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Post by laughter on Jul 13, 2015 13:13:24 GMT -5
youse guys are still debating the 9-11 incident? serial? this 'challenge everything that moves' mentality is a little weird.. and paranoid.. and overthink-ering extraordinare  Some folks are compelled to challenge lies. It's not a compulsion but it is fun and intriguing to call them out, yes, it is. |
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Post by laughter on Jul 13, 2015 13:15:35 GMT -5
O.k. that's just flat-out whacko wing-nut batsh!t dude. It's one thing to fake a pic of a flying saucer but there were dozens of different angles of the event of the strikes and thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of eye-witness accounts. You'd also be implying that the families of the passengers that died were somehow involved in the conspiracy. If I knew the truth of what happened I would tell you, all I can say is that there are major discrepancies in every aspect of what we were told. The only thing I would confidently stake money on is that the buildings went down and thousands were killed. Instead of talking about something that you know very little about, why don't you do your research? Your "research" is no more first-hand than the different footage and reports of peeps on the ground and in the towers who documented and described the plane strikes. Really, to ignore all that is just the ultimate in paranoid fantasy. If you wanted to argue that there was something else involved in the implosions, that's too shallow a warren to interest me. But to deny the 767 strikes is just plane crazy. Dude. |
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Post by andrew on Jul 13, 2015 13:21:09 GMT -5
Some folks are compelled to challenge lies. It's not a compulsion but it is fun and intriguing to call them out, yes, it is. no no laughter, when one is connected to truth, and is living a life of truth, it becomes difficult to allow lies without challenging them. It's far more than 'fun and intriguing', though I can believe that that is how it is for you. |
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Post by laughter on Jul 13, 2015 13:25:53 GMT -5
It's not a compulsion but it is fun and intriguing to call them out, yes, it is. no no laughter, when one is connected to truth, and is living a life of truth, it becomes difficult to allow lies without challenging them. It's far more than 'fun and intriguing', though I can believe that that is how it is for you. For you, truth is a convenience. In other debates you specifically disclaim any such notion. No andy, when one is free, one is free of any and every compulsion. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2015 13:27:23 GMT -5
youse guys are still debating the 9-11 incident? serial? this 'challenge everything that moves' mentality is a little weird.. and paranoid.. and overthink-ering extraordinare Just measuring the depth of the bunny hole, sir. a measuring device will do you no good here, it would be best to throw the young lad a rope |
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Post by laughter on Jul 13, 2015 13:30:48 GMT -5
Just measuring the depth of the bunny hole, sir. a measuring device will do you no good here, it would be best to throw the young lad a rope Isn't handing him rope what you did by starting the thread? |
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Post by andrew on Jul 13, 2015 13:34:10 GMT -5
If I knew the truth of what happened I would tell you, all I can say is that there are major discrepancies in every aspect of what we were told. The only thing I would confidently stake money on is that the buildings went down and thousands were killed. Instead of talking about something that you know very little about, why don't you do your research? Your "research" is no more first-hand than the different footage and reports of peeps on the ground and in the towers who documented and described the plane strikes. Really, to ignore all that is just the ultimate in paranoid fantasy. If you wanted to argue that there was something else involved in the implosions, that's too shallow a warren to interest me. But to deny the 767 strikes is just plane crazy. Dude. It's true that the research is not first hand, but it will challenge the veracity of a lot of what you know. Discrepancies are discrepancies. Here is just one interesting thing of thousands of interesting things. One on its own may not be a big deal and can be explained away, but there's not just one! Plus the follow up: anonhq.com/small-911-truth-victory-unknown-to-most-americans-uk-man-won-case-against-bbc-for-911-cover-up/ |
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Post by andrew on Jul 13, 2015 13:35:34 GMT -5
no no laughter, when one is connected to truth, and is living a life of truth, it becomes difficult to allow lies without challenging them. It's far more than 'fun and intriguing', though I can believe that that is how it is for you. For you, truth is a convenience. In other debates you specifically disclaim any such notion. No andy, when one is free, one is free of any and every compulsion. That's not true. In the face of deep illusion and lies, one that is connected to truth may be compelled to speak out. |
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Post by laughter on Jul 13, 2015 13:39:01 GMT -5
Your "research" is no more first-hand than the different footage and reports of peeps on the ground and in the towers who documented and described the plane strikes. Really, to ignore all that is just the ultimate in paranoid fantasy. If you wanted to argue that there was something else involved in the implosions, that's too shallow a warren to interest me. But to deny the 767 strikes is just plane crazy. Dude. It's true that the research is not first hand, but it will challenge the veracity of a lot of what you know. Discrepancies are discrepancies. Here is just one interesting thing of thousands of interesting things. One on its own may not be a big deal and can be explained away, but there's not just one! Plus the follow up: anonhq.com/small-911-truth-victory-unknown-to-most-americans-uk-man-won-case-against-bbc-for-911-cover-up/Sorry dude, zero interest here -- it ended at your denial of the 767 strikes. Really, 'nuff said.  |
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Post by laughter on Jul 13, 2015 13:40:03 GMT -5
For you, truth is a convenience. In other debates you specifically disclaim any such notion. No andy, when one is free, one is free of any and every compulsion. That's not true. In the face of deep illusion and lies, one that is connected to truth may be compelled to speak out. Notice that you're speculating again kiddo'.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2015 13:43:44 GMT -5
a measuring device will do you no good here, it would be best to throw the young lad a rope Isn't handing him rope what you did by starting the thread? but hey, if I can keep even a handful of off topic nonsense pages out of the GSD, I'll consider that a success |
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Post by andrew on Jul 13, 2015 13:50:22 GMT -5
Sorry dude, zero interest here -- it ended at your denial of the 767 strikes. Really, 'nuff said. Zero interest in the video, but plenty of interest in talking to me. Clearly you are just trolling on this thread then. |
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Post by andrew on Jul 13, 2015 13:51:30 GMT -5
That's not true. In the face of deep illusion and lies, one that is connected to truth may be compelled to speak out. Notice that you're speculating again kiddo'. Well, no, because it does depend on the situation to some extent. There may well be some situations of deep illusion and lies in which it is not appropriate to speak out. |
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Post by jazz on Jul 14, 2015 3:36:48 GMT -5
Andrew:
In what manner will "the truth of it all" come out? I notice in myself thoughts like these but on further investigation they are more like wishful thinking. The truth will come out and we shall have "conclusion", "closure", "set things right!", etc etc.
It's a compelling thought, but what exactly does it point to? Where is this truth that will come out? From where will it come? Who shall hear it?
"Truth" is a construct and we're not lacking in those. We can have an idea about an impartial observer in which the truth is "seen", but in actuality there is no such observer. So I'm curious how you imagine that something (the truth) will come out.
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Post by andrew on Jul 14, 2015 5:08:28 GMT -5
Andrew: In what manner will "the truth of it all" come out? I notice in myself thoughts like these but on further investigation they are more like wishful thinking. The truth will come out and we shall have "conclusion", "closure", "set things right!", etc etc. It's a compelling thought, but what exactly does it point to? Where is this truth that will come out? From where will it come? Who shall hear it? "Truth" is a construct and we're not lacking in those. We can have an idea about an impartial observer in which the truth is "seen", but in actuality there is no such observer. So I'm curious how you imagine that something (the truth) will come out. The way I see is that 'Truth' and 'Love' go hand in hand, and although they are abstract constructs, they do manifest themselves physically. Specifically, they manifest as truthfulness, openness, transparency, honesty. In 'Truth' and 'Love', nothing is secret, there are no hidden agenda's, there are no manipulators and puppeteers. I believe a wave of 'Truth' and 'Love' is engulfing the planet and this is playing itself out in many ways, in all walks of life, and in all institutions. Folks are fed up with lies, manipulation and deceit, they want the truth, they want honesty, they want openness, and I would say the world IS changing in a big way, and fast. The alternative media is huge these days, there is a very healthy mistrust of the government, and slowly but surely a path is being paved to introduce us to the idea of life outside of this planet. I believe that this disclosure will also change things in a big way, as whole new understandings about who we are, why we are here, and where we come from, will spread across the planet. Suppressed technologies will come to the surface. New 'politicians' will come to the forefront, and these people will understand spiritual truths and their politics will reflect that. Though there MAY be some level of chaos that goes with that obviously, as old institutions and ways of functioning are torn down. |
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