Andrew, you posted this vid in the other thread...
A couple of days ago i was going to mention the indisputable fact that 9\11 was an inside job is Building 7.
And anyone who is unable to accept that building 7 was a controlled demolition, and carries on about it and conspiracies like popee, Envy Adams and wren have done so far in this thread, i simply will not waste my time communicating with them about such matters. It's easier to just let such people believe and behave anyway they choose and i'll simply make beneficial use of my time having mature open and intelligent convos with other like minded individuals.
yep the building 7 issue is an extremely important one. What is interesting about building 7 is that it reveals the extent to which those involved must have thought that they could get away with it all. Though to be fair, in a way, they have got away with it so far.
There's two scenes in the
The time traveler, the original, not the crappy remake...
Rod Taylor plays H.G. Wells, who travels to the far distant future and initially comes across a peaceful carefree community, the Eloi. He's hung out with them for a while now each time he visits. If memory served me correct, Wells was searching for a time when humanity resolved all it's problems and had finally created the global utopia dreamed about by many, and at this stage in the movie, it seems he has found it.
Scene 1. They're just lazing about near a river, when one of them falls in and is drowning. The rest of the Eloi do not even blink an eye, they just observe emotionlessly, and offer no assistance. Wells is frantic, not only of the situation of someone drowning, but that no one offered assistance, as if they judged there is no problem that needs attention. This event dramatically changes the mood of the movie. Not all is well in utopia.
Scene 2. This happens either directly after the drowning incident, or on his next visit. He's outside again with the Eloi. Everyone's relaxed, having a pleasant time, chatting, etc. Then suddenly a siren goes off, and the Eloi(can't quite recall the exact specifics) all stand up and walk towards this huge building. It's a natural part of their society, but Wells is flipping out as he sees they have gone into a mild trance like state as they all make their way to the building.
That's when Wells and we, the viewer, meet the Morlocks for the first time. The Eloi are surface dwelling humans, and the Morlocks are subterranean, and they do love to eat the Eloi. So thousands of years into the future and humanity has evolved into two classes, the Morlocks using the Eloi for their own survival\use\benefit...and have trained\conditioned the Eloi to be utterly compliant and subservient to them, not even fighting back when their very lives are threatened.
The Eloi know what awaits them when the siren is called and they go to the building, but that is only every now and then and the Morlocks provide for them in return. Their lives are basically pretty good, apart from when it's Morlock feeding time, but it's not everyday so the Eloi are comfortable with this arrangement...though they are not aware they have been bred\conditioned to accept this is how life is meant to be.
The uninterested and compliant behavior of the Eloi disturbed me greatly when i saw this movie in my preteens, and it reflects what i see people do when confronted with the reality of 9\11. The people of the higher class who seek to control everything, have conditioned the common folk, the working class, the "masses\consumers" as they call us, so that when the reality of building 7 being a controlled demolition is presented, people, from the initial overwhelming shock of the event, plus the sustained(10 years) fear of continuous attacks, they go into a conditioned response that makes them unable to persevere with thinking and question the official story...
...so by the time the evidence of building 7 is presented, you get denial, inability to consider anything other than the official story, because the government is perceived, due to propaganda, as your loving fellow countrymen who do their jobs to serve and protect the people of their country, and will even throw in some connection to god to make you really feel\believe they are the good guys.
Thus there is no way that many will accept and even consider that the term 'America\United states of America', as a prime example, is in fact a corporation and not a country, and the whole country is run as a business, and the working class are used by the high class group to generate huge profits for themselves, and they really don't give a dingo's kidney about joe or mary blog's personal well being, apart from just enough to keep them healthy enough to work the machines to keep the cash coming in.
It's too far a distance to accept these alternatives, mainly because they have their self empowerment and self reasoning conditioned out of them or suppressed, laying dormant where it cannot be used to stand up for oneself against these darkness dwelling psychopaths. And if you control a person's mind and beliefs, you control their actions.
And then you have the likes of wren, popee and Envy Adams, who intentionally or unintentionally, in various levels of intensity, attack and ridicule the free open thinkers, using negative reinforcement to influence people to let go of their alternative ideas and comply with the official stories, or whatever they believe is the truth.
No amount of attacks and irrational diversionary arguments from the likes of Envy Adams will convince me that building 7 was not a controlled demolition. I simply do not waste my time talking with such people. Either they really are so far conditioned that they are unreachable, or they have a conscious agenda to disrupt any serious discussion. It's best to just not clutter up a conversation with talking to them, as one will only receive what they have expressed thus far.
It's also why the Paul McCartney issue grabbed my attention. Like I said, I wouldn't like to say whether there is truth to that theory or not, but if it true, the level of flagrant deception fascinates me.
I read the other day in a David Wilpenis interview that that there may well be off planet colonies that have tens of thousands of people on them. Again, is it true....I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me.
The truth of it all will come out, I feel sure.
Considering the comparatively less important conspiracies, in light of what you have just said, the controlling classes control by lies, they are not lovers of truth, so their life is dedicated to spreading lies all over the place, the more lies the common people accept, the more compliant they are when asked or told to do something, because the liars are accepted as truthful people who love us. So as an example, the benefit of lying about Paul McCartney can be simply but powerfully, to condition us to comply to them when the real serious agendas they have need to be implemented.
I don't see the truth just naturally coming out. I think people need to seek it out and expose the lies.
V for Vendetta is another brilliant movie. Based on a comic book, based on the author's views of actual current world events.
"But the end result, the true genius of the plan was the fear. Fear became the ultimate tool of this government." - V - V for Vendetta
V had no fear, because he had nothing his enemies could take from him, he feared no punishment\harm or loss of anything from his lifestyle. Evey knew of the lies and the horrible things the government was doing, but she had a lot of fear. And because of that fear she did not fight back against those causing her harm and stand up for her rights and of her fellow common folk.
Then V deprograms\deconditions her till she has that Zen moment of...
"Then you have no fear any more...you're completely free." - V - V for Vendetta.
...then she is this peaceful empowered chick who effortlessly stands up and plays her part in changing the course of her whole country for the better of all...except for the psychopaths of course, who are utterly convinced they are right and are not doing anything wrong. As the common folk unite and take back charge of their lives and country, the actual guilty would most likely be incarcerated where they can no longer cause anyone harm.
The shock of 9\11 was a heavy hit of fear. When you are fearful, you are immobilized. "Fear gripped me" is one phrase people utter. Fear can immobilize you physically, or it can do so mentally. The American government and those that own it, continued the onslaught of fear by constantly reporting possible future terrorist attacks, even the doozy of a nuclear attack, and when they decided the fear in the people was waning, out comes a few more, extensively documented that they are staged by the government.
Sometimes it's a terrorist attack, sometimes it's a nut in one's own community. The goal is to make people feel unsafe, keep the fear fired up in people so they cannot think straight and feel powerless to stop these attacks, so they will give more power to the government that proclaims it has the resources to make them safe. The goal of those that seek to control is for the individual to willingly give up their own power to protect themself and allow the government to. So if people do wake up, it's too late because they now have no means to protect themself from their own government.
Here's some more relevant quotes.
"Mankind is caught in the cycle of fear, apathy and hatred. These human instincts drive hierarchical political systems and bureaucracies that most often limit the basic human right of the pursuit of happiness. A society whose foundation is fear, apathy and hatred sets up a system which fundamentally affects the happiness of the individual. It represses individual development and maintains a cyclic behavioral pattern of superiority and inferiority and a class society founded on untrue ideals." - Mark Zimmerman
"Experience has shown that the simplest method of securing a silent weapon and gaining control of the public is to keep the public undisciplined and ignorant of the basic system principles on the one hand...while keeping them confused, disorganized and distracted with matters of no real importance on the other hand.
This is achieved by: disengaging their minds; sabotaging their mental activities; provinding a low quality program of public education in mathematics, logic, systems design and economics; and discouraging technical creativity; engaging their emotions; increasing their self indulgence and their indulgence in emotional and physical activities, by way of; unrelenting emotional affrontations and attacks(mental and emotional rape) by way of a constant barrage of sex, violence and wars in the media, especially the tv and the newspapers.
Giving them what they desire - in excess - "junk food for thought(the mind)" - and depriving them of what they really need; rewriting history and law and subjecting the public to the deviant creation, thus being able to shift their thinking from personal needs to highly fabricated outside priorities" - Doco - Silent weapons for quiet wars
"The primary reason why the individual citizens of a country create\allow a political structure is a subconscious desire to perpetuate their own dependency relationship of childhood. Simply put, they want a human god to eliminate all risk from their life, pat them on the head, kiss their bruises, put a chicken on every dinner table, clothe their bodies, tuck them into bed at night and tell them that everything will be alright when they wake up in the morning. They want authority(to be the author of their life) but will not accept responsibility or liability because of fear of failure, so they hire politicians to face reality for them.
The people hire politicians so that the people can: obtain security without managing it; obtain action without thinking about it; inflict theft, injury and death upon others(countries) without having to contemplate either life or death; avoid responsibility for their own intentions; obtain the benefits of reality and science without exerting themselves in the discipline of facing or learning either of these things.
They give the politicians the power to create and manage a war machine to; provide for the survival of the nation\womb; prevent encroachment of anything upon the nation\womb; destroy the enemy who threatens the nation\womb; destroy those citizens of their own country who do not conform" - Doco- Silent weapons for quiet wars
"Few efforts of human behavior modification are more remarkable or more effective than that of the sociomilitary institution known as the draft. A primary purpose of a draft or other such institution is to instill, by intimidation, in the young males of a society the uncritical conviction that the government is omnipotent. He is soon taught that a prayer is slow to reverse what a bullet can do in an instant. Thus, a man trained in a religious environment for eighteen years of his life can, by this instrument of the government, be broken down, be purged of his fantasies and delusions in a matter of mere months. Once that conviction is instilled, all else becomes easy to instill. Even more interesting is the process by which a young man's parents, who purportedly love him, can be induced to send him off to war to his death.
The draft is an institution of compulsory collective sacrifice and slavery, devised by the middle-aged and elderly for the purpose of pressing the young into doing the public's dirty work. It further serves to make the youth as guilty as the elders, thus making criticism of the elders by the youth less likely. It is marketed and sold to the public under the label of "patriotic=national" service." - Doco- Silent weapons for quiet wars
"The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself. Almost inevitably, he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable." - H.L. Mencken.
"In religion and politics, people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue, but have taken them at second hand from other non-examiners, whose opinion about them were not worth a brass farthing." - Mark Twain
"Sexual suppression supports the power of the church, which has sunk very deep roots into the exploited masses by means of sexual anxiety and guilt. It engenders timidity towards authority and binds children to their parents. This results in adult subservience to state authority and to capitalistic exploitation. It paralyzes the intellectual critical powers of the oppressed masses because it consumes the greater part of biological energy.
Finally, it paralyzes the resolute development of creative forces that renders impossible the achievement of all aspirations of human freedom. In this way the prevailing economic system, in which single individuals can easily rule entire masses, becomes rooted in the psychic structures of the oppressed themselves." - Wilhelm Reich
"If people base their identity on identifying with authority, then freedom causes anxiety. They must then conceal the victim in themselves by resorting to violence against others." - Arno Gruen
Some quotes from Hitler and his pals during his reign...
"All propaganda must be so popular and on such an intellectual level that even the most stupid of those toward whom it is directed will understand it. People can be made to perceive paradise as hell and the other way round, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise." - Adolf Hitler
"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the state can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the state to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the state." - Dr. Joseph Goebbels.
That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for their lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Hermann Georing.
