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Post by enigma on Feb 23, 2015 21:12:24 GMT -5
So your teacher was a woman? And you saw that as another opportunity to spit at me? Seriously?You pretend not to understand the words that are written, then you presume to challenge someone else's openness? A regular theme that you present is one in which a spiritual idea is characterized as dangerous for the person. That idea is the result of not fully understanding what's being said, but I often detect no real openness to that understanding. Yes, seriously.. No one's 'spitting' at you.. that's the illusion that you're trying to create with the first quote, along with illusions about other people's 'themes' when they don't agree with your beliefs, in the second quote.. You misrepresent and twist other people's words and messages to create illusions that you are right and they are wrong, and.. you show no openness to anything that doesn't agree with your beliefs, and no willingness to let that go..That's what I mean by spitting. You invent giraffes so that you can make others wrong, and by contrast make yourself right. I didn't purposely misrepresent and twist anything. I really thought you were correcting my gender designation. If I recall, you referred to that teacher as your "best" teacher. Given that, it didn't seem so out of line to use the word 'favorite'. I don't really know why I'm explaining myself to you, you'll just spit back at me, cuz that's what you do. It's hateful. |
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Post by enigma on Feb 23, 2015 21:17:00 GMT -5
Mucho interesting.  LOL.. not very interesting, the experiments exclude input not measured or considered but which have equal validity as potential causes for the same results, i.e.: direct communication, enforcing the bias, at frequencies beyond the experiment's capacity or design.. Direct communication? From who? What? You mean like aliens? God? I think that only has "equal validity" in your mind. Edit: LOL.. |
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Post by tzujanli on Feb 23, 2015 21:34:28 GMT -5
You pretend not to understand the words that are written, then you presume to challenge someone else's openness? Yes, seriously.. No one's 'spitting' at you.. that's the illusion that you're trying to create with the first quote, along with illusions about other people's 'themes' when they don't agree with your beliefs, in the second quote.. You misrepresent and twist other people's words and messages to create illusions that you are right and they are wrong, and.. you show no openness to anything that doesn't agree with your beliefs, and no willingness to let that go..That's what I mean by spitting. You invent giraffes so that you can make others wrong, and by contrast make yourself right. I didn't purposely misrepresent and twist anything. I really thought you were correcting my gender designation. If I recall, you referred to that teacher as your "best" teacher. Given that, it didn't seem so out of line to use the word 'favorite'. I don't really know why I'm explaining myself to you, you'll just spit back at me, cuz that's what you do. It's hateful. Now you begin the 'hateful' painting, quite the artist.. No, i didn't describe Mikio as my "best" teacher, but it suited your agenda to claim so.. he was 'one of the best' considering his ability for non-verbal conveyance of understanding, he was a 'part of the whole'.. By your beliefs, the so-called 'spitting' would be causeless, and as such unable to be 'hateful', but.. again, your actions speak clearer than your words and the illusions you try to spin.. |
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Post by tzujanli on Feb 23, 2015 21:44:56 GMT -5
LOL.. not very interesting, the experiments exclude input not measured or considered but which have equal validity as potential causes for the same results, i.e.: direct communication, enforcing the bias, at frequencies beyond the experiment's capacity or design.. Direct communication? From who? What? You mean like aliens? God? I think that only has "equal validity" in your mind. Edit: LOL.. Keep trying.. either you're really as clueless as you pretend to be, or you're so fearful of openness that you will appeal to blatant fantasy in service to your fear.. Just in case you really are that clueless, 'direct communication' happens across all frequencies of energy, but.. if the observer isn't aware of some frequencies, as you try to pretend you're not, they might assign that information to 'Gods and aliens', like you did.. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 9:04:20 GMT -5
Mucho interesting. LOL.. not very interesting, the experiments exclude input not measured or considered but which have equal validity as potential causes for the same results, i.e.: direct communication, enforcing the bias, at frequencies beyond the experiment's capacity or design.. Your go-to reasons for dismissing scientific experimentation are unconvincing. What do you mean by 'direct communication'? What 'frequencies' are you referring to? And there's no need to get all defensive just because Portto mused about the implications regarding free will. There actually was no mention of free will in the article. And remember, you are free to simultaneously find something interesting while also being skeptical of it, just FYI. Portto brought this up because of the still mind discussion, which is very interesting, IMO. How might a scientist define still mind, for example? What is measurable in that state? One could argue, for example, that free will is a process that is either conscious or unconscious. If abstract logical computation can happen unconsciously, why not decisions involving 'free will'? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 9:05:04 GMT -5
sosorry sometimes even with a poetic license I get a speeding ticket Pointer: No Hitchiking On Onramp to SuperHyperMIndWay No-you, no-I That can be said to be annihilation conceptual beliefs seen through awakened from No-self, no-other self-reference = other-reference zippo zappo zippity doo da day maxdprophet, okay, got it, I think. Thanks Sorry for that! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 9:21:48 GMT -5
Direct communication? From who? What? You mean like aliens? God? I think that only has "equal validity" in your mind. Edit: LOL.. Keep trying.. either you're really as clueless as you pretend to be, or you're so fearful of openness that you will appeal to blatant fantasy in service to your fear.. Just in case you really are that clueless, 'direct communication' happens across all frequencies of energy, but.. if the observer isn't aware of some frequencies, as you try to pretend you're not, they might assign that information to 'Gods and aliens', like you did.. Okay that explains it. Just more myopic scientists. |
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Post by laughter on Feb 24, 2015 9:39:30 GMT -5
Keep trying.. either you're really as clueless as you pretend to be, or you're so fearful of openness that you will appeal to blatant fantasy in service to your fear.. Just in case you really are that clueless, 'direct communication' happens across all frequencies of energy, but.. if the observer isn't aware of some frequencies, as you try to pretend you're not, they might assign that information to 'Gods and aliens', like you did.. Okay that explains it. Just more myopic scientists. Appeals to commonsense and calls for a still mind in the context of a Newtonian world view stuck in the 19th century, beliefs about a 6th sense, CC awareness in deep dreamless sleep and a multi-frequency wireless internet of woodland faerie carrier pigeons are actually pretty d@mned funny.  |
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Post by Portto on Feb 24, 2015 10:45:11 GMT -5
There is no testosterone and there is no Tzu and there is no ZD  Hi Portto, yeah, if there is no individual I, and therefore there is no another, all desire to think about another is absent. Yep, the world is a lot more interesting and a lot less scary if we don't create the individual! |
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Post by Portto on Feb 24, 2015 10:49:54 GMT -5
A very recent scientific article in a famous journal shows that conscious thought (= non-still mind) is not needed even for complex (math) tasks. Someone with a still mind (no self-referential conscious thought) can accomplish most tasks currently believed to require conscious thinking. The article brings additional "experimental proof" that free will is a concept. www.pnas.org/content/109/48/19614.abstractMucho interesting. Here's another famous scientific article, cited by thousands other studies, and dealing with "automated will:" The Automated Will: Nonconscious Activation and Pursuit of Behavioral Goals www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3005626/It starts with a famous quote: |
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Post by Portto on Feb 24, 2015 10:51:44 GMT -5
There is no testosterone and there is no Tzu and there is no ZD To who do you speak, and why?.. your actions speak clearer than your words.. I speak to the bird in the mirror!  |
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Post by Portto on Feb 24, 2015 10:53:20 GMT -5
Note: the little wink Portto's statement end annihilates the annihilation. Simultaneously, one eye open, one eye closed. Depth perception,
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Post by enigma on Feb 24, 2015 10:53:46 GMT -5
That's what I mean by spitting. You invent giraffes so that you can make others wrong, and by contrast make yourself right. I didn't purposely misrepresent and twist anything. I really thought you were correcting my gender designation. If I recall, you referred to that teacher as your "best" teacher. Given that, it didn't seem so out of line to use the word 'favorite'. I don't really know why I'm explaining myself to you, you'll just spit back at me, cuz that's what you do. It's hateful. Now you begin the 'hateful' painting, quite the artist.. No, i didn't describe Mikio as my "best" teacher, but it suited your agenda to claim so.. he was 'one of the best' considering his ability for non-verbal conveyance of understanding, he was a 'part of the whole'.. By your beliefs, the so-called 'spitting' would be causeless, and as such unable to be 'hateful', but.. again, your actions speak clearer than your words and the illusions you try to spin.. So he was one of your best teachers instead of your best teacher, or your favorite teacher? What difference does it make in this discussion beyond the opportunity for you to spit at me again and accuse me of spinning illusions and furthering agendas? Just because you are not the cause does not mean you are not being hateful. What it does mean is that you are not to blame. |
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Post by Portto on Feb 24, 2015 10:54:28 GMT -5
LOL.. not very interesting, the experiments exclude input not measured or considered but which have equal validity as potential causes for the same results, i.e.: direct communication, enforcing the bias, at frequencies beyond the experiment's capacity or design.. Your go-to reasons for dismissing scientific experimentation are unconvincing. What do you mean by 'direct communication'? What 'frequencies' are you referring to? And there's no need to get all defensive just because Portto mused about the implications regarding free will. There actually was no mention of free will in the article. And remember, you are free to simultaneously find something interesting while also being skeptical of it, just FYI. Portto brought this up because of the still mind discussion, which is very interesting, IMO. How might a scientist define still mind, for example? What is measurable in that state? One could argue, for example, that free will is a process that is either conscious or unconscious. If abstract logical computation can happen unconsciously, why not decisions involving 'free will'? Yes, good questions. I just posted above a link to an article showing that much of our 'will' is automated. |
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Post by enigma on Feb 24, 2015 10:57:34 GMT -5
Direct communication? From who? What? You mean like aliens? God? I think that only has "equal validity" in your mind. Edit: LOL.. Keep trying.. either you're really as clueless as you pretend to be, or you're so fearful of openness that you will appeal to blatant fantasy in service to your fear.. Just in case you really are that clueless, 'direct communication' happens across all frequencies of energy, but.. if the observer isn't aware of some frequencies, as you try to pretend you're not, they might assign that information to 'Gods and aliens', like you did.. So direct communication across all frequencies of energy is common scientific knowledge that the researchers should have taken into account? Maybe they were clueless about your fantasies too. |
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