certain folk don't . So I take it Jed is not in a dark place now and he doesn't have the same opinion? This point of 'ife great - life pants' has nothing with TR, but it is a prelude. Also, some people had no significant suffering, but still managed to walk through the Gate. Both your boss and your mum (especially your mum) - lie. I don't know what TR stands for and I am pretty sure you don't know anything about my mum . I am not sure however whats going on with Jed or you in regards to how you know that everything is a lie . It doesn't have to be perceived like that at all . |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 2:56:33 GMT -5
Two deletions in one day? The record stands at around 6 or 7.. so you'll have to go some to match that. I wonder if the forum meltdown rate will eventually reach some sort of critical mass or if the forum will eventually just consist of wall-to-wall hysteria. Well.. as someone once said to me 'There is a method to your madness'. |
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Post by laughter on Apr 5, 2017 2:56:44 GMT -5
I tend to put myself in the shoes of the person and see their actions from their own perspective. From that - probing reactions to own name on forums and facebook after years of absence - makes completelsense. Also, Wisefool Press are planning an aggressive assault of Jed's books on the market, to take them out of the cult underground following into the mainstream. Has it ever occurred to you -- assuming you're not a publicity stunt and deliberately fronting (which I find unlikely) -- that you're being used to further that end? |
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Post by laughter on Apr 5, 2017 2:57:47 GMT -5
Some people know it and some people don't. That's what my lover Jed said.
"Satch, a word of warning. Jed is a virus. Many people woud attest to that. He invades one's psyche and is near impossible to get rid of once that happens. The way he communicates with others - will hook you and bring you in, and will keep bringing you in."   |
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Post by laughter on Apr 5, 2017 3:00:31 GMT -5
"Satch, a word of warning. Jed is a virus. Many people woud attest to that. He invades one's psyche and is near impossible to get rid of once that happens. The way he communicates with others - will hook you and bring you in, and will keep bringing you in." Oh please! I've got nothing to do with the guy. There you go fantasising again.  But she did finally get ya' to read one of his books.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 3:00:55 GMT -5
I don't know what TR stands for and I am pretty sure you don't know anything about my mum . I am not sure however whats going on with Jed or you in regards to how you know that everything is a lie . It doesn't have to be perceived like that at all . TR - Truth Realisation. Or SR - Self Realisation. Same thing. What is going on with Jed or me... He saw it, I saw it. He also has become it. If you can't beat them..... pretend you are them As for your mum.. you are probably thinking a lie is when she told you there was no strawberry ice cream on sale, while in reality she forgot to buy it. BUT THAT is not it, even though on some level it is a lie. I am talking about something different. |
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Or Jed dies, and his licence holder decides to make a buck on the story.
But she did finally get ya' to read one of his books.