Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 2, 2020 22:57:38 GMT -5
OK, no problem, but I will ask in another way (fine if there is still no response). There is part of ~All That Is~ which is an unknown to invalan. (IOW, is invalan conscious of the Whole?) Yes? No? IOW, consciousness is a continuum, a Whole (the domain), and invalan exists somewhere on that continuum. You speak of focus, a certain focus is the dream world, a certain focus is the waking world. All I'm asking is how does invalan move into the unknown? How does intuition move the consciousness of invalan into "knowing" what not-now-is(known) for invalan?
If you're asking in terms of God. As far as I know, there isn't one.
Inavalan exists as part of an entity that is actually a point of awareness that focuses somewhere in the consciousness domain / dimension.
There is no dream world, nor a waking world.
The physical world I observe is the creation of my subconscious, and my outer-self perceives it through his five senses. I am the primary creation in my world, and everything else is secondary creation, based on my subconscious information of the co-participants into the physical world's virtual blueprint. Each co-participant creates his own world per his own interpretation of the same information. All those worlds are psychological creations, don't overlap, and aren't identical. They may not contain exactly the same elements, and the common elements aren't identical. Your pet is a co-participant too, your plant in the window too.
The dream world is what the outer-self is shown by its subconscious, in symbolical form, who translates knowledge and guidance messages into the five senses' language. That translation is necessary because the outer-self can't directly understand the inner senses' data. When we dream, our awareness re-focuses into the inner-self part of our whole-self. It is like your awareness "wakes up" as your inner-self, participating in whatever he does there. Part of that is instruction for his evolvement, which he practices when he projects into his version of the physical world. A good analogy is that your inner-self is a student in front of his terminal, practicing on an educational game simulation that is the physical world, and the character that he manipulates in the game is his outer-self. The purpose of the game is to educate the inner-self, but he gets so absorbed by the game, that he forgets who he is, and what that is.
The physical word educational game was created for that purpose, as a daydream in his imagination, by an entity who is now evolved beyond our comprehension, but who wasn't and isn't a God, and who doesn't monitor his creation anymore, as you don't think at all of your past thoughts.
Your question about moving into "knowing" doesn't make sense to me. The intuition is (in my terminology) a capability that the point of awareness (the entity) doesn't have (as yet) as man (when the inner-self plays this "physical world" educational game). In this stage of evolvement, man mostly mastered instincts, is dominated by emotions, and started to develop an intellect. His intuition is in a very incipient stage. He knows things based on rationalization, strongly affected by emotions and beliefs. Intuition implies knowing directly, outside rationalization. surely there is a distribution between men, as among all the other co-participants in other stages. There are men that haven't mastered their instincts, as there are others who have a more developed intuition.
Consciousness isn't moved in any way. The point of awareness focuses and re-focuses on the consciousness domain.
We give some words different interpretations, and that contributes to miscommunication. The overall point of view is quite different too, it seems.
The point I was trying to make wasn't about knowledge, but experiencing. Knowledge is an abstraction, it's like the wake of a boat.
Without going back and looking at what I wrote, the movement is into the unknown (not into "knowing").
So for me evolution is about expanding one's capacity to ~take in~ (experience) more of the unknown.
I think we are in agreement about many things.