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Post by andrew on Sept 22, 2016 12:01:35 GMT -5
He just posted recently, appearances are like reflections in a mirror. Reflections in mirrors don't have brains. there is compelling scientific evidence that a brain is not necessary at all, for a person to function perfectly normally. in case you did not know. I can believe that, but the point wasn't so much about brains I don't think, it was more about internal organs in general. |
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Post by quinn on Sept 22, 2016 12:02:05 GMT -5
 I agree that confusion is better than attachment, and might even be a side-effect of the dissolution of attachment. Another word could be disorientation. But eventually the confusion needs to dissolve too, right? yes, the confusion is only ever a conceptual confusion, so is not a problem at all, unless we are attached to the truth of our ideas. The paradox is never resolved but it never has to be. Well this might be a context issue (heh heh), but I see confusion as causing all sorts of problems. Like - it's the main culprit. Not that it has to be demonized, but it's not a good place to stay. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 12:02:52 GMT -5
you are not understanding the problem, he doesn't understand yet. He says that everything appears, but rest of writing shows to me that he did not understand yet. 
I don't know if you understand context either, but I've had to skip most of the posts for the last few days.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 12:03:45 GMT -5
I can certainly understand why you write reply in single line, he he I no longer have the energy for discussion with some of these peeps.  ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I can absolutely understand why you feel that way because I too feel the same way! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 12:06:32 GMT -5
Whole history subject was about this world war, but the above mentioned information I have gotten it from Tim'O Neil who is Atheist, Medievalist, Sceptic and amateur Historian who writes more about Romans,Jews and Christianity and many others. He is the unbiased writer in any field he writes about. I would suggest that either he or you have "cherry picked" the facts. From his Dozens of writing I can absolutely certain that he can never go wrong. I have never seen a single individual who has won him over the argument in history. He is the very clear and careful writer that I have ever seen. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 12:08:03 GMT -5
No, I don't get that that's what he's saying. In a physical context (hypothetically), the brain is needed to process sensory information in order to perceive. For Gopal, eyes appear, but brains don't appear unless a head gets sliced open, and in that case a brain would no longer function according to its purpose, so I don't think Gopal will agree with you. I hope Gopal will enlighten us on this. Yes, but I was addressing why I surmise he says appearances don't have brains. Appearance is mere image. Image can't have anything within itself. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 12:08:34 GMT -5
Yes, but I was addressing why I surmise he says appearances don't have brains. He just posted recently, appearances are like reflections in a mirror. Reflections in mirrors don't have brains. yeah. |
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Post by andrew on Sept 22, 2016 12:11:02 GMT -5
yes, the confusion is only ever a conceptual confusion, so is not a problem at all, unless we are attached to the truth of our ideas. The paradox is never resolved but it never has to be. Well this might be a context issue (heh heh), but I see confusion as causing all sorts of problems. Like - it's the main culprit. Not that it has to be demonized, but it's not a good place to stay. I see confusion as one idea that is true in one context contradicting another idea that is true in another context. When there is attachment to ideas, then confusion is a problem because there is a dizzying sense of trying to figure out what idea is actually true, a sense of needing to get to the bottom of all of our ideas to find the absolutely true idea. This can be a pain for sure. When the attachment has gone (understanding context can be helpful perhaps in this), it's all just more playful, there's no need to dig, no need to get to find the absolutely true idea, no need to get to the final answer. We are more free to respond in one moment with one idea, and the next moment with another idea...depending on the situation obviously. These contradictions are never resolved as such, but they also don't have to be a problem. For example, the contradiction of enlightenment is never resolved, but also doesn't have to be a problem. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 12:11:48 GMT -5
I no longer have the energy for discussion with some of these peeps. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I can absolutely feel why you feel that way because I too feel the same way! And it is very efficient for the post-count. Which is always intimidating for newcomers. Which ,no doubt is as is intended. WHo would E be, with 351 posts? a complete nobody. which is why this site is such a farce. |
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Post by andrew on Sept 22, 2016 12:12:14 GMT -5
Yes, but I was addressing why I surmise he says appearances don't have brains. Appearance is mere image. Image can't have anything within itself. Problem is, that an image is known by the qualities it has, and the ones it doesn't have. Without that, there is no image basically. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 12:17:34 GMT -5
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I can absolutely feel why you feel that way because I too feel the same way! And it is very efficient for the post-count. Which is always intimidating for newcomers. Which ,no doubt is as is intended. WHo would E be, with 351 posts? a complete nobody. which is why this site is such a farce. No, I don't understand the problem. We both are talking about Tenka. Even after we try to explain to him more than 100 times, he again and again come back to the same place and understood nothing. Not only me , even Enigma knows that even if he explains Tenka is not going to understand anything but raising same kind of questions again and again. So he writes his reply with single line. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 12:18:37 GMT -5
Appearance is mere image. Image can't have anything within itself. Problem is, that an image is known by the qualities it has, and the ones it doesn't have. Without that, there is no image basically. Image is Image, When you come, I am perceiving the image of Andrew, when I laffy comes, I am perceiving the image of laffy. |
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Post by andrew on Sept 22, 2016 12:25:38 GMT -5
Problem is, that an image is known by the qualities it has, and the ones it doesn't have. Without that, there is no image basically. Image is Image, When you come, I am perceiving the image of Andrew, when I laffy comes, I am perceiving the image of laffy. But you know the image because of your knowledge. You perceive Andrew because you know of his qualities and properties |
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Post by figgles on Sept 22, 2016 12:34:40 GMT -5
How 'bout equally "Godly"? Or Divine....or equally "of God?" There's a tendency in some to see divinity or Godliness in only those things that one is deeming/judging to be wanted, good, beneficial. The place of seeing that renders all equal is one absent that judgement. There is just the seeing of the fundamental 'same Sourcedness" or "Oneness" of all that appears, unfolds, arises, happens. From that vantage point ideas like 'useful, enjoyable, beneficial, wanted' just don't arise. It's a mistake to go from 'absence of judgment' to 'equally true'. A 'mistake' that will set you free...? Adyashanti explains it very well; “ Ultimately what we come to see is that all beliefs are of equal value. It’s just as equal value that somebody should have done something as somebody shouldn’t have done something. Right and wrong have ultimately an equal value. What I think somebody should have done or shouldn’t have done has no value. What they did is as equal value of what I think they should have done. And when we see that all of our thoughts about everything, all of our judgements about everything, all of our opinions about everything, the opposite of the opinions we hold, the opposite of the judgements we have, are equally true.Only then are the polarity of thoughts balanced and we see if the opposing thought is just as true as the thought I believe, then the whole structure of thought collapses. It all falls away. If an opinion that is totally different than mine has just as much right to exist as mine does, then it is impossible to say which opinion is real or true, because they are both real or not real. When we see this there is a balancing internally of the opposites. There is a balancing of the polarizing nature of thought and only when thought is balanced in this way, that one story is no more valid than another story, do all stories collapse.The whole polarizing and dualistic structure of thinking start to collapse. We start to see that there is no validity in it." |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 12:41:14 GMT -5
And it is very efficient for the post-count. Which is always intimidating for newcomers. Which ,no doubt is as is intended. WHo would E be, with 351 posts? a complete nobody. which is why this site is such a farce. No, I don't understand the problem. We both are talking about Tenka. Even after we try to explain to him more than 100 times, he again and again come back to the same place and understood nothing. Not only me , even Enigma knows that even if he explains Tenka is not going to understand anything but raising same kind of questions again and again. So he writes his reply with single line. i case you hadnt noticed, he does that very very often, often just non-remarks, or inside jokes with the other mega post counter. i think it would be good against ego-inflation if the counter switched automatically back to zero after 1000 posts. I no longer follow your discussions. I have decided that you have some kind of experience that is not average, maybe even spiritual, but your interpretation is very wrong. I explained this before.What you call logic is selective interpretation and has a lot of holes in it.There are other expanations possible for you experiences. When i adress that i get a confused smiley as response. We should try to understand you, but you make no effort to understand us.I can not entertain that kind of communication. I bear you no ill will, if you give other people the right to be themselves and live and express who they are, (like gay or lesbian persons).They did not make themselves,and it is hard enough for them to be who they are,without others trying to harass,mock,exclude, threaten and even kill them.Religion plays a big role in that bad attitude, btw. I understand that from your culture it may be hard to understand, but you are an intelligent person.You´ll figure it out. I say this here, now, a bit off topic, cause i wont be talking to you on your favorite topic anymore. be well.  |
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