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Post by figgles on Sept 14, 2016 19:41:56 GMT -5
Sure. But so long as one is wearing glasses, to some degree, he's going along with the idea/experience, that eyes see. Sure. Hawkins taught about his healing work on himself (among other things, of course) for a long time before one of his students asked why he still wears glasses, at which point he took them off and never put them back on. He bumped into things for a while too. Hehe He talked in terms of "cancelling the program". So yes, it's tricky even when one realizes the truth of it. I say the mind is strongly influenced by the collective, and so embodying your realizations can be challenging. I first got glasses in my twenties. I haven't needed them for decades. My understandings changed, and so did my vision, along with some other aspects of my physical well being. Cool. Now ya just gotta deal with that pesky skin burnin' when out in the sun issue.  |
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Post by enigma on Sept 14, 2016 20:17:35 GMT -5
My recollection is that sasquatch didn't say the first two sentences, but your linky is wrongy. If the discussion is about consciousness and appearances, the context is impersonal. Seeing an objective tree with an objective eye is the personal context. Yes, it's all about context, and the Yeti has been playing fast and loose with them for a while now. Yes, that's what I was saying to gopal yesterday. I think that is what satch is saying up there too. Fast and loose. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 21:02:54 GMT -5
Yes, that's what I was saying to gopal yesterday. I think that is what satch is saying up there too. Fast and loose. Fast and loose? Haven't heard that one before. Is that just a new strategy of self denial? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 21:14:40 GMT -5
World is appearance in consciousness matter a lot, because that put our consciousness into a creator mode. Yes, I think it matters a lot too, for some very practical reasons, and also as part of the spiritual search that involves seeing through illusions. Practical reasons? So knowing if the world is appearance or not is necessary in order to enter creator mode? Why is it that sometimes you respond to gopal's nonsense by saying it's nonsense and then on other occasions like this you respond to nonsense by saying "it matters a lot too". There is no spiritual search that entails seeing through illusions. The only illusion that is "seen through" is the illusion of separation and that happens at the end of the so called search when the non dual and the dual are seen to be not different. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 21:53:14 GMT -5
I Am currently writing about this phenonemon. 1844 WA. Here the Brits wrapped whaling-chain about a 14yo Irish lad, who had the body weight of a 9yo so as too please the Gov over Easter, 'for a quick-kill.' No-one had hung a child so Light!  ::warning - contains conspiracy:: The technique of identity splitting through intense pain and suffering is also a government/military practice that enables them to turn young people into soldiers (of the more undercover kind). Agree... what a grotesque machine paranoia becomes in Gov give the cash of the rich. Recently saw THE WALK being done in Nth Korea. Firkin-robots...kill kill kill... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 21:56:11 GMT -5
Outside of this forum, you will spend most of your day believing relative truths. Brushing your teeth, eating food, drinking fluids, talking to others, programming the computer. It all demands that you believe relative truths, that contradict the absolute truth. Denying that you believe relative truths is a form of escape from the present moment, because it is a denial of the world that you believe in (relatively). At some point on the spiritual path, we have to be okay with speaking in seemingly contradictory terms. Usually it is during the Home coming, having gotten there and lost all.  The Spiritual journey all humans take, (sooner or later) is a Two Lane Hi-way. Sometimes head-on collisions occur when a Learner driver finds himself(herself) and wanders thro the medium strip.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 21:58:13 GMT -5
Catching up here Satch. Andrews statement? I thought andrew said it doesn't matter. Nothing really matters. Matters-arise from mental-attachment becoming prominent. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 22:01:24 GMT -5
I thought andrew said it doesn't matter. Nothing really matters. Matters-arise from mental-attachment becoming prominent. Absolutely right Alfio. Nothing really matters. Isn't it wonderful? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 22:42:00 GMT -5
Nothing really matters. Matters-arise from mental-attachment becoming prominent. Absolutely right Alfio. Nothing really matters. Isn't it wonderful? Satch, you don't know how happy I became to find you here, when I arrived this year, or was it last? Wonderful I Am today as you say. I've just had another FREE chiro-job done on my hips... I feel so rounded-off and roll along during kin-hin like never before. Also, My writing has again, taken-off. ty Brother. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 23:24:53 GMT -5
I have to because I have slight power in my eye, left eye -0.75 and right eye -0.25. OMG....you have negated months of posting... :-| When I say my eye, that's an imaginary eye through which I am looking through that. I was saying this to figgles because I knew what would be her next question. Eye doesn't exist in itself, Consciousness is directly looking at what it is seeing. So when I have a power in my eye(imaginary eye),that means consciousness creates the perception as if I have slight sight problem, So when I wear a glasses(another appearance), it starts the create the perception as if I have the clear vision. So eye doesn't exist in itself. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 23:26:54 GMT -5
It builds universe in nightly dream, So where is the problem? The person/mind/brain builds a universe in nightly dreams? I thought consciousness was responsible for everything (all appearances). So does this mean one appearance forms another appearance? I didn't know appearances could do that. Consciousness which builds the nightly dream as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 23:34:45 GMT -5
Okay so that's a yes. You do agree with Andrew's statement. Do you detect any subtle difference between "doesn't matter" and "matters a lot"? He has a reading disability. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 23:36:06 GMT -5
Why wow?  As I said, a lifetime ban seems severe. I feel the same. If Peter had done this, He wouldn't have done this. |
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Post by laughter on Sept 14, 2016 23:50:41 GMT -5
Nothing really matters. Matters-arise from mental-attachment becoming prominent. Absolutely right Alfio. Nothing really matters. Isn't it wonderful? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 0:41:07 GMT -5
you seem to have conveniently snipped off the fact that you believe that you have an eye, and you believe that you need to wear glasses to see better. The relative context is belief in the world. And in the post above Gopal admits, in some sense, eyes exist, as post above he admits his eyes are of different strengths. Not my eyes, my imaginary eyes. |
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