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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 9:58:34 GMT -5
Can't stop laughing please stop  Are you NOT wearing underware Gopal? Do you remember Peter said to you to stay away from me? Do I have to report your post again? |
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Post by bluey on Dec 20, 2016 13:49:19 GMT -5
now ask me what you seek. On Gurdjieff, did he really make all those trips as described, Meetings with remarkable men. Peters, Bennett and ouspensky did they love him as a teacher but not as a man? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 14:24:13 GMT -5
Are you wearing underwear? Are you and Gopal twins? I always see you together. Is Gopal and you one? Are you running a dialogue here in this forum? If the answer is yes, then I understand. I done this before with two accounts, " rajakrsna " and " krsnaraja ". One reacting to each other`s post like there are two but actually it`s only one like conjoined twins. Are you even one account? |
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Post by krsnaraja on Dec 20, 2016 15:27:33 GMT -5
Are you and Gopal twins? I always see you together. Is Gopal and you one? Are you running a dialogue here in this forum? If the answer is yes, then I understand. I done this before with two accounts, " rajakrsna " and " krsnaraja ". One reacting to each other`s post like there are two but actually it`s only one like conjoined twins. Are you even one account? The kind of question one expects from a non-dual. Oh well, deny when caught. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Dec 21, 2016 5:22:14 GMT -5
It matters not who i was, who i have become, or what i will be. i require you all to teach me now. allow me to awaken your sleeping souls and guide you, to in turn guide me. This is an absurd statement, absurd OP. Absurd. You want sleeping souls to teach you, yet you can wake them up. Absurd. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 5:44:54 GMT -5
Are you even one account? The kind of question one expects from a non-dual. Oh well, deny when caught. I don't think you understand duality, to say nothing of non duality. The goal of the bhakti yoga path of duality is nondual awareness through devotion to God or guru as duality and then final surrender which gives way to the non dual reality. |
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Post by krsnaraja on Dec 21, 2016 7:58:55 GMT -5
The kind of question one expects from a non-dual. Oh well, deny when caught. I don't think you understand duality, to say nothing of non duality. The goal of the bhakti yoga path of duality is nondual awareness through devotion to God or guru as duality and then final surrender which gives way to the non dual reality. Duality is two, one hot the other is cold. One rich the other is poor. It`s the upper and lower brackets. The left and right. The dull and intelligent. Divine & Demonic. This is duality. The non-duality is neither. Neither fresh or stale. The or of the question, yes or no. The non-specifics. The general term say, God, Atman, Brahma, Jiva, etc. But when you say Krishna/Govinda/Madhusudana/Mukunda/Nsrimha, there`s form. With non-duality there`s the absence of form. The void, the faceless, undefined. So which is which? Which first started non-duality/duality? Just like asking the question which came ahead, the egg or chicken or spirit or matter? In non-duality, everything`s an illusion. In duality, everything is real but temporary. My question to you if you understand Bhakti is this: Is Krishna Consciousness/Awareness the ultimate goal of the yogi? If you say Yes or No, then you become a dual person. If you say neither then you are a hypocrite. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 8:07:02 GMT -5
I don't think you understand duality, to say nothing of non duality. The goal of the bhakti yoga path of duality is nondual awareness through devotion to God or guru as duality and then final surrender which gives way to the non dual reality. Duality is two, one hot the other is cold. One rich the other is poor. It`s the upper and lower brackets. The left and right. The dull and intelligent. Divine & Demonic. This is duality. The non-duality is neither. Neither fresh or stale. The or of the question, yes or no. The non-specifics. The general term say, God, Atman, Brahma, Jiva, etc. But when you say Krishna/Govinda/Madhusudana/Mukunda/Nsrimha, there`s form. With non-duality there`s the absence of form. The void, the faceless, undefined. So which is which? Which first started non-duality/duality? Just like asking the question which came ahead, the egg or chicken or spirit or matter? In non-duality, everything`s an illusion. In duality, everything is real but temporary. My question to you if you understand Bhakti is this: Is Krishna Consciousness/Awareness the ultimate goal of the yogi? If you say Yes or No, then you become a dual person. If you say neither then you are a hypocrite. Then my answer is silence. |
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Post by krsnaraja on Dec 21, 2016 8:10:10 GMT -5
Duality is two, one hot the other is cold. One rich the other is poor. It`s the upper and lower brackets. The left and right. The dull and intelligent. Divine & Demonic. This is duality. The non-duality is neither. Neither fresh or stale. The or of the question, yes or no. The non-specifics. The general term say, God, Atman, Brahma, Jiva, etc. But when you say Krishna/Govinda/Madhusudana/Mukunda/Nsrimha, there`s form. With non-duality there`s the absence of form. The void, the faceless, undefined. So which is which? Which first started non-duality/duality? Just like asking the question which came ahead, the egg or chicken or spirit or matter? In non-duality, everything`s an illusion. In duality, everything is real but temporary. My question to you if you understand Bhakti is this: Is Krishna Consciousness/Awareness the ultimate goal of the yogi? If you say Yes or No, then you become a dual person. If you say neither then you are a hypocrite. Then my answer is silence. I wonder how you passed tests with true or false questions.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 8:14:55 GMT -5
Then my answer is silence. I wonder how you passed tests with true or false questions. What is the gap between hare Krishna hare Krishna? |
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Post by krsnaraja on Dec 21, 2016 8:22:46 GMT -5
I wonder how you passed tests with true or false questions. What is the gap between hare Krishna hare Krishna? The space between hare & Krishna. The space between Krishna & hare. The space between hare & Krishna. When there`s no gap it would be like this: hareKrishnahareKrishna. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 8:30:44 GMT -5
What is the gap between hare Krishna hare Krishna? The space between hare & Krishna. The space between Krishna & hare. The space between hare & Krishna. When there`s no gap it would be like this: hareKrishnahareKrishna. Okay so find out what is in that space. There is no difference between the direct non dual path of jnana and the dualistic path of bhakta. Both result in surrender. When Prabhupāda talks about liberation he means the non dual, arrived at by the path of bhakta. |
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Post by krsnaraja on Dec 21, 2016 8:39:21 GMT -5
The space between hare & Krishna. The space between Krishna & hare. The space between hare & Krishna. When there`s no gap it would be like this: hareKrishnahareKrishna. Okay so find out what is in that space. There is no difference between the direct non dual path of jnana and the dualistic path of bhakta. Both result in surrender. When Prabhupāda talks about liberation he means the non dual, arrived at by the path of bhakta. Jnana is mental speculation. Bhakti is devotion. Prabhupad was talking about love of Krishna & going back to Krishna. |
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Post by maxdprophet on Dec 21, 2016 8:47:15 GMT -5
now ask me what you seek. To vanquish seeking. To no longer aspire to something else. To be without aspirational seeking because it just doesn't arise because whatever is happening is fine as it is. To completely without doubt understand what dies before the body dies. What dies before the body dies is 'dead' because it no longer holds sway or is invested in in any way. To not only be at peace with What Is, but to be What Is itself. To be an instrument of Thy Peace, an unobstructed expression of love and wisdom and appropriate action. color of eyes: hazel |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 8:59:00 GMT -5
Okay so find out what is in that space. There is no difference between the direct non dual path of jnana and the dualistic path of bhakta. Both result in surrender. When Prabhupāda talks about liberation he means the non dual, arrived at by the path of bhakta. Jnana is mental speculation. Bhakti is devotion. Prabhupad was talking about love of Krishna & going back to Krishna. Jnana is not mental speculation. It is direct knowledge. Bhakta is devotion or love of God. It is dualistic to begin with where God is seen as separate but must finally result in knowing God is within in a non dual impersonal sense. That doesn't mean the dualistic path is inferior. The personal aspect doesn't have to disappear either. Most non dual masters have a deep devotional aspect also. |
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