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Post by maxdprophet on Aug 30, 2016 13:50:24 GMT -5
Yea I'm not convinced you're very interested in good faith readings. Otherwise you would specifically ask which particular post you want treated that way. And if you want your Link Master to do the work, do the work to ask him. Why not treat them all that way? Or, at the very least, shouldn't the ones involving discussion of someone's character be held to that standard? You see, the genesis of the torch meme are discussions that involve ideal behavior and ideal forum functioning (or the opposite of a non-ideal of either) as these relate to the objects of villager ire. This is why I didn't characterize you flat-out as holding a fork at first. In this case the meme applies because of what lolz wrote. You were only tangentially related to the mob because your interjection was premised on what lolz wrote. I know that you've been resisting that premise, but your resistance fails the "but-for" test. Well I'm a fan of using the good faith reading request to cut through snark and painting and such. So yes, it's an excellent idea especially with respect to this type of stuff. I only think it's overboard in general, as there's lots of just creative riffing that goes on that would be (imo) inhibited with stark, though useful-in-context, guidelines. If I reply to your last resistance remark you'll probably respond with some sort of 'why do you continue to be interested in this?' remark. So I won't. |
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Post by laughter on Aug 30, 2016 14:00:59 GMT -5
Why not treat them all that way? Or, at the very least, shouldn't the ones involving discussion of someone's character be held to that standard? You see, the genesis of the torch meme are discussions that involve ideal behavior and ideal forum functioning (or the opposite of a non-ideal of either) as these relate to the objects of villager ire. This is why I didn't characterize you flat-out as holding a fork at first. In this case the meme applies because of what lolz wrote. You were only tangentially related to the mob because your interjection was premised on what lolz wrote. I know that you've been resisting that premise, but your resistance fails the "but-for" test. Well I'm a fan of using the good faith reading request to cut through snark and painting and such. So yes, it's an excellent idea especially with respect to this type of stuff. I only think it's overboard in general, as there's lots of just creative riffing that goes on that would be (imo) inhibited with stark, though useful-in-context, guidelines. If I reply to your last resistance remark you'll probably respond with some sort of 'why do you continue to be interested in this?' remark. So I won't.  The interest never died on either side it just morphed it's focus over time, now centering on "good faith reading". |
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Post by enigma on Aug 30, 2016 17:46:36 GMT -5
Sure. Wink at a guy when he's down.  Oookay, sorry. Here's an inverse wink. /  |
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Post by enigma on Aug 30, 2016 18:01:19 GMT -5
I find myself asking for it rather continuously. This 'conversation' is a case in point, the point of which is not that you shouldn't ask for a good faith reading. Yea I'm not convinced you're very interested in good faith readings. Otherwise you would specifically ask which particular post you want treated that way. And if you want your Link Master to do the work, do the work to ask him. I'm very interested in peeps ability to comprehend what they read because selective reading is a misuse of mind that is indicative of unconsciousness, and becoming conscious is extremely important on the spiritual path. I don't point out folks' misreading and interpretation biases just because I want to bicker. I would prefer not to argue with or upset anyone. |
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Post by enigma on Aug 30, 2016 18:16:23 GMT -5
Why not treat them all that way? Or, at the very least, shouldn't the ones involving discussion of someone's character be held to that standard? You see, the genesis of the torch meme are discussions that involve ideal behavior and ideal forum functioning (or the opposite of a non-ideal of either) as these relate to the objects of villager ire. This is why I didn't characterize you flat-out as holding a fork at first. In this case the meme applies because of what lolz wrote. You were only tangentially related to the mob because your interjection was premised on what lolz wrote. I know that you've been resisting that premise, but your resistance fails the "but-for" test. So yes, it's an excellent idea especially with respect to this type of stuff. I only think it's overboard in general, as there's lots of just creative riffing that goes on that would be (imo) inhibited with stark, though useful-in-context, guidelines. If I reply to your last resistance remark you'll probably respond with some sort of 'why do you continue to be interested in this?' remark. So I won't. That's great, but then you end up creating your own snarky paintings in the process of encouraging good faith. |
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Post by laughter on Aug 30, 2016 18:21:56 GMT -5
Will his homeowners cover that?  Lets see......It says "If covered structure is constructed of glass, insured shall not engage in throwing, or conveyance by any other mechanical means, projectiles onto neighboring properties". I guess not.  Well then, technically isn't the insured covered if the rock don't make it past his property line?? |
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Post by laughter on Aug 30, 2016 18:23:29 GMT -5
Well I'm a fan of using the good faith reading request to cut through snark and painting and such. So yes, it's an excellent idea especially with respect to this type of stuff. I only think it's overboard in general, as there's lots of just creative riffing that goes on that would be (imo) inhibited with stark, though useful-in-context, guidelines. If I reply to your last resistance remark you'll probably respond with some sort of 'why do you continue to be interested in this?' remark. So I won't. That's great, but then you end up creating your own snarky paintings in the process of encouraging good faith. ha! ha! as maxy would say "I resemble that remark" ... in my defense I plead "fire with fire". |
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Post by enigma on Aug 30, 2016 18:59:20 GMT -5
Lets see......It says "If covered structure is constructed of glass, insured shall not engage in throwing, or conveyance by any other mechanical means, projectiles onto neighboring properties". I guess not. Well then, technically isn't the insured covered if the rock don't make it past his property line?? Ah, leave it to you to find a loophole.  |
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Post by enigma on Aug 30, 2016 19:01:31 GMT -5
That's great, but then you end up creating your own snarky paintings in the process of encouraging good faith. ha! ha! as maxy would say "I resemble that remark" ... in my defense I plead "fire with fire". The difference is, I don't see your snarkiosity as created unconsciously. |
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Post by preciocho on Aug 30, 2016 22:46:47 GMT -5
You apparently come here as a teacher and that's whatever. Whatever you're teaching. any logical mind could only learn from you how not to think if you want to be logical.
Saying awareness is self evident is a logical statement. If you can't see that I'd place you at the same level of understanding as a 12 year old at best.
You can't describe awareness because it doesn't appear in awareness. You can describe blue and say it's the same color as the sky or the ocean or the color of someone's eyes. Anyone who has practiced meditation for a long time has no interest in consciousness of dynamics of meditation dynamics because that's the end of the practicer. You embody that beautifully only from some transcendent teacher angle that wouldn't make it 2 minutes into a satsang with me in the seat. With all due respect, you're a tourist.
Thats a wonderful way to describe the indescribable. I've been trying to find the right way to express this for sometime. A big thanks to you. Would be nice to see more if any. Thanks rs I'll see if there's anything left in my bag o tricks hehe. |
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Post by preciocho on Aug 30, 2016 22:48:23 GMT -5
When vacation and real life blur into one thing, you are a bum! Do you like the Beatles? I listened to Daniel for about 6 months read Tolle shortly thereafter woke up from emotions never looked back woo hoo.
Come to the islands, dude.
Gotta love Iggy. Although he's not looking so hot lately. Maybe better than Daniel though! |
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Post by preciocho on Aug 30, 2016 22:51:25 GMT -5
Your mind is what is generating all these posts. That you deny the instrument you use to communicate exists has less to do with personal non existence stuff but your own disconnection with the emotional body. And that's witnessed. Precisely. It is quite an odd situation. (I think it's good for everybody to have to ask these questions). Yea welp it's actually a pretty common thing, mind thinking there is no mind and believing what the mind itself is thinking. |
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Post by preciocho on Aug 30, 2016 22:52:54 GMT -5
You aren't a teacher of truth. You consistently avoid the truth while pretending to embody it.  Maybe I was a little polarized on this one |
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Post by preciocho on Aug 30, 2016 22:57:09 GMT -5
Logic is the language of the dream  Yes, but not the only one. Before my Latin American dream the only Spanish words I knew were burrito and enchilada. |
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Post by preciocho on Aug 30, 2016 23:01:57 GMT -5
If 'what is' equals 'what seems to be' within the parameters of someone's thinking, I'd say there is a pre-existing biased toward lack of desire into inquiring into one's own faulty logic. Oh yes, but is that all there is goin' on with that??  .. see now, seems to me that it's not only lack of desire to inquire, it's also an affirmative desire to re-wallpaper the bedroom. Yea and there's energy driving that whole movement. Even putting the beliefs aside for a week and just bringing consciousness into dynamics, behavioral or otherwise, can shine a new light on the beliefs. Of course the beliefs don't want that, but beliefs are less than you because they appear within you. They're like, snowflakes on their way to a steaming car hood. |
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The interest never died on either side it just morphed it's focus over time, now centering on "good faith reading". 
