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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 15:36:40 GMT -5
There is no testosterone and there is no Tzu and there is no ZD  Hi Portto, yeah, if there is no individual I, and therefore there is no another, all desire to think about another is absent. Note: the little wink Portto's statement end annihilates the annihilation. Simultaneously, one eye open, one eye closed. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 15:51:34 GMT -5
So your teacher was a woman? And you saw that as another opportunity to spit at me? Seriously? I think you have reached a wrong conclusion........I don't know how you think you got there.......... Life is the name of a well known female teacher. You didn't know that?? Sri Sri Life Abi Daba Lao Tsu -- Life for short. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 16:23:00 GMT -5
Hi Portto, yeah, if there is no individual I, and therefore there is no another, all desire to think about another is absent. Note: the little wink Portto's statement end annihilates the annihilation. Simultaneously, one eye open, one eye closed. Hi maxdprophet, sorry I don't know what you mean by annihilates the annihilation? Something was being annihilated? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 16:51:07 GMT -5
Note: the little wink Portto's statement end annihilates the annihilation. Simultaneously, one eye open, one eye closed. Hi maxdprophet, sorry I don't know what you mean by annihilates the annihilation? Something was being annihilated? sosorry sometimes even with a poetic license I get a speeding ticket Pointer: No Hitchiking On Onramp to SuperHyperMIndWay No-you, no-I That can be said to be annihilation conceptual beliefs seen through awakened from No-self, no-other self-reference = other-reference zippo zappo zippity doo da day |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 17:57:21 GMT -5
Hi maxdprophet, sorry I don't know what you mean by annihilates the annihilation? Something was being annihilated? sosorry sometimes even with a poetic license I get a speeding ticket Pointer: No Hitchiking On Onramp to SuperHyperMIndWay No-you, no-I That can be said to be annihilation conceptual beliefs seen through awakened from No-self, no-other self-reference = other-reference zippo zappo zippity doo da day maxdprophet, okay, got it, I think. Thanks |
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Post by enigma on Feb 23, 2015 20:23:43 GMT -5
How about just for the next 10 seconds? Is that a risk you might be willing to take? Why do you bring in the word risk? The answer is very simple.........it follows the path of least resistance, like water, there is no control....it meanders....... (Oh....I get it.........am I willing to risk being homeless........  ........  )............ ha,.....ha.......... A regular theme that you present is one in which a spiritual idea is characterized as dangerous for the person. That idea is the result of not fully understanding what's being said, but I often detect no real openness to that understanding. |
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Post by tzujanli on Feb 23, 2015 20:29:21 GMT -5
Seems like the folks who profess not to be addled with self-referential, spontaneous thinking, -- Tzu, ZD, GWeber, LJacobsen -- are all old men. HAHA. Maybe it's testosterone production that has stilled? It's menoPAUSE. .... There is no testosterone and there is no Tzu and there is no ZD To who do you speak, and why?.. your actions speak clearer than your words.. |
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Post by enigma on Feb 23, 2015 20:36:28 GMT -5
I've been thinking about this still mind bizniz... What I've taken from a lot of talk about it is that it's a goal to obtain (but I could be wrong). Is a non-still mind seen as a problem? Do you need to move from having a non-still mind to a still mind? Do you have a still mind, or does still mind have a you? I can see how the persuit of a still mind could create a whole lot of gear grinding and frustration... (I know because I've poured years of effort into it!!! heh heh heh  ) Once you've got a still mind can you lose it? A very recent scientific article in a famous journal shows that conscious thought (= non-still mind) is not needed even for complex (math) tasks. Someone with a still mind (no self-referential conscious thought) can accomplish most tasks currently believed to require conscious thinking. The article brings additional "experimental proof" that free will is a concept. www.pnas.org/content/109/48/19614.abstractMucho interesting.  |
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Post by enigma on Feb 23, 2015 20:45:29 GMT -5
So your teacher was a woman? And you saw that as another opportunity to spit at me? Seriously? I think you have reached a wrong conclusion........I don't know how you think you got there.......... I think I got there by noticing he not only bolded the word "he" in my post, but also underlined it for good measure. I further think I concluded that his first ellipsisiod riddled bifurcated response related in some way to that bolding/underlining effort. The remaining portions of my cognitive process should be obvious. |
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Post by tzujanli on Feb 23, 2015 20:46:07 GMT -5
Typical.. you assume more than you know.. the teacher that doesn't speak English, is not my 'favorite' teacher, that would be Life, of which he is but a small part.. so, in asking 'Life' it is confirmed.. So your teacher was a woman? And you saw that as another opportunity to spit at me? Seriously?You pretend not to understand the words that are written, then you presume to challenge someone else's openness? Why do you bring in the word risk? The answer is very simple.........it follows the path of least resistance, like water, there is no control....it meanders....... (Oh....I get it.........am I willing to risk being homeless........ ........ )............ ha,.....ha.......... A regular theme that you present is one in which a spiritual idea is characterized as dangerous for the person. That idea is the result of not fully understanding what's being said, but I often detect no real openness to that understanding. Yes, seriously.. No one's 'spitting' at you.. that's the illusion that you're trying to create with the first quote, along with illusions about other people's 'themes' when they don't agree with your beliefs, in the second quote.. You misrepresent and twist other people's words and messages to create illusions that you are right and they are wrong, and.. you show no openness to anything that doesn't agree with your beliefs, and no willingness to let that go.. |
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Post by enigma on Feb 23, 2015 20:51:43 GMT -5
Yup. It really is useful to become very aware of the quality, or lack thereof, of one's thoughts. In my experience, most folks are shocked.  But they have to be willing to sit down in the electric chair first.  We could also secretly wire up their barcalounger. |
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Post by enigma on Feb 23, 2015 20:55:55 GMT -5
There is no testosterone and there is no Tzu and there is no ZD Hi Portto, yeah, if there is no individual I, and therefore there is no another, all desire to think about another is absent. Well, certainly the desire to think about, contemplate, talk about, defend, enhance, massage and blow dry the self will be all but eliminated, which accounts for about 87.63% of the thinking.  |
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Post by tzujanli on Feb 23, 2015 20:56:57 GMT -5
A very recent scientific article in a famous journal shows that conscious thought (= non-still mind) is not needed even for complex (math) tasks. Someone with a still mind (no self-referential conscious thought) can accomplish most tasks currently believed to require conscious thinking. The article brings additional "experimental proof" that free will is a concept.www.pnas.org/content/109/48/19614.abstractMucho interesting. LOL.. not very interesting, the experiments exclude input not measured or considered but which have equal validity as potential causes for the same results, i.e.: direct communication, enforcing the bias, at frequencies beyond the experiment's capacity or design.. |
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Post by enigma on Feb 23, 2015 20:57:58 GMT -5
Hi Portto, yeah, if there is no individual I, and therefore there is no another, all desire to think about another is absent. Note: the little wink Portto's statement end annihilates the annihilation. Simultaneously, one eye open, one eye closed. Depth perception,
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Post by enigma on Feb 23, 2015 21:00:30 GMT -5
I think you have reached a wrong conclusion........I don't know how you think you got there.......... Life is the name of a well known female teacher. You didn't know that?? Sri Sri Life Abi Daba Lao Tsu -- Life for short. Oh...I might have reached a wrong conclusion. Hehe |
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