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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 17:53:59 GMT -5
I still say it's a mistake..being lost is a mistake but I can be mistaken if so I am lost to the attachment of the question  That pretty much does sum it up. In identification, (with any thing....any thing, at all) there is a mis-taking beingness for something tangible and objectifiable. I think so too but waiting for Stardust to grade me |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 4, 2017 22:32:35 GMT -5
Yes, correct. (But still not the answer). Technical means precise. (Last sentence of the Ouspensky quote is very close, but not precise). I'm going to have to sit with this stardust nothing is arising, no identification. x OK |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 4, 2017 22:36:43 GMT -5
That pretty much does sum it up. In identification, (with any thing....any thing, at all) there is a mis-taking beingness for something tangible and objectifiable. I think so too but waiting for Stardust to grade me C |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 22:37:42 GMT -5
I think so too but waiting for Stardust to grade me C  you sure you didn't make a tech mistake here |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 4, 2017 22:52:32 GMT -5
you sure you didn't make a tech mistake here This question just helps define "me", sdp, in relation to most everybody else here (nondualists). Not that I am not a nondualist. I am a nondualist with qualification. I'm just sort-of pointing that out.....that there is a difference. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 22:54:45 GMT -5
you sure you didn't make a tech mistake here This question just helps define "me", sdp, in relation to most everybody else here (nondualists). Not that I am not a nondualist. I am a nondualist with qualification. I'm just sort-of pointing that out..... So you are a tech mistake then..sorry couldn't help myself..ok that does make sense thanks |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 5, 2017 8:05:00 GMT -5
So long as a man identifies or can be identified, he is a slave of everything that can happen to him. Freedom is first of all freedom from identification. A Teacher of Dancing
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 11:48:07 GMT -5
So long as a man identifies or can be identified, he is a slave of everything that can happen to him. Freedom is first of all freedom from identification. A Teacher of Dancing exactly it's why I said mistake ..What is identification a mistake and I only get a C grade you are a hard teacher |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 5, 2017 11:55:28 GMT -5
So long as a man identifies or can be identified, he is a slave of everything that can happen to him. Freedom is first of all freedom from identification. A Teacher of Dancing exactly it's why I said mistake ..What is identification a mistake and I only get a C grade you are a hard teacher "I" don't grade on the curve.  (Note I didn't give you a zero).  |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 20, 2017 23:52:51 GMT -5
What is the [technical] meaning of the word identification? (I am confident nobody here will know). I'm putting this question to ZD. It is a sort-of kind-of koan. So don't spoil for others.... |
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Post by sadsack on Jan 20, 2017 23:55:29 GMT -5
What is the [technical] meaning of the word identification? (I am confident nobody here will know). I'm putting this question to ZD. It is a sort-of kind-of koan. So don't spoil for others.... Cor.... its so difficult to arrest the spirit.  |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 24, 2017 20:46:26 GMT -5
"The reason I am not able to bring my attention is that I'm identified with the picture of myself in my mind, also my emotional reactions and my postures - I become them. I have no memory of this habitual behavior; it's a reaction with its foundation in the past - they are not in the present except in their movement and action. In becoming them I forget who I am and what I wish to become". Jerry Brewster
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Post by conradg on Jan 29, 2017 4:02:25 GMT -5
contraction of the infinite self into a form, name, substance, or point
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Post by alertpeaceeternal on Jan 29, 2017 8:25:52 GMT -5
What is the [technical] meaning of the word identification? (I am confident nobody here will know). Identification = Ahamkara (sanskrit) = I-maker (a function) = a particular I-consciousness = The I becomes self-referencial and mirrors itself in/through/via an object it perceives as being the same and/or equvalent with the object. Basically: I am .... (insert object into the blank.) Edit: If one would program a character in a computer-game, I assume it goes like this in programmer-language (which I know nothing about but give it a try): If confused and/or the course of action isn't clear, go to......(insert object a, b, c, d, etc.), become the object, then pursue while driven/moved by the object, which is now the I-maker (ahamkara). Note: Object does not neccessarily mean an object like a table or a chair. I can be character-qualities, arche-types, principles, etc. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jan 30, 2017 12:24:46 GMT -5
contraction of the infinite self into a form, name, substance, or point Yes, that's pretty good, but not precise. |
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you sure you didn't make a tech mistake here 
(Note I didn't give you a zero). 
